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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - December 2019

Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - December 2019

 
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AIG20



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22 Dec 2019, 5:51 pm #81
(22 Dec 2019, 4:43 pm)Kuyoyo They will likely be getting withdrawn - unless they get earmarked for the Cummins Euro6 conversion. They don't meet the upcoming LEZ scheme.

So, I assume there is a high chance of Walkergate and Slatyford getting lots more brand new buses (or newer cascades from elsewhere) next year to ensure that the entire fleet at both depots are LEZ compliant?

Will any of the MAN E200s be getting a Cummins Euro 6 conversion next year, or could several of these be getting replaced with new vehicles next year as well?

I wouldn't be surprised if there are some vehicle swaps between depots as well - MAN ALX300s being swapped with ADL E300s if they don't get replaced with brand new / newer vehicles.
AIG20
22 Dec 2019, 5:51 pm #81

(22 Dec 2019, 4:43 pm)Kuyoyo They will likely be getting withdrawn - unless they get earmarked for the Cummins Euro6 conversion. They don't meet the upcoming LEZ scheme.

So, I assume there is a high chance of Walkergate and Slatyford getting lots more brand new buses (or newer cascades from elsewhere) next year to ensure that the entire fleet at both depots are LEZ compliant?

Will any of the MAN E200s be getting a Cummins Euro 6 conversion next year, or could several of these be getting replaced with new vehicles next year as well?

I wouldn't be surprised if there are some vehicle swaps between depots as well - MAN ALX300s being swapped with ADL E300s if they don't get replaced with brand new / newer vehicles.

23 Dec 2019, 3:52 pm #82
39702 back at Chi depot, according to Bus Times.
slp1976
23 Dec 2019, 3:52 pm #82

39702 back at Chi depot, according to Bus Times.

Youngymmv



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23 Dec 2019, 10:06 pm #83
Forgive my ignorance but do all services from slatyford and walkergate actually go into Newcastle city centre where the LEZ is. Can’t see them making sure every bus in depots meet the criteria if they don’t need to be. like South Shields only using certain buses on 10/11 as contract specific engine requirements.

Kind regards

Chris
Youngymmv
23 Dec 2019, 10:06 pm #83

Forgive my ignorance but do all services from slatyford and walkergate actually go into Newcastle city centre where the LEZ is. Can’t see them making sure every bus in depots meet the criteria if they don’t need to be. like South Shields only using certain buses on 10/11 as contract specific engine requirements.

Kind regards

Chris

S830OFT



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23 Dec 2019, 10:36 pm #84
(23 Dec 2019, 10:06 pm)Youngymmv Forgive my ignorance but do all services from slatyford and walkergate actually go into Newcastle city centre where the LEZ is. Can’t see them making sure every bus in depots meet the criteria if they don’t need to be. like South Shields only using certain buses on 10/11 as contract specific engine requirements.

Kind regards

Chris
The 6/7/18 avoid Newcastle Centre but that's about it...


S830OFT
23 Dec 2019, 10:36 pm #84

(23 Dec 2019, 10:06 pm)Youngymmv Forgive my ignorance but do all services from slatyford and walkergate actually go into Newcastle city centre where the LEZ is. Can’t see them making sure every bus in depots meet the criteria if they don’t need to be. like South Shields only using certain buses on 10/11 as contract specific engine requirements.

Kind regards

Chris
The 6/7/18 avoid Newcastle Centre but that's about it...



24 Dec 2019, 2:49 pm #85
Have any E400s left Newcastle?
NewcastleOne
24 Dec 2019, 2:49 pm #85

Have any E400s left Newcastle?

24 Dec 2019, 5:55 pm #86
(24 Dec 2019, 2:49 pm)NewcastleOne Have any E400s left Newcastle?
One of the first intended recipients was reported to be West, and my contacts there haven't noted any turning up as yet.
Ianthegoon
24 Dec 2019, 5:55 pm #86

(24 Dec 2019, 2:49 pm)NewcastleOne Have any E400s left Newcastle?
One of the first intended recipients was reported to be West, and my contacts there haven't noted any turning up as yet.

25 Dec 2019, 9:31 pm #87
None left yet theres still 8 of them all lined up in yard i put a few there last week to free up some space
topsweep1506
25 Dec 2019, 9:31 pm #87

None left yet theres still 8 of them all lined up in yard i put a few there last week to free up some space

Malarkey



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25 Dec 2019, 11:18 pm #88
(25 Dec 2019, 9:31 pm)topsweep1506 None left yet theres still 8 of them all lined up in yard i put a few there last week to free up some space

I seen a convoy of three of them passing through Low Fell on Monday heading south towards the A1, where were they going?
Malarkey
25 Dec 2019, 11:18 pm #88

(25 Dec 2019, 9:31 pm)topsweep1506 None left yet theres still 8 of them all lined up in yard i put a few there last week to free up some space

I seen a convoy of three of them passing through Low Fell on Monday heading south towards the A1, where were they going?

26 Dec 2019, 10:25 am #89
Apparently 19194/6/210 have been sighted with Stagecoach East Midlands at Hull

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Stephen James Peter Johns
26 Dec 2019, 10:25 am #89

Apparently 19194/6/210 have been sighted with Stagecoach East Midlands at Hull

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LiamD55



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26 Dec 2019, 10:55 am #90
Not many standard E400 left at Slatyford is any coming over from Walkergate ? The decline in numbers has resulted in alot of single decks back on some busy runs especially at peak times.
LiamD55
26 Dec 2019, 10:55 am #90

Not many standard E400 left at Slatyford is any coming over from Walkergate ? The decline in numbers has resulted in alot of single decks back on some busy runs especially at peak times.

26 Dec 2019, 11:16 am #91
19379,380,381,382 are ment to be going to Slatyford from Walkergate and 19383 19384 to Stockton once weve got all the MMC’s
topsweep1506
26 Dec 2019, 11:16 am #91

19379,380,381,382 are ment to be going to Slatyford from Walkergate and 19383 19384 to Stockton once weve got all the MMC’s

30 Dec 2019, 4:25 pm #92
How come Stagecoach Newcastle now have NSAs on the new buses? Are the NSAs only going to be on 39/40 or will they be added to other services in the future?
OrangeArrow49
30 Dec 2019, 4:25 pm #92

How come Stagecoach Newcastle now have NSAs on the new buses? Are the NSAs only going to be on 39/40 or will they be added to other services in the future?

tyresmoke



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30 Dec 2019, 4:30 pm #93
(30 Dec 2019, 4:25 pm)OrangeArrow49 How come Stagecoach Newcastle now have NSAs on the new buses? Are the NSAs only going to be on 39/40 or will they be added to other services in the future?

Stockton's new batch of E200's have the system fitted also, comes as standard on new Stagecoach deliveries now. I believe they're programmed for every route in the depot. Anyone know whether this includes Hartlepool which often borrows buses from Stockton?

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tyresmoke
30 Dec 2019, 4:30 pm #93

(30 Dec 2019, 4:25 pm)OrangeArrow49 How come Stagecoach Newcastle now have NSAs on the new buses? Are the NSAs only going to be on 39/40 or will they be added to other services in the future?

Stockton's new batch of E200's have the system fitted also, comes as standard on new Stagecoach deliveries now. I believe they're programmed for every route in the depot. Anyone know whether this includes Hartlepool which often borrows buses from Stockton?


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30 Dec 2019, 4:45 pm #94
(30 Dec 2019, 4:30 pm)tyresmoke Stockton's new batch of E200's have the system fitted also, comes as standard on new Stagecoach deliveries now. I believe they're programmed for every route in the depot. Anyone know whether this includes Hartlepool which often borrows buses from Stockton?

So all Walkergate operated services will have NSAs if they get allocated the new buses? I have only seen the new buses on the 39 and 40 so far.

I thought Stagecoach had decided against introducing NSAs.
OrangeArrow49
30 Dec 2019, 4:45 pm #94

(30 Dec 2019, 4:30 pm)tyresmoke Stockton's new batch of E200's have the system fitted also, comes as standard on new Stagecoach deliveries now. I believe they're programmed for every route in the depot. Anyone know whether this includes Hartlepool which often borrows buses from Stockton?

So all Walkergate operated services will have NSAs if they get allocated the new buses? I have only seen the new buses on the 39 and 40 so far.

I thought Stagecoach had decided against introducing NSAs.

Dan

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30 Dec 2019, 4:56 pm #95
(30 Dec 2019, 4:45 pm)OrangeArrow49 So all Walkergate operated services will have NSAs if they get allocated the new buses? I have only seen the new buses on the 39 and 40 so far.

I thought Stagecoach had decided against introducing NSAs.

Its fitment is likely to become law at some stage in the near future for larger operators - so not really up to them to decide against it! Makes sense commercially to fit it now as it's easily hidden within the cost of a brand new bus, than it is to pay for the kit upfront and retrofit.

Don't think the kits in Newcastle are working yet, mind, unless things have changed in the last week or so?
Dan
30 Dec 2019, 4:56 pm #95

(30 Dec 2019, 4:45 pm)OrangeArrow49 So all Walkergate operated services will have NSAs if they get allocated the new buses? I have only seen the new buses on the 39 and 40 so far.

I thought Stagecoach had decided against introducing NSAs.

Its fitment is likely to become law at some stage in the near future for larger operators - so not really up to them to decide against it! Makes sense commercially to fit it now as it's easily hidden within the cost of a brand new bus, than it is to pay for the kit upfront and retrofit.

Don't think the kits in Newcastle are working yet, mind, unless things have changed in the last week or so?

Kuyoyo



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30 Dec 2019, 5:10 pm #96
(30 Dec 2019, 4:56 pm)Dan Its fitment is likely to become law at some stage in the near future for larger operators - so not really up to them to decide against it! Makes sense commercially to fit it now as it's easily hidden within the cost of a brand new bus, than it is to pay for the kit upfront and retrofit.

Don't think the kits in Newcastle are working yet, mind, unless things have changed in the last week or so?

Were working when I was up there a week on Saturday.

As for Stockton’s E200s, believe they will have announcements for all Stockton’s routes given the amount of non-36/37/38 turns they do cover regardless of wrong allocation.
Kuyoyo
30 Dec 2019, 5:10 pm #96

(30 Dec 2019, 4:56 pm)Dan Its fitment is likely to become law at some stage in the near future for larger operators - so not really up to them to decide against it! Makes sense commercially to fit it now as it's easily hidden within the cost of a brand new bus, than it is to pay for the kit upfront and retrofit.

Don't think the kits in Newcastle are working yet, mind, unless things have changed in the last week or so?

Were working when I was up there a week on Saturday.

As for Stockton’s E200s, believe they will have announcements for all Stockton’s routes given the amount of non-36/37/38 turns they do cover regardless of wrong allocation.

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