(29 Oct 2019, 11:32 am)streetdeckfan I finally got bored enough to actually read the vinyls on the X21, and I noticed it says "Discover Durham... where a towering cathedral and ancient castle stand high above a tight coil of the River Wear above a city of charm and interest"
I'm not usually one to complain about inconsequential things, but I'm fairly certain the Wear does not 'coil' since it's not a 'a spiral shape or a series of circles, each one inside another'
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Perhaps meaning it coils round the cathedral, better than saying it bends
(29 Oct 2019, 11:32 am)streetdeckfan I finally got bored enough to actually read the vinyls on the X21, and I noticed it says "Discover Durham... where a towering cathedral and ancient castle stand high above a tight coil of the River Wear above a city of charm and interest"
I'm not usually one to complain about inconsequential things, but I'm fairly certain the Wear does not 'coil' since it's not a 'a spiral shape or a series of circles, each one inside another'
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Perhaps meaning it coils round the cathedral, better than saying it bends
(29 Oct 2019, 12:07 pm)JP6004I would have used the term meanders, which is what it actually does
Perhaps meaning it coils round the cathedral, better than saying it bends
(29 Oct 2019, 12:07 pm)JP6004I would have used the term meanders, which is what it actually does
Perhaps meaning it coils round the cathedral, better than saying it bends
There's a difference between a piece of marketing and an A level Geography essay, though, not least in terms of audience. I'm pretty sure most readers would know what was meant, even though you'd acquire a lot of red ink if you handed that to a geography teacher...
(29 Oct 2019, 11:32 am)streetdeckfan I finally got bored enough to actually read the vinyls on the X21, and I noticed it says "Discover Durham... where a towering cathedral and ancient castle stand high above a tight coil of the River Wear above a city of charm and interest"
I'm not usually one to complain about inconsequential things, but I'm fairly certain the Wear does not 'coil' since it's not a 'a spiral shape or a series of circles, each one inside another'
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(29 Oct 2019, 11:32 am)streetdeckfan I finally got bored enough to actually read the vinyls on the X21, and I noticed it says "Discover Durham... where a towering cathedral and ancient castle stand high above a tight coil of the River Wear above a city of charm and interest"
I'm not usually one to complain about inconsequential things, but I'm fairly certain the Wear does not 'coil' since it's not a 'a spiral shape or a series of circles, each one inside another'
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You'll all be pleased to know GNE have changed the stops/terminus points on the app to be a bit clearer such as stating which Bus Station the terminus is on some routes, Stanley Bus Station, Durham Bus Station etc and all southbound X21s should now track
(29 Oct 2019, 3:38 pm)Jimmi You'll all be pleased to know GNE have changed the stops/terminus points on the app to be a bit clearer such as stating which Bus Station the terminus is on some routes, Stanley Bus Station, Durham Bus Station etc and all southbound X21s should now trackSeems strange they're fixing all the issues on the old app when the new app is on its way soon. We've gone without southbound X21 tracking for 6 months now, a few more isn't going to make much difference!
(29 Oct 2019, 3:38 pm)Jimmi You'll all be pleased to know GNE have changed the stops/terminus points on the app to be a bit clearer such as stating which Bus Station the terminus is on some routes, Stanley Bus Station, Durham Bus Station etc and all southbound X21s should now trackSeems strange they're fixing all the issues on the old app when the new app is on its way soon. We've gone without southbound X21 tracking for 6 months now, a few more isn't going to make much difference!
(29 Oct 2019, 4:00 pm)streetdeckfan Seems strange they're fixing all the issues on the old app when the new app is on its way soon. We've gone without southbound X21 tracking for 6 months now, a few more isn't going to make much difference!I'll remind you of that when a comment is made about the lack of announcements on the X21.
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(29 Oct 2019, 4:00 pm)streetdeckfan Seems strange they're fixing all the issues on the old app when the new app is on its way soon. We've gone without southbound X21 tracking for 6 months now, a few more isn't going to make much difference!I'll remind you of that when a comment is made about the lack of announcements on the X21.
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(29 Oct 2019, 4:13 pm)Dan I'll remind you of that when a comment is made about the lack of announcements on the X21.I've actually got rather used to not having them now, but since you brought it up...
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(29 Oct 2019, 4:13 pm)Dan I'll remind you of that when a comment is made about the lack of announcements on the X21.I've actually got rather used to not having them now, but since you brought it up...
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(29 Oct 2019, 11:32 am)streetdeckfan I finally got bored enough to actually read the vinyls on the X21, and I noticed it says "Discover Durham... where a towering cathedral and ancient castle stand high above a tight coil of the River Wear above a city of charm and interest"
I'm not usually one to complain about inconsequential things, but I'm fairly certain the Wear does not 'coil' since it's not a 'a spiral shape or a series of circles, each one inside another'
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Oh how your life must be a living hell! It seems GNE disappoints you in many ways, don't like the buses, don't like the livery, don't like this, don't like that. Oh dear!
(29 Oct 2019, 11:32 am)streetdeckfan I finally got bored enough to actually read the vinyls on the X21, and I noticed it says "Discover Durham... where a towering cathedral and ancient castle stand high above a tight coil of the River Wear above a city of charm and interest"
I'm not usually one to complain about inconsequential things, but I'm fairly certain the Wear does not 'coil' since it's not a 'a spiral shape or a series of circles, each one inside another'
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Oh how your life must be a living hell! It seems GNE disappoints you in many ways, don't like the buses, don't like the livery, don't like this, don't like that. Oh dear!
(29 Oct 2019, 4:00 pm)streetdeckfan Seems strange they're fixing all the issues on the old app when the new app is on its way soon. We've gone without southbound X21 tracking for 6 months now, a few more isn't going to make much difference!
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Newcastle bound 26s now track on app, only taken them since the service's inception almost 2 years ago to sort it...
(29 Oct 2019, 4:00 pm)streetdeckfan Seems strange they're fixing all the issues on the old app when the new app is on its way soon. We've gone without southbound X21 tracking for 6 months now, a few more isn't going to make much difference!
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Newcastle bound 26s now track on app, only taken them since the service's inception almost 2 years ago to sort it...
When GNE terminate services at Gateshead Interchange, would a Return ticket be valid between Newcastle and Gateshead? A bit daft terminating services at the wrong place!
(29 Oct 2019, 8:24 pm)gordondack
Oh how your life must be a living hell! It seems GNE disappoints you in many ways, don't like the buses, don't like the livery, don't like this, don't like that. Oh dear!
You're right there, GNE does disappoint me, not because I don't like what they do, but because I know they could do it so much better!
I don't not like the Xlines livery, in fact I do very much like it, I just think it's so generic, if I didn't know anything, I'd think it was just an updated Stagecoach Gold livery! One of the things GNE is known for is that their 'brightly coloured buses are almost as recognisable as the iconic landmarks they visit', but they're not anymore.
To me it seems like a lot of the time they have great ideas, but then execute them so poorly.
Take the recent changes to the under 19 tickets, why didn't they work with colleges to accept student ID as proof of age before the changes rather than wait for all the complaints to come in and only then do something about it?
If they had actually bothered to take notice of the market research they would have known that nobody wants to carry around their passport just to get a reduced fare.
Why did they remove the ability to get young person tickets on The Key? The only reason I can think of is because it means they don't have to pay someone to check people are entitled to the ticket, why hire someone else when a driver could just do it. But the downside of that is it makes it way less convenient for people to travel by bus, buses spend more time stopped because the driver has to check everyone's ID, and people have to rely on GNE's app for monthly tickets, and as I've said many times, GNE's app is about as reliable as that Metrocity EV!
Sorry to bring this up again, but there's the NSAs on the X21. Why weren't the new announcements ready for the launch of the new route? There were already announcements for both the X21 and 18, so they would have only had to record I think 9 new stop names as well as the new route name (and program it all in). This could all have been done well in advance of the launch of the new route, but 6 months later we're still without them!
In all honesty, I don't really care that the NSAs on the X21s aren't working, I know the route so it doesn't affect me in the slightest, but when it's in the timetables and in massive writing on the bus that it's a 'talking bus', passengers will get on board expecting the bus to actually talk.
I'm no legal expert, but to me that is a grade A case of false advertising, and that's why I get so frustrated by it!
(29 Oct 2019, 8:24 pm)gordondack
Oh how your life must be a living hell! It seems GNE disappoints you in many ways, don't like the buses, don't like the livery, don't like this, don't like that. Oh dear!
You're right there, GNE does disappoint me, not because I don't like what they do, but because I know they could do it so much better!
I don't not like the Xlines livery, in fact I do very much like it, I just think it's so generic, if I didn't know anything, I'd think it was just an updated Stagecoach Gold livery! One of the things GNE is known for is that their 'brightly coloured buses are almost as recognisable as the iconic landmarks they visit', but they're not anymore.
To me it seems like a lot of the time they have great ideas, but then execute them so poorly.
Take the recent changes to the under 19 tickets, why didn't they work with colleges to accept student ID as proof of age before the changes rather than wait for all the complaints to come in and only then do something about it?
If they had actually bothered to take notice of the market research they would have known that nobody wants to carry around their passport just to get a reduced fare.
Why did they remove the ability to get young person tickets on The Key? The only reason I can think of is because it means they don't have to pay someone to check people are entitled to the ticket, why hire someone else when a driver could just do it. But the downside of that is it makes it way less convenient for people to travel by bus, buses spend more time stopped because the driver has to check everyone's ID, and people have to rely on GNE's app for monthly tickets, and as I've said many times, GNE's app is about as reliable as that Metrocity EV!
Sorry to bring this up again, but there's the NSAs on the X21. Why weren't the new announcements ready for the launch of the new route? There were already announcements for both the X21 and 18, so they would have only had to record I think 9 new stop names as well as the new route name (and program it all in). This could all have been done well in advance of the launch of the new route, but 6 months later we're still without them!
In all honesty, I don't really care that the NSAs on the X21s aren't working, I know the route so it doesn't affect me in the slightest, but when it's in the timetables and in massive writing on the bus that it's a 'talking bus', passengers will get on board expecting the bus to actually talk.
I'm no legal expert, but to me that is a grade A case of false advertising, and that's why I get so frustrated by it!
(29 Oct 2019, 9:21 pm)OrangeArrow49 When GNE terminate services at Gateshead Interchange, would a Return ticket be valid between Newcastle and Gateshead? A bit daft terminating services at the wrong place!
If you mean terminating early so the bus can turn around to make time. You’d just tell a driver of another bus in Gateshead that you’ve been kicked off and told to get on this one.
(29 Oct 2019, 9:21 pm)OrangeArrow49 When GNE terminate services at Gateshead Interchange, would a Return ticket be valid between Newcastle and Gateshead? A bit daft terminating services at the wrong place!
If you mean terminating early so the bus can turn around to make time. You’d just tell a driver of another bus in Gateshead that you’ve been kicked off and told to get on this one.
(29 Oct 2019, 9:45 pm)deanmachine
If you mean terminating early so the bus can turn around to make time. You’d just tell a driver of another bus in Gateshead that you’ve been kicked off and told to get on this one.
When there are delays, sometimes GNE post on Twitter for passengers to get a bus to Gateshead Interchanges then change buses, or passengers in Gateshead change buses towards Newcastle. I wasn't sure if a Return would be valid (I get a day ticker anyway, but just wanted to find out the answer!).
(29 Oct 2019, 9:45 pm)deanmachine
If you mean terminating early so the bus can turn around to make time. You’d just tell a driver of another bus in Gateshead that you’ve been kicked off and told to get on this one.
When there are delays, sometimes GNE post on Twitter for passengers to get a bus to Gateshead Interchanges then change buses, or passengers in Gateshead change buses towards Newcastle. I wasn't sure if a Return would be valid (I get a day ticker anyway, but just wanted to find out the answer!).
(29 Oct 2019, 9:43 pm)streetdeckfan
You're right there, GNE does disappoint me, not because I don't like what they do, but because I know they could do it so much better!
I don't not like the Xlines livery, in fact I do very much like it, I just think it's so generic, if I didn't know anything, I'd think it was just an updated Stagecoach Gold livery! One of the things GNE is known for is that their 'brightly coloured buses are almost as recognisable as the iconic landmarks they visit', but they're not anymore.
To me it seems like a lot of the time they have great ideas, but then execute them so poorly.
Take the recent changes to the under 19 tickets, why didn't they work with colleges to accept student ID as proof of age before the changes rather than wait for all the complaints to come in and only then do something about it?
If they had actually bothered to take notice of the market research they would have known that nobody wants to carry around their passport just to get a reduced fare.
Why did they remove the ability to get young person tickets on The Key? The only reason I can think of is because it means they don't have to pay someone to check people are entitled to the ticket, why hire someone else when a driver could just do it. But the downside of that is it makes it way less convenient for people to travel by bus, buses spend more time stopped because the driver has to check everyone's ID, and people have to rely on GNE's app for monthly tickets, and as I've said many times, GNE's app is about as reliable as that Metrocity EV!
Sorry to bring this up again, but there's the NSAs on the X21. Why weren't the new announcements ready for the launch of the new route? There were already announcements for both the X21 and 18, so they would have only had to record I think 9 new stop names as well as the new route name (and program it all in). This could all have been done well in advance of the launch of the new route, but 6 months later we're still without them!
In all honesty, I don't really care that the NSAs on the X21s aren't working, I know the route so it doesn't affect me in the slightest, but when it's in the timetables and in massive writing on the bus that it's a 'talking bus', passengers will get on board expecting the bus to actually talk.
I'm no legal expert, but to me that is a grade A case of false advertising, and that's why I get so frustrated by it!
Instead of complaining about GNE, why not complain about Arriva who also operate in Bishop Auckland (where you say you travel from) and quite clearly offer a worse service in terms of investment & punctuality...
Also take your complaints to HQ instead of complain on here
(29 Oct 2019, 9:43 pm)streetdeckfan
You're right there, GNE does disappoint me, not because I don't like what they do, but because I know they could do it so much better!
I don't not like the Xlines livery, in fact I do very much like it, I just think it's so generic, if I didn't know anything, I'd think it was just an updated Stagecoach Gold livery! One of the things GNE is known for is that their 'brightly coloured buses are almost as recognisable as the iconic landmarks they visit', but they're not anymore.
To me it seems like a lot of the time they have great ideas, but then execute them so poorly.
Take the recent changes to the under 19 tickets, why didn't they work with colleges to accept student ID as proof of age before the changes rather than wait for all the complaints to come in and only then do something about it?
If they had actually bothered to take notice of the market research they would have known that nobody wants to carry around their passport just to get a reduced fare.
Why did they remove the ability to get young person tickets on The Key? The only reason I can think of is because it means they don't have to pay someone to check people are entitled to the ticket, why hire someone else when a driver could just do it. But the downside of that is it makes it way less convenient for people to travel by bus, buses spend more time stopped because the driver has to check everyone's ID, and people have to rely on GNE's app for monthly tickets, and as I've said many times, GNE's app is about as reliable as that Metrocity EV!
Sorry to bring this up again, but there's the NSAs on the X21. Why weren't the new announcements ready for the launch of the new route? There were already announcements for both the X21 and 18, so they would have only had to record I think 9 new stop names as well as the new route name (and program it all in). This could all have been done well in advance of the launch of the new route, but 6 months later we're still without them!
In all honesty, I don't really care that the NSAs on the X21s aren't working, I know the route so it doesn't affect me in the slightest, but when it's in the timetables and in massive writing on the bus that it's a 'talking bus', passengers will get on board expecting the bus to actually talk.
I'm no legal expert, but to me that is a grade A case of false advertising, and that's why I get so frustrated by it!
Instead of complaining about GNE, why not complain about Arriva who also operate in Bishop Auckland (where you say you travel from) and quite clearly offer a worse service in terms of investment & punctuality...
Also take your complaints to HQ instead of complain on here
(29 Oct 2019, 10:01 pm)S830OFT
Instead of complaining about GNE, why not complain about Arriva who also operate in Bishop Auckland (where you say you travel from) and quite clearly offer a worse service in terms of investment & punctuality...
Also take your complaints to HQ instead of complain on here
I do complain a lot about Arriva, in fact I think I probably complain the same amount, if not more, about Arriva as I do GNE. This isn't the first time I have brought up any of these (usually there is some context), I just happened to condense a few of my complaints into one post to demonstrate the point I was trying to make.
It's not that they are making bad decisions,
I just think that if GNE put more effort into planning then everything they do would turn out much better. It seems to me like they are launching things before they're ready, or even fully thought through! The reason my complaints sound so petty is because quite honestly GNE don't really do that much to annoy me, but the things they do wrong are things that could have so easily been avoided!
(29 Oct 2019, 10:01 pm)S830OFT
Instead of complaining about GNE, why not complain about Arriva who also operate in Bishop Auckland (where you say you travel from) and quite clearly offer a worse service in terms of investment & punctuality...
Also take your complaints to HQ instead of complain on here
I do complain a lot about Arriva, in fact I think I probably complain the same amount, if not more, about Arriva as I do GNE. This isn't the first time I have brought up any of these (usually there is some context), I just happened to condense a few of my complaints into one post to demonstrate the point I was trying to make.
It's not that they are making bad decisions,
I just think that if GNE put more effort into planning then everything they do would turn out much better. It seems to me like they are launching things before they're ready, or even fully thought through! The reason my complaints sound so petty is because quite honestly GNE don't really do that much to annoy me, but the things they do wrong are things that could have so easily been avoided!
(29 Oct 2019, 9:45 pm)deanmachineI think the issue is occasions like last week when 56s were terminating in gateshead and passengers needed to catch a different service in Newcastle to find their 56 home, in gateshead.
If you mean terminating early so the bus can turn around to make time. You’d just tell a driver of another bus in Gateshead that you’ve been kicked off and told to get on this one.
(29 Oct 2019, 10:30 pm)streetdeckfan
I do complain a lot about Arriva, in fact I think I probably complain the same amount, if not more, about Arriva as I do GNE. This isn't the first time I have brought up any of these (usually there is some context), I just happened to condense a few of my complaints into one post to demonstrate the point I was trying to make.
It's not that they are making bad decisions,
I just think that if GNE put more effort into planning then everything they do would turn out much better. It seems to me like they are launching things before they're ready, or even fully thought through! The reason my complaints sound so petty is because quite honestly GNE don't really do that much to annoy me, but the things they do wrong are things that could have so easily been avoided!
GNE did not plan for wrightbus to go belly up.
(29 Oct 2019, 9:45 pm)deanmachineI think the issue is occasions like last week when 56s were terminating in gateshead and passengers needed to catch a different service in Newcastle to find their 56 home, in gateshead.
If you mean terminating early so the bus can turn around to make time. You’d just tell a driver of another bus in Gateshead that you’ve been kicked off and told to get on this one.
(29 Oct 2019, 10:30 pm)streetdeckfan
I do complain a lot about Arriva, in fact I think I probably complain the same amount, if not more, about Arriva as I do GNE. This isn't the first time I have brought up any of these (usually there is some context), I just happened to condense a few of my complaints into one post to demonstrate the point I was trying to make.
It's not that they are making bad decisions,
I just think that if GNE put more effort into planning then everything they do would turn out much better. It seems to me like they are launching things before they're ready, or even fully thought through! The reason my complaints sound so petty is because quite honestly GNE don't really do that much to annoy me, but the things they do wrong are things that could have so easily been avoided!
GNE did not plan for wrightbus to go belly up.
(29 Oct 2019, 9:52 pm)OrangeArrow49
When there are delays, sometimes GNE post on Twitter for passengers to get a bus to Gateshead Interchanges then change buses, or passengers in Gateshead change buses towards Newcastle. I wasn't sure if a Return would be valid (I get a day ticker anyway, but just wanted to find out the answer!).
(29 Oct 2019, 9:52 pm)OrangeArrow49
When there are delays, sometimes GNE post on Twitter for passengers to get a bus to Gateshead Interchanges then change buses, or passengers in Gateshead change buses towards Newcastle. I wasn't sure if a Return would be valid (I get a day ticker anyway, but just wanted to find out the answer!).
Do we know when the E400s will be in service yet?
I'm just itching to find out if they're any better than Arriva's (which honestly isn't that difficult). And I also can't wait to forget about the low ceiling upstairs and knock myself out on the top step like I do every time I get on one!
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