(28 Nov 2019, 11:08 pm)Malarkey Absolute joke that the 309 is not running on boxing day, how do Go North East expect those such as myself to get to work on the Cobalt with no buses running.
Guess i'll have to walk from the Jolly Bowman into work which is just shy of a half hour walk according to Google Maps.
(28 Nov 2019, 11:08 pm)Malarkey Absolute joke that the 309 is not running on boxing day, how do Go North East expect those such as myself to get to work on the Cobalt with no buses running.
Guess i'll have to walk from the Jolly Bowman into work which is just shy of a half hour walk according to Google Maps.
(28 Nov 2019, 11:08 pm)Malarkey Absolute joke that the 309 is not running on boxing day, how do Go North East expect those such as myself to get to work on the Cobalt with no buses running.Prehaps because the drivers actually have families and actually want to spend time with them over Christmas. Anyway arriva usually have the 308 & 306 running on boxing day
Guess i'll have to walk from the Jolly Bowman into work which is just shy of a half hour walk according to Google Maps.
(28 Nov 2019, 11:08 pm)Malarkey Absolute joke that the 309 is not running on boxing day, how do Go North East expect those such as myself to get to work on the Cobalt with no buses running.Prehaps because the drivers actually have families and actually want to spend time with them over Christmas. Anyway arriva usually have the 308 & 306 running on boxing day
Guess i'll have to walk from the Jolly Bowman into work which is just shy of a half hour walk according to Google Maps.
(29 Nov 2019, 7:13 am)GNE6312 Prehaps because the drivers actually have families and actually want to spend time with them over Christmas. Anyway arriva usually have the 308 & 306 running on boxing dayWhy would anybody want to do that?!
(29 Nov 2019, 7:13 am)GNE6312 Prehaps because the drivers actually have families and actually want to spend time with them over Christmas. Anyway arriva usually have the 308 & 306 running on boxing dayWhy would anybody want to do that?!
(29 Nov 2019, 10:04 am)streetdeckfan Why would anybody want to do that?!
Plus, there's no reason why boxing day shouldn't be just treated like any other bank holiday, I know a lot of people who want to work boxing day, either because of the bonus or to get away from the family!
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(29 Nov 2019, 10:04 am)streetdeckfan Why would anybody want to do that?!
Plus, there's no reason why boxing day shouldn't be just treated like any other bank holiday, I know a lot of people who want to work boxing day, either because of the bonus or to get away from the family!
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(29 Nov 2019, 12:04 pm)omnicity4659 I certainly wouldn't work Boxing Day... and I have bigger things than buses to work with!
I believe that Boxing Day is still a voluntary thing, and nobody is hauled into work against their will, so GNE can only work with how many drivers are willing to work. And going off the service level, I think that should answer your question as to who wants to spend time off work...!
(29 Nov 2019, 12:04 pm)omnicity4659 I certainly wouldn't work Boxing Day... and I have bigger things than buses to work with!
I believe that Boxing Day is still a voluntary thing, and nobody is hauled into work against their will, so GNE can only work with how many drivers are willing to work. And going off the service level, I think that should answer your question as to who wants to spend time off work...!
(29 Nov 2019, 1:48 pm)Andreos1 Isn't it time that drivers started to be viewed along the lines of retail staff and other members of the service sector?
Not meaning to be derogatory to any sector, but the difference between a person on a till in a shop or a bar and a person on a ticketer in a bus, can essentially be split down in to one difference and that is one is driving a vehicle.
The long gone ambassador/Gtom said (and I agree), is that a driver is working within the service industry. I agree.
Other members of the service sector (bar staff, retail etc) are working. Why not bus drivers?
(29 Nov 2019, 1:48 pm)Andreos1 Isn't it time that drivers started to be viewed along the lines of retail staff and other members of the service sector?
Not meaning to be derogatory to any sector, but the difference between a person on a till in a shop or a bar and a person on a ticketer in a bus, can essentially be split down in to one difference and that is one is driving a vehicle.
The long gone ambassador/Gtom said (and I agree), is that a driver is working within the service industry. I agree.
Other members of the service sector (bar staff, retail etc) are working. Why not bus drivers?
(29 Nov 2019, 1:55 pm)streetdeckfan That's something we can both agree on.You are taking the p**s, maybe you should get yourself a licence and try driving a bus then come back with stupid comments if you believe in what you write. Never heard so much rubbish in your recent posts.
Bus drivers aren't special, if anything they should have less of a right to a day off because without them other people who rely on the bus can't get to work, see family, get food from the shops
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(29 Nov 2019, 1:55 pm)streetdeckfan That's something we can both agree on.You are taking the p**s, maybe you should get yourself a licence and try driving a bus then come back with stupid comments if you believe in what you write. Never heard so much rubbish in your recent posts.
Bus drivers aren't special, if anything they should have less of a right to a day off because without them other people who rely on the bus can't get to work, see family, get food from the shops
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(29 Nov 2019, 7:13 am)GNE6312 Prehaps because the drivers actually have families and actually want to spend time with them over Christmas. Anyway arriva usually have the 308 & 306 running on boxing dayThe 306 hasn't operated on Boxing Day for several years. Up to last year from the Coast there were the 308, 309 and 310.
(29 Nov 2019, 7:13 am)GNE6312 Prehaps because the drivers actually have families and actually want to spend time with them over Christmas. Anyway arriva usually have the 308 & 306 running on boxing dayThe 306 hasn't operated on Boxing Day for several years. Up to last year from the Coast there were the 308, 309 and 310.
(29 Nov 2019, 2:27 pm)Stanleyone You are taking the p**s, maybe you should get yourself a licence and try driving a bus then come back with stupid comments if you believe in what you write. Never heard so much rubbish in your recent posts.I stand by my comment. In my eyes, a bus driver is no different from a cashier in a supermarket, except instead of scanning items, you drive a bus.
(29 Nov 2019, 2:27 pm)Stanleyone You are taking the p**s, maybe you should get yourself a licence and try driving a bus then come back with stupid comments if you believe in what you write. Never heard so much rubbish in your recent posts.I stand by my comment. In my eyes, a bus driver is no different from a cashier in a supermarket, except instead of scanning items, you drive a bus.
(29 Nov 2019, 3:53 pm)streetdeckfan I stand by my comment. In my eyes, a bus driver is no different from a cashier in a supermarket, except instead of scanning items, you drive a bus.You clearly have no idea what driving a bus involves and how much training goes into becoming a bus driver, so please do not bunch us as unskilled, it is rather insulting. Please do enlighten the group exactly what it is you do.
Both are relatively unskilled jobs (in that anyone could do the job with a bit of training, you don't need to be highly qualified), both earn around the same, both require good people skills, both 'sit around' all day, and people rely on both to 'survive'.
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(29 Nov 2019, 3:53 pm)streetdeckfan I stand by my comment. In my eyes, a bus driver is no different from a cashier in a supermarket, except instead of scanning items, you drive a bus.You clearly have no idea what driving a bus involves and how much training goes into becoming a bus driver, so please do not bunch us as unskilled, it is rather insulting. Please do enlighten the group exactly what it is you do.
Both are relatively unskilled jobs (in that anyone could do the job with a bit of training, you don't need to be highly qualified), both earn around the same, both require good people skills, both 'sit around' all day, and people rely on both to 'survive'.
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(29 Nov 2019, 3:53 pm)streetdeckfan I stand by my comment. In my eyes, a bus driver is no different from a cashier in a supermarket, except instead of scanning items, you drive a bus.
Both are relatively unskilled jobs (in that anyone could do the job with a bit of training, you don't need to be highly qualified), both earn around the same, both require good people skills, both 'sit around' all day, and people rely on both to 'survive'.
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(29 Nov 2019, 3:53 pm)streetdeckfan I stand by my comment. In my eyes, a bus driver is no different from a cashier in a supermarket, except instead of scanning items, you drive a bus.
Both are relatively unskilled jobs (in that anyone could do the job with a bit of training, you don't need to be highly qualified), both earn around the same, both require good people skills, both 'sit around' all day, and people rely on both to 'survive'.
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Maybe train drivers and metro drivers should have their salaries reduced to match that of unskilled bus drivers too, after all, they don't even have to steer and avoid idiots on roads like bus drivers do.
I have in the past been a company director of some major blue chip companies in my earlier career and I can assure you there is nothing simple or unskilled in driving a bus. I have driven buses for the last 10 years having decided one redundancy too many had occurred.
This forum just astounds me at times with some of the comments made. As said, instead of moaning, try it yourself before demeaning the role.
(29 Nov 2019, 4:44 pm)Michael What about other jobs then?, are all of them the same?, because i work in education, its not a easy job, trust me!
You clearly have no idea what happens in the real world, do you work?
(29 Nov 2019, 4:44 pm)Michael What about other jobs then?, are all of them the same?, because i work in education, its not a easy job, trust me!
You clearly have no idea what happens in the real world, do you work?
(29 Nov 2019, 4:44 pm)Michael What about other jobs then?, are all of them the same?, because i work in education, its not a easy job, trust me!
You clearly have no idea what happens in the real world, do you work?
(29 Nov 2019, 4:44 pm)Michael What about other jobs then?, are all of them the same?, because i work in education, its not a easy job, trust me!
You clearly have no idea what happens in the real world, do you work?
(29 Nov 2019, 5:12 pm)streetdeckfan And to work in education you need to be highly qualified, you need to spend years in University getting a degree in your relevant field.Some teachers have gone via the pgce route (if memory serves, Michael correct me if I’m wrong ) 1 years classroom work as opposed to the 4 years of university. Both routes lead to the same outcome, trainee bus drivers take 7 weeks training and 1 years continuous mentoring, so in theory it takes 7 weeks longer to be totally alone as a bus driver than a pgce trained teacher.
To work as a bus driver, you need to be able to drive a bus.
How long on average does it take from applying for the job to driving a bus with passengers, assuming no previous experience other than having a driving license? (Genuine question)
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(29 Nov 2019, 5:12 pm)streetdeckfan And to work in education you need to be highly qualified, you need to spend years in University getting a degree in your relevant field.Some teachers have gone via the pgce route (if memory serves, Michael correct me if I’m wrong ) 1 years classroom work as opposed to the 4 years of university. Both routes lead to the same outcome, trainee bus drivers take 7 weeks training and 1 years continuous mentoring, so in theory it takes 7 weeks longer to be totally alone as a bus driver than a pgce trained teacher.
To work as a bus driver, you need to be able to drive a bus.
How long on average does it take from applying for the job to driving a bus with passengers, assuming no previous experience other than having a driving license? (Genuine question)
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(29 Nov 2019, 5:21 pm)Stanleyone Some teachers have gone via the pgce route (if memory serves, Michael correct me if I’m wrong ) 1 years classroom work as opposed to the 4 years of university. Both routes lead to the same outcome, trainee bus drivers take 7 weeks training and 1 years continuous mentoring, so in theory it takes 7 weeks longer to be totally alone as a bus driver than a pgce trained teacher.
(29 Nov 2019, 5:21 pm)Stanleyone Some teachers have gone via the pgce route (if memory serves, Michael correct me if I’m wrong ) 1 years classroom work as opposed to the 4 years of university. Both routes lead to the same outcome, trainee bus drivers take 7 weeks training and 1 years continuous mentoring, so in theory it takes 7 weeks longer to be totally alone as a bus driver than a pgce trained teacher.
(29 Nov 2019, 5:21 pm)Stanleyone Some teachers have gone via the pgce route (if memory serves, Michael correct me if I’m wrong ) 1 years classroom work as opposed to the 4 years of university. Both routes lead to the same outcome, trainee bus drivers take 7 weeks training and 1 years continuous mentoring, so in theory it takes 7 weeks longer to be totally alone as a bus driver than a pgce trained teacher.
(29 Nov 2019, 5:27 pm)Michael I know a few people who have gone the PGCE way, but i'm not entirely sure what it entitles, sure it changed September this year! (like most things do!)That's quite interesting, I have a few friends who went into teaching and they all went the university way.
(29 Nov 2019, 5:21 pm)Stanleyone Some teachers have gone via the pgce route (if memory serves, Michael correct me if I’m wrong ) 1 years classroom work as opposed to the 4 years of university. Both routes lead to the same outcome, trainee bus drivers take 7 weeks training and 1 years continuous mentoring, so in theory it takes 7 weeks longer to be totally alone as a bus driver than a pgce trained teacher.
(29 Nov 2019, 5:27 pm)Michael I know a few people who have gone the PGCE way, but i'm not entirely sure what it entitles, sure it changed September this year! (like most things do!)That's quite interesting, I have a few friends who went into teaching and they all went the university way.
It's not just training, there is also the responsibility for controlling a large vehicle and keeping the passengers safe.
I'm sure you are just on here to troll sometimes Streetdeckfan. You haven't even answered the question of what someone posted to you about what do you do for a job.
(29 Nov 2019, 6:03 pm)Rapidsnap It's not just training, there is also the responsibility for controlling a large vehicle and keeping the passengers safe.
I'm sure you are just on here to troll sometimes Streetdeckfan. You haven't even answered the question of what someone posted to you about what do you do for a job.
(29 Nov 2019, 6:03 pm)Rapidsnap It's not just training, there is also the responsibility for controlling a large vehicle and keeping the passengers safe.
I'm sure you are just on here to troll sometimes Streetdeckfan. You haven't even answered the question of what someone posted to you about what do you do for a job.
(29 Nov 2019, 5:21 pm)Stanleyone Some teachers have gone via the pgce route (if memory serves, Michael correct me if I’m wrong ) 1 years classroom work as opposed to the 4 years of university. Both routes lead to the same outcome, trainee bus drivers take 7 weeks training and 1 years continuous mentoring, so in theory it takes 7 weeks longer to be totally alone as a bus driver than a pgce trained teacher.Drivers tend to spend around 4 weeks with their mentor, not a year??
(29 Nov 2019, 5:21 pm)Stanleyone Some teachers have gone via the pgce route (if memory serves, Michael correct me if I’m wrong ) 1 years classroom work as opposed to the 4 years of university. Both routes lead to the same outcome, trainee bus drivers take 7 weeks training and 1 years continuous mentoring, so in theory it takes 7 weeks longer to be totally alone as a bus driver than a pgce trained teacher.Drivers tend to spend around 4 weeks with their mentor, not a year??
