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Dan

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23 Jan 2020, 5:26 pm #361
(23 Jan 2020, 4:46 pm)streetdeckfan I understand, I was just saying the counter-argument of saying they can't be branded separately could be invalidated by the fact that two different brands run the route already.
I do agree that it would be more confusing with the way they'll run from Sunday

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but won't the Angel branded journeys actually increase from Sunday (temporarily at least)? 
If there aren't enough X-Lines branded vehicles already and there are more X-Lines services being added, won't Angel branded vehicles have to be used?

As a side note, do we know which Angel branded ones will be rebranded? I assume it'll be the higher numbered ones to keep the X-Lines all together

As a further side note, I've just noticed the proper X21 timetable is now on the website so it's easier to understand!

..which Angel branded one (not plural!)

6331.
Dan
23 Jan 2020, 5:26 pm #361

(23 Jan 2020, 4:46 pm)streetdeckfan I understand, I was just saying the counter-argument of saying they can't be branded separately could be invalidated by the fact that two different brands run the route already.
I do agree that it would be more confusing with the way they'll run from Sunday

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but won't the Angel branded journeys actually increase from Sunday (temporarily at least)? 
If there aren't enough X-Lines branded vehicles already and there are more X-Lines services being added, won't Angel branded vehicles have to be used?

As a side note, do we know which Angel branded ones will be rebranded? I assume it'll be the higher numbered ones to keep the X-Lines all together

As a further side note, I've just noticed the proper X21 timetable is now on the website so it's easier to understand!

..which Angel branded one (not plural!)

6331.

23 Jan 2020, 5:32 pm #362
(23 Jan 2020, 5:26 pm)Dan ..which Angel branded one (not plural!)

6331.

I assume it'll be going blue X-lines to match the rest?
streetdeckfan
23 Jan 2020, 5:32 pm #362

(23 Jan 2020, 5:26 pm)Dan ..which Angel branded one (not plural!)

6331.

I assume it'll be going blue X-lines to match the rest?

Dan

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23 Jan 2020, 5:33 pm #363
(23 Jan 2020, 5:32 pm)streetdeckfan I assume it'll be going blue X-lines to match the rest?

Yes.
Dan
23 Jan 2020, 5:33 pm #363

(23 Jan 2020, 5:32 pm)streetdeckfan I assume it'll be going blue X-lines to match the rest?

Yes.

23 Jan 2020, 5:43 pm #364
Whilst I'm disappointed to see that the new timetable once again uses a raster image for the livery on the timetable, it's good to see that they haven't locked me from being able to open it in Illustrator with a password like they do with the non X-Lines timetables (I assume they're designed by a different firm?) so I can have play around!

Also, it allows you to visually see how much better the new route round Woodhouse is compared to the old one! (left being the new, and right being the left)

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PS: why does clicking remove attachment save the post? I accidentally uploaded a more edited than I thought version and clicking remove posted it!
streetdeckfan
23 Jan 2020, 5:43 pm #364

Whilst I'm disappointed to see that the new timetable once again uses a raster image for the livery on the timetable, it's good to see that they haven't locked me from being able to open it in Illustrator with a password like they do with the non X-Lines timetables (I assume they're designed by a different firm?) so I can have play around!

Also, it allows you to visually see how much better the new route round Woodhouse is compared to the old one! (left being the new, and right being the left)

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Woodhouse (2).png
Size 176.12 KB / Downloads 79


PS: why does clicking remove attachment save the post? I accidentally uploaded a more edited than I thought version and clicking remove posted it!

Michael



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23 Jan 2020, 7:09 pm #365
Which other Angels are going X-Lines X21? or is it just 6331?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
23 Jan 2020, 7:09 pm #365

Which other Angels are going X-Lines X21? or is it just 6331?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

23 Jan 2020, 7:15 pm #366
(23 Jan 2020, 7:09 pm)Michael Which other Angels are going X-Lines X21? or is it just 6331?

I think Dan made it quite clear that it's just the one (not plural!)

I thought there would have to be more painted like, but then again we're still waiting for the new ones to arrive!
streetdeckfan
23 Jan 2020, 7:15 pm #366

(23 Jan 2020, 7:09 pm)Michael Which other Angels are going X-Lines X21? or is it just 6331?

I think Dan made it quite clear that it's just the one (not plural!)

I thought there would have to be more painted like, but then again we're still waiting for the new ones to arrive!

Michael



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23 Jan 2020, 7:21 pm #367
(23 Jan 2020, 7:15 pm)streetdeckfan I think Dan made it quite clear that it's just the one (not plural!)

I thought there would have to be more painted like, but then again we're still waiting for the new ones to arrive!

Ah right, was just checking!

Seems daft, when they need a few more repainted... unless we're gonna see a service dropped from the current order of Streetdecks (like the X5/X15) so they would end up on the X21 instead, although, 2 are currently on order for the X21.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
23 Jan 2020, 7:21 pm #367

(23 Jan 2020, 7:15 pm)streetdeckfan I think Dan made it quite clear that it's just the one (not plural!)

I thought there would have to be more painted like, but then again we're still waiting for the new ones to arrive!

Ah right, was just checking!

Seems daft, when they need a few more repainted... unless we're gonna see a service dropped from the current order of Streetdecks (like the X5/X15) so they would end up on the X21 instead, although, 2 are currently on order for the X21.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

cbma06



2,669
23 Jan 2020, 7:41 pm #368
(23 Jan 2020, 7:21 pm)Michael Ah right, was just checking!

Seems daft, when they need a few more repainted... unless we're gonna see a service dropped from the current order of Streetdecks (like the X5/X15) so they would end up on the X21 instead, although, 2 are currently on order for the X21.


So between Chester and Durham, there be a 21 every 15 minutes and a X21 every 15 minutes?, it’s a bit overkill for that section of route, should of just had the 21 every 30 minutes on that section of route since both services stop at every single bus stop.


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cbma06
23 Jan 2020, 7:41 pm #368

(23 Jan 2020, 7:21 pm)Michael Ah right, was just checking!

Seems daft, when they need a few more repainted... unless we're gonna see a service dropped from the current order of Streetdecks (like the X5/X15) so they would end up on the X21 instead, although, 2 are currently on order for the X21.


So between Chester and Durham, there be a 21 every 15 minutes and a X21 every 15 minutes?, it’s a bit overkill for that section of route, should of just had the 21 every 30 minutes on that section of route since both services stop at every single bus stop.


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citaro5284



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23 Jan 2020, 7:47 pm #369
(23 Jan 2020, 7:41 pm)cbma06 So between Chester and Durham, there be a 21 every 15 minutes and a X21 every 15 minutes?, it’s a bit overkill for that section of route, should of just had the 21 every 30 minutes on that section of route since both services stop at every single bus stop.


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21 is only every 30 mins between Durham and Chester
citaro5284
23 Jan 2020, 7:47 pm #369

(23 Jan 2020, 7:41 pm)cbma06 So between Chester and Durham, there be a 21 every 15 minutes and a X21 every 15 minutes?, it’s a bit overkill for that section of route, should of just had the 21 every 30 minutes on that section of route since both services stop at every single bus stop.


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21 is only every 30 mins between Durham and Chester

pbjd



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23 Jan 2020, 7:47 pm #370
(23 Jan 2020, 7:41 pm)cbma06 So between Chester and Durham, there be a 21 every 15 minutes and a X21 every 15 minutes?, it’s a bit overkill for that section of route, should of just had the 21 every 30 minutes on that section of route since both services stop at every single bus stop.


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The 21 will be evry 30 Newcastle to Durham, with the X21 every 15, 21 remains every 7/8 to Chester.
pbjd
23 Jan 2020, 7:47 pm #370

(23 Jan 2020, 7:41 pm)cbma06 So between Chester and Durham, there be a 21 every 15 minutes and a X21 every 15 minutes?, it’s a bit overkill for that section of route, should of just had the 21 every 30 minutes on that section of route since both services stop at every single bus stop.


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The 21 will be evry 30 Newcastle to Durham, with the X21 every 15, 21 remains every 7/8 to Chester.

cbma06



2,669
23 Jan 2020, 7:49 pm #371
(23 Jan 2020, 7:47 pm)citaro5284 21 is only every 30 mins between Durham and Chester


Ok, Must of read it wrong


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cbma06
23 Jan 2020, 7:49 pm #371

(23 Jan 2020, 7:47 pm)citaro5284 21 is only every 30 mins between Durham and Chester


Ok, Must of read it wrong


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23 Jan 2020, 8:05 pm #372
(23 Jan 2020, 7:21 pm)Michael Ah right, was just checking!

Seems daft, when they need a few more repainted... unless we're gonna see a service dropped from the current order of Streetdecks (like the X5/X15) so they would end up on the X21 instead, although, 2 are currently on order for the X21.

Just messing with you. Thought I'd respond in the same abrupt manner as Dan Wink

I was kinda hoping they'd repaint an extra 3 of the Angel ones so we can palm the 16 plates off on another route!

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streetdeckfan
23 Jan 2020, 8:05 pm #372

(23 Jan 2020, 7:21 pm)Michael Ah right, was just checking!

Seems daft, when they need a few more repainted... unless we're gonna see a service dropped from the current order of Streetdecks (like the X5/X15) so they would end up on the X21 instead, although, 2 are currently on order for the X21.

Just messing with you. Thought I'd respond in the same abrupt manner as Dan Wink

I was kinda hoping they'd repaint an extra 3 of the Angel ones so we can palm the 16 plates off on another route!

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Dan

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23 Jan 2020, 8:09 pm #373
(23 Jan 2020, 8:05 pm)streetdeckfan Just messing with you. Thought I'd respond in the same abrupt manner as Dan Wink

I was kinda hoping they'd repaint an extra 3 of the Angel ones so we can palm the 16 plates off on another route!

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What would then run on the 21?

The PVR of the 21 reduces by one bus, so one bus will be painted and branded for the X21.


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Dan
23 Jan 2020, 8:09 pm #373

(23 Jan 2020, 8:05 pm)streetdeckfan Just messing with you. Thought I'd respond in the same abrupt manner as Dan Wink

I was kinda hoping they'd repaint an extra 3 of the Angel ones so we can palm the 16 plates off on another route!

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What would then run on the 21?

The PVR of the 21 reduces by one bus, so one bus will be painted and branded for the X21.


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cbma06



2,669
23 Jan 2020, 8:27 pm #374
When service 21 gets refreshed livery, will it be similar to the livery on 309/310 except for the colour?


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cbma06
23 Jan 2020, 8:27 pm #374

When service 21 gets refreshed livery, will it be similar to the livery on 309/310 except for the colour?


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23 Jan 2020, 8:32 pm #375
Is Tynedale Links still going to exist, and gain road stripes? The Northumberland contracts should be up for renewal this year, I think. Seriously hoping the 74 continues to exist! As Tynedale Express is going X-lines at some point, I thought we might see the end of Tynedale Links too.

Can anyone clarify if the 74 is currently running the normal route along Stamfordham Road or not?
OrangeArrow49
23 Jan 2020, 8:32 pm #375

Is Tynedale Links still going to exist, and gain road stripes? The Northumberland contracts should be up for renewal this year, I think. Seriously hoping the 74 continues to exist! As Tynedale Express is going X-lines at some point, I thought we might see the end of Tynedale Links too.

Can anyone clarify if the 74 is currently running the normal route along Stamfordham Road or not?

Echo07



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23 Jan 2020, 9:15 pm #376
(23 Jan 2020, 8:32 pm)OrangeArrow49 Is Tynedale Links still going to exist, and gain road stripes? The Northumberland contracts should be up for renewal this year, I think. Seriously hoping the 74 continues to exist! As Tynedale Express is going X-lines at some point, I thought we might see the end of Tynedale Links too.

Can anyone clarify if the 74 is currently running the normal route along Stamfordham Road or not?
The 74 is running it's normal route.
It just gets the odd small delay from the two sets of roadworks between Callerton and St John's church in Westerhope.
Echo07
23 Jan 2020, 9:15 pm #376

(23 Jan 2020, 8:32 pm)OrangeArrow49 Is Tynedale Links still going to exist, and gain road stripes? The Northumberland contracts should be up for renewal this year, I think. Seriously hoping the 74 continues to exist! As Tynedale Express is going X-lines at some point, I thought we might see the end of Tynedale Links too.

Can anyone clarify if the 74 is currently running the normal route along Stamfordham Road or not?
The 74 is running it's normal route.
It just gets the odd small delay from the two sets of roadworks between Callerton and St John's church in Westerhope.

23 Jan 2020, 9:28 pm #377
(23 Jan 2020, 8:09 pm)Dan What would then run on the 21?

The PVR of the 21 reduces by one bus, so one bus will be painted and branded for the X21.


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The 16 plates!

And yes, that would just be moving the problem of mixed buses to a different service, but one that I don't use!
streetdeckfan
23 Jan 2020, 9:28 pm #377

(23 Jan 2020, 8:09 pm)Dan What would then run on the 21?

The PVR of the 21 reduces by one bus, so one bus will be painted and branded for the X21.


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The 16 plates!

And yes, that would just be moving the problem of mixed buses to a different service, but one that I don't use!

L469 YVK



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23 Jan 2020, 10:04 pm #378
With the Cobalt & Coast PVR reducing back to 16x vehicles, will another vehicle out of 6101-6117 go into fleet livery or will 1x just be earmarked for special liveries (charities, promotions etc) ?
L469 YVK
23 Jan 2020, 10:04 pm #378

With the Cobalt & Coast PVR reducing back to 16x vehicles, will another vehicle out of 6101-6117 go into fleet livery or will 1x just be earmarked for special liveries (charities, promotions etc) ?

Dan

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24 Jan 2020, 5:39 am #379
(23 Jan 2020, 10:04 pm)L469 YVK With the Cobalt & Coast PVR reducing back to 16x vehicles, will another vehicle out of 6101-6117 go into fleet livery or will 1x just be earmarked for special liveries (charities, promotions etc) ?


Definitely not - they’ve literally just been painted, they’re not going to be painted again. Plus all 17 Volvo B9s have had their branding updated inside and out to reflect the service changes.

At such a high PVR there will always be at least one off service anyway.


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Dan
24 Jan 2020, 5:39 am #379

(23 Jan 2020, 10:04 pm)L469 YVK With the Cobalt & Coast PVR reducing back to 16x vehicles, will another vehicle out of 6101-6117 go into fleet livery or will 1x just be earmarked for special liveries (charities, promotions etc) ?


Definitely not - they’ve literally just been painted, they’re not going to be painted again. Plus all 17 Volvo B9s have had their branding updated inside and out to reflect the service changes.

At such a high PVR there will always be at least one off service anyway.


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busmanT



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24 Jan 2020, 9:49 am #380
(23 Jan 2020, 8:09 pm)Dan What would then run on the 21?

The PVR of the 21 reduces by one bus, so one bus will be painted and branded for the X21.


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THe 21 seems to get any sort of bus these days, I'm surprised that your taking another one of the Angel StreetDeck and making it Xlines.
busmanT
24 Jan 2020, 9:49 am #380

(23 Jan 2020, 8:09 pm)Dan What would then run on the 21?

The PVR of the 21 reduces by one bus, so one bus will be painted and branded for the X21.


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THe 21 seems to get any sort of bus these days, I'm surprised that your taking another one of the Angel StreetDeck and making it Xlines.

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