Just seen in the background of a photo on another group that Streetlite 5373 is at Cummins Engines in Leeds for engine repairs.
(15 Nov 2019, 4:18 pm)big mac When GNE post on Facebook that a service isn't operating due to "operational issues" what does that actually mean?
It's a vehicle either broken down or so severely delayed that it can't make it to the right place at the right time. If it's the message about the 50, one passed me, on the way into Durham, at 16:05, either 5 minutes early or 25 minutes late. i saw the tweet about the 15:57 not running, so I'm guessing 25 minutes late.
This time yesterday, GNE were terminating services at County hall and running shuttles to the bus station so they could turn around again without being too badly delayed.
(15 Nov 2019, 4:18 pm)big mac When GNE post on Facebook that a service isn't operating due to "operational issues" what does that actually mean?
It's a vehicle either broken down or so severely delayed that it can't make it to the right place at the right time. If it's the message about the 50, one passed me, on the way into Durham, at 16:05, either 5 minutes early or 25 minutes late. i saw the tweet about the 15:57 not running, so I'm guessing 25 minutes late.
This time yesterday, GNE were terminating services at County hall and running shuttles to the bus station so they could turn around again without being too badly delayed.
With 5230/32 now at Deptford and on the 56, have some of the B9s left for refurbishment?
With 5230/32 now at Deptford and on the 56, have some of the B9s left for refurbishment?
(15 Nov 2019, 4:47 pm)pbjd
Nope, they have moved to release buses for Lumiere, and no doubt released buses for the 585.
Thanks, it didn't cross my mind it they have been for the Lumiere event
(15 Nov 2019, 4:47 pm)pbjd
Nope, they have moved to release buses for Lumiere, and no doubt released buses for the 585.
Thanks, it didn't cross my mind it they have been for the Lumiere event
(15 Nov 2019, 4:43 pm)BusLoverMum
It's a vehicle either broken down or so severely delayed that it can't make it to the right place at the right time. If it's the message about the 50, one passed me, on the way into Durham, at 16:05, either 5 minutes early or 25 minutes late. i saw the tweet about the 15:57 not running, so I'm guessing 25 minutes late.
This time yesterday, GNE were terminating services at County hall and running shuttles to the bus station so they could turn around again without being too badly delayed.
It was the post about the 50 that made me think of it although I've seen them post that phrase before. What confused me was the fact that I'd it was a breakdown, they usually say "due to a breakdown" or if it's a delay they say something like "due to delays on the inbound journey", which is why I thought operational issues would be neither of those things?
(15 Nov 2019, 4:43 pm)BusLoverMum
It's a vehicle either broken down or so severely delayed that it can't make it to the right place at the right time. If it's the message about the 50, one passed me, on the way into Durham, at 16:05, either 5 minutes early or 25 minutes late. i saw the tweet about the 15:57 not running, so I'm guessing 25 minutes late.
This time yesterday, GNE were terminating services at County hall and running shuttles to the bus station so they could turn around again without being too badly delayed.
It was the post about the 50 that made me think of it although I've seen them post that phrase before. What confused me was the fact that I'd it was a breakdown, they usually say "due to a breakdown" or if it's a delay they say something like "due to delays on the inbound journey", which is why I thought operational issues would be neither of those things?
(15 Nov 2019, 6:20 pm)big macIt could also just depend on who's writing the post.
It was the post about the 50 that made me think of it although I've seen them post that phrase before. What confused me was the fact that I'd it was a breakdown, they usually say "due to a breakdown" or if it's a delay they say something like "due to delays on the inbound journey", which is why I thought operational issues would be neither of those things?
(15 Nov 2019, 6:20 pm)big macIt could also just depend on who's writing the post.
It was the post about the 50 that made me think of it although I've seen them post that phrase before. What confused me was the fact that I'd it was a breakdown, they usually say "due to a breakdown" or if it's a delay they say something like "due to delays on the inbound journey", which is why I thought operational issues would be neither of those things?
(15 Nov 2019, 6:20 pm)big mac
It was the post about the 50 that made me think of it although I've seen them post that phrase before. What confused me was the fact that I'd it was a breakdown, they usually say "due to a breakdown" or if it's a delay they say something like "due to delays on the inbound journey", which is why I thought operational issues would be neither of those things?
My own thoughts are that it's an easy cop out for them.
It could mean many things, but experience/cynicism gives me the impression that the vagueness of it indicates that its something to do with maintenance or a rota issue.
Looks easier on the eye than something along the lines of a 'breakdown' or 'lack of available drivers'.
(15 Nov 2019, 6:20 pm)big mac
It was the post about the 50 that made me think of it although I've seen them post that phrase before. What confused me was the fact that I'd it was a breakdown, they usually say "due to a breakdown" or if it's a delay they say something like "due to delays on the inbound journey", which is why I thought operational issues would be neither of those things?
My own thoughts are that it's an easy cop out for them.
It could mean many things, but experience/cynicism gives me the impression that the vagueness of it indicates that its something to do with maintenance or a rota issue.
Looks easier on the eye than something along the lines of a 'breakdown' or 'lack of available drivers'.
(15 Nov 2019, 8:50 pm)Andreos1 My own thoughts are that it's an easy cop out for them. It could mean many things, but experience/cynicism gives me the impression that the vagueness of it indicates that its something to do with maintenance or a rota issue. Looks easier on the eye than something along the lines of a 'breakdown' or 'lack of available drivers'.
(15 Nov 2019, 8:50 pm)Andreos1 My own thoughts are that it's an easy cop out for them. It could mean many things, but experience/cynicism gives me the impression that the vagueness of it indicates that its something to do with maintenance or a rota issue. Looks easier on the eye than something along the lines of a 'breakdown' or 'lack of available drivers'.
Wasn't it said but 5230 and 5232 are only at deptford on loan . Also Cobalt and Coasts are the only B9TLs to get refurbished. I'd imagine a retrim of some sort to happen next year
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(15 Nov 2019, 10:58 pm)ryan.c.lawrence.5 Wasn't it said but 5230 and 5232 are only at deptford on loan . Also Cobalt and Coasts are the only B9TLs to get refurbished. I'd imagine a retrim of some sort to happen next year
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Yes no doubt they will end up with the red arrow B9s on non front line services; replacing some of the B7s
(15 Nov 2019, 10:58 pm)ryan.c.lawrence.5 Wasn't it said but 5230 and 5232 are only at deptford on loan . Also Cobalt and Coasts are the only B9TLs to get refurbished. I'd imagine a retrim of some sort to happen next year
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Yes no doubt they will end up with the red arrow B9s on non front line services; replacing some of the B7s
(15 Nov 2019, 9:00 pm)Jimmi Can't say I blame them really, lately I'm so sick of hearing the phrase "the [insert time] Northern/TransPennine Express service to [wherever] has been cancelled, this is due to a shortage of train crew" almost every time I get a train lately, the urge not to complain to them about it is becoming more and more difficult to resist.
Though, in fairness, there were no tracks for any train to run on, earlier this evening.
(15 Nov 2019, 9:00 pm)Jimmi Can't say I blame them really, lately I'm so sick of hearing the phrase "the [insert time] Northern/TransPennine Express service to [wherever] has been cancelled, this is due to a shortage of train crew" almost every time I get a train lately, the urge not to complain to them about it is becoming more and more difficult to resist.
Though, in fairness, there were no tracks for any train to run on, earlier this evening.
(15 Nov 2019, 9:00 pm)Jimmi Can't say I blame them really, lately I'm so sick of hearing the phrase "the [insert time] Northern/TransPennine Express service to [wherever] has been cancelled, this is due to a shortage of train crew" almost every time I get a train lately, the urge not to complain to them about it is becoming more and more difficult to resist.
That's why I just don't travel by train anymore, for the places I usually travel to it's easier, faster and cheaper to just fly, or if we have time we just take the car.
Plus, if I wanted to sit on an ironing board for a few hours, I'd just do a few laps on the 26 rather than pay LNER for the 'privilege' of riding an Azuma!
I suppose the only downside would be not being able to get a PlusBus ticket to explore the area
(15 Nov 2019, 9:00 pm)Jimmi Can't say I blame them really, lately I'm so sick of hearing the phrase "the [insert time] Northern/TransPennine Express service to [wherever] has been cancelled, this is due to a shortage of train crew" almost every time I get a train lately, the urge not to complain to them about it is becoming more and more difficult to resist.
That's why I just don't travel by train anymore, for the places I usually travel to it's easier, faster and cheaper to just fly, or if we have time we just take the car.
Plus, if I wanted to sit on an ironing board for a few hours, I'd just do a few laps on the 26 rather than pay LNER for the 'privilege' of riding an Azuma!
I suppose the only downside would be not being able to get a PlusBus ticket to explore the area
(15 Nov 2019, 9:00 pm)Jimmi Can't say I blame them really, lately I'm so sick of hearing the phrase "the [insert time] Northern/TransPennine Express service to [wherever] has been cancelled, this is due to a shortage of train crew" almost every time I get a train lately, the urge not to complain to them about it is becoming more and more difficult to resist.
I wonder if the regulation that's left on the rails, means they can't bull$hit3 passengers with pithy excuses?
Tocs: 'Missed your last connecting train - here's a complementary taxi to counter the inconvenience'.
'Delayed over 30mins or more? You can apply for delay repay'.
Bus ops: 'soz N that, operational issues mean you're gonna have to pay for a taxi home or arrange a lift, cos we have cancelled the last bus'.
'Due to operational issues, you're going to have to hang around for half an hour and wait for the next one as we've span it round at Gateshead'
As frustrating as it may be, I appreciate the apparent transparency offered by the tocs in situations like this. Rather than patter which could mean anything and everything and doesn't help the passenger at all.
(15 Nov 2019, 9:00 pm)Jimmi Can't say I blame them really, lately I'm so sick of hearing the phrase "the [insert time] Northern/TransPennine Express service to [wherever] has been cancelled, this is due to a shortage of train crew" almost every time I get a train lately, the urge not to complain to them about it is becoming more and more difficult to resist.
I wonder if the regulation that's left on the rails, means they can't bull$hit3 passengers with pithy excuses?
Tocs: 'Missed your last connecting train - here's a complementary taxi to counter the inconvenience'.
'Delayed over 30mins or more? You can apply for delay repay'.
Bus ops: 'soz N that, operational issues mean you're gonna have to pay for a taxi home or arrange a lift, cos we have cancelled the last bus'.
'Due to operational issues, you're going to have to hang around for half an hour and wait for the next one as we've span it round at Gateshead'
As frustrating as it may be, I appreciate the apparent transparency offered by the tocs in situations like this. Rather than patter which could mean anything and everything and doesn't help the passenger at all.
