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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - December 2019

Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - December 2019

 
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Kuyoyo



6,853
20 Dec 2019, 4:54 am #21
(20 Dec 2019, 1:06 am)peter The overall PVR at Durham looks as though it will be going up by 3 due to the extension of the 57, rerouting of the 57A and the 56/86 no longer interworking with them. If my calculations are correct, from January there'll be 6 buses on the 56/86 and 6 buses on the 57/57a circuits compared to 9 across them all currently. However, from the same date the PVR at Blyth looks to be going down by 1 thanks to the X7/8 starting to interwork with the X9, so an overall increase of 2.

56/86 and 57/57A have been separate since the October service changes - with layover time in Durham between trips.
Kuyoyo
20 Dec 2019, 4:54 am #21

(20 Dec 2019, 1:06 am)peter The overall PVR at Durham looks as though it will be going up by 3 due to the extension of the 57, rerouting of the 57A and the 56/86 no longer interworking with them. If my calculations are correct, from January there'll be 6 buses on the 56/86 and 6 buses on the 57/57a circuits compared to 9 across them all currently. However, from the same date the PVR at Blyth looks to be going down by 1 thanks to the X7/8 starting to interwork with the X9, so an overall increase of 2.

56/86 and 57/57A have been separate since the October service changes - with layover time in Durham between trips.

peter



993
20 Dec 2019, 12:19 pm #22
(20 Dec 2019, 4:54 am)Kuyoyo 56/86 and 57/57A have been separate since the October service changes - with layover time in Durham between trips.

Ah cheers, that must have passed me by!
peter
20 Dec 2019, 12:19 pm #22

(20 Dec 2019, 4:54 am)Kuyoyo 56/86 and 57/57A have been separate since the October service changes - with layover time in Durham between trips.

Ah cheers, that must have passed me by!

S830OFT



1,395
21 Dec 2019, 3:25 pm #23
The ex London E400 in Arriva Sapphire livery has a MAX interior...


S830OFT
21 Dec 2019, 3:25 pm #23

The ex London E400 in Arriva Sapphire livery has a MAX interior...



22 Dec 2019, 12:29 am #24
It's already been mentioned that it's got 7513's seats. Fleet number is 7510.

As it's just a spare bus and given its reason for arrival, I think that the interior can be forgiven.
omnicity4659
22 Dec 2019, 12:29 am #24

It's already been mentioned that it's got 7513's seats. Fleet number is 7510.

As it's just a spare bus and given its reason for arrival, I think that the interior can be forgiven.

Jimbo



22
23 Dec 2019, 8:05 pm #25
I've just been told that 2828 went up in flames is this true hope no one got hurt
Jimbo
23 Dec 2019, 8:05 pm #25

I've just been told that 2828 went up in flames is this true hope no one got hurt

BusLoverMum



5,281
23 Dec 2019, 9:49 pm #26
(23 Dec 2019, 8:05 pm)Jimbo I've just been told that 2828 went up in flames is this true hope no one got hurt

About 2 weeks ago.
BusLoverMum
23 Dec 2019, 9:49 pm #26

(23 Dec 2019, 8:05 pm)Jimbo I've just been told that 2828 went up in flames is this true hope no one got hurt

About 2 weeks ago.

S830OFT



1,395
23 Dec 2019, 10:37 pm #27
(23 Dec 2019, 9:49 pm)BusLoverMum About 2 weeks ago.
According to bustimes it's back in service...


S830OFT
23 Dec 2019, 10:37 pm #27

(23 Dec 2019, 9:49 pm)BusLoverMum About 2 weeks ago.
According to bustimes it's back in service...



24 Dec 2019, 6:58 am #28
Don't trust everything you read on BusTimes - remember, they track a ticket machine that happens to be linked to a particular vehicle, so if the machine is swapped but the identity of the new vehicle it's linked to isn't then the tracking will appear to follow the original - and in some cases already-withdrawn - vehicle.
Ianthegoon
24 Dec 2019, 6:58 am #28

Don't trust everything you read on BusTimes - remember, they track a ticket machine that happens to be linked to a particular vehicle, so if the machine is swapped but the identity of the new vehicle it's linked to isn't then the tracking will appear to follow the original - and in some cases already-withdrawn - vehicle.

Cock Robin



2,778
24 Dec 2019, 12:11 pm #29
Its for disposal. What's left of it!
Cock Robin
24 Dec 2019, 12:11 pm #29

Its for disposal. What's left of it!

24 Dec 2019, 12:52 pm #30
(24 Dec 2019, 12:11 pm)Cock Robin Its for disposal. What's left of it!
A challenging restoration project for a really keen enthusiast?
Ianthegoon
24 Dec 2019, 12:52 pm #30

(24 Dec 2019, 12:11 pm)Cock Robin Its for disposal. What's left of it!
A challenging restoration project for a really keen enthusiast?

ne14ne1



1,514
26 Dec 2019, 3:10 pm #31
Did I see a de-branded one of these heading into Jesmond Depot a few days back?  https://www.flickr.com/photos/61188429@N06/49259161568/
ne14ne1
26 Dec 2019, 3:10 pm #31

Did I see a de-branded one of these heading into Jesmond Depot a few days back?  https://www.flickr.com/photos/61188429@N06/49259161568/

L469 YVK



3,549
27 Dec 2019, 1:23 pm #32
For Arriva's Boxing Day services in the future, would it not be cheaper to open Blyth depot in terms of mileage?

- X10/X11 (renumbered 10 / 11) would run serving all stops via Wideopen and interwork with the 52/X16. This would reduce the PVR from 8x to 6x due to the 43 not needing to run.

- 308 would remain unchanged.

- 52 and X16 would interwork with 10 / 11

- X21 / X22 driver changeovers would take place on Bedlington Front Street with some early morning and early-mid evening journeys either starting or terminating in Bedlington.
L469 YVK
27 Dec 2019, 1:23 pm #32

For Arriva's Boxing Day services in the future, would it not be cheaper to open Blyth depot in terms of mileage?

- X10/X11 (renumbered 10 / 11) would run serving all stops via Wideopen and interwork with the 52/X16. This would reduce the PVR from 8x to 6x due to the 43 not needing to run.

- 308 would remain unchanged.

- 52 and X16 would interwork with 10 / 11

- X21 / X22 driver changeovers would take place on Bedlington Front Street with some early morning and early-mid evening journeys either starting or terminating in Bedlington.

Kuyoyo



6,853
27 Dec 2019, 1:31 pm #33
(27 Dec 2019, 1:23 pm)L469 YVK For Arriva's Boxing Day services in the future, would it not be cheaper to open Blyth depot in terms of mileage?

- X10/X11 (renumbered 10 / 11) would run serving all stops via Wideopen and interwork with the 52/X16. This would reduce the PVR from 8x to 6x due to the 43 not needing to run.

- 308 would remain unchanged.

- 52 and X16 would interwork with 10 / 11

- X21 / X22 driver changeovers would take place on Bedlington Front Street with some early morning and early-mid evening journeys either starting or terminating in Bedlington.

Why? Easier to operate everything from Jesmond depot. Then driver changeovers are taking place at an official break location rather than requiring paid travelling time from Bedlington to Blyth to have their break.
Kuyoyo
27 Dec 2019, 1:31 pm #33

(27 Dec 2019, 1:23 pm)L469 YVK For Arriva's Boxing Day services in the future, would it not be cheaper to open Blyth depot in terms of mileage?

- X10/X11 (renumbered 10 / 11) would run serving all stops via Wideopen and interwork with the 52/X16. This would reduce the PVR from 8x to 6x due to the 43 not needing to run.

- 308 would remain unchanged.

- 52 and X16 would interwork with 10 / 11

- X21 / X22 driver changeovers would take place on Bedlington Front Street with some early morning and early-mid evening journeys either starting or terminating in Bedlington.

Why? Easier to operate everything from Jesmond depot. Then driver changeovers are taking place at an official break location rather than requiring paid travelling time from Bedlington to Blyth to have their break.

RobinHood



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27 Dec 2019, 8:24 pm #34
(27 Dec 2019, 1:31 pm)Kuyoyo Why? Easier to operate everything from Jesmond depot. Then driver changeovers are taking place at an official break location rather than requiring paid travelling time from Bedlington to Blyth to have their break.

Not to mention the cost of having two depots worth of supervisor and engineering staff on hand, even if only for a few hours each end of the day.

I also suspect the X10/X11 couldn't hold all of the passengers either. Keep it simple, don't complicate things by having unique service numbers on Boxing Day.

Opening one depot seems sensible.
RobinHood
27 Dec 2019, 8:24 pm #34

(27 Dec 2019, 1:31 pm)Kuyoyo Why? Easier to operate everything from Jesmond depot. Then driver changeovers are taking place at an official break location rather than requiring paid travelling time from Bedlington to Blyth to have their break.

Not to mention the cost of having two depots worth of supervisor and engineering staff on hand, even if only for a few hours each end of the day.

I also suspect the X10/X11 couldn't hold all of the passengers either. Keep it simple, don't complicate things by having unique service numbers on Boxing Day.

Opening one depot seems sensible.

27 Dec 2019, 10:16 pm #35
Are anymore Pulsar 2s being refurbished or repainted?
NewcastleOne
27 Dec 2019, 10:16 pm #35

Are anymore Pulsar 2s being refurbished or repainted?

Ryland



461
29 Dec 2019, 9:55 am #36
(24 Dec 2019, 12:52 pm)Ianthegoon A challenging restoration project for a really keen enthusiast?
Where is this bus currently stored at
Ryland
29 Dec 2019, 9:55 am #36

(24 Dec 2019, 12:52 pm)Ianthegoon A challenging restoration project for a really keen enthusiast?
Where is this bus currently stored at

tyresmoke



5,318
30 Dec 2019, 10:14 am #37
Not sure if it has been mentioned previously but 7424, 7609 and 7610 are all back at Redcar/Whitby. 2828 last I knew was at Redcar

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tyresmoke
30 Dec 2019, 10:14 am #37

Not sure if it has been mentioned previously but 7424, 7609 and 7610 are all back at Redcar/Whitby. 2828 last I knew was at Redcar


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30 Dec 2019, 12:10 pm #38
7446 VOR again due to an RTC involving it
Citaro5338
30 Dec 2019, 12:10 pm #38

7446 VOR again due to an RTC involving it

S830OFT



1,395
30 Dec 2019, 2:20 pm #39
(30 Dec 2019, 10:14 am)tyresmoke Not sure if it has been mentioned previously but 7424, 7609 and 7610 are all back at Redcar/Whitby. 2828 last I knew was at Redcar

Only a skeleton remains of the rear of 2828 following it's engine fire. Parked up waiting for scrap I believe...


S830OFT
30 Dec 2019, 2:20 pm #39

(30 Dec 2019, 10:14 am)tyresmoke Not sure if it has been mentioned previously but 7424, 7609 and 7610 are all back at Redcar/Whitby. 2828 last I knew was at Redcar

Only a skeleton remains of the rear of 2828 following it's engine fire. Parked up waiting for scrap I believe...



Jimmi



10,969
30 Dec 2019, 7:29 pm #40
(30 Dec 2019, 10:14 am)tyresmoke Not sure if it has been mentioned previously but 7424, 7609 and 7610 are all back at Redcar/Whitby. 2828 last I knew was at Redcar
7609 is currently on loan to Blyth depot
Jimmi
30 Dec 2019, 7:29 pm #40

(30 Dec 2019, 10:14 am)tyresmoke Not sure if it has been mentioned previously but 7424, 7609 and 7610 are all back at Redcar/Whitby. 2828 last I knew was at Redcar
7609 is currently on loan to Blyth depot

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