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JP6004



1,833
16 Jan 2020, 11:38 am #241
(16 Jan 2020, 11:34 am)streetdeckfan With the X1 going E400s, I wonder if they'll still spec the low height version they have for the X30, or whether they'll go for the same height as 6337.
I'm very much hoping for the latter as speccing a low height bus where it's not needed is just bad for the passenger experience
No reason for X1 to be low height, X30 has to be for the low bridge at Dunston
JP6004
16 Jan 2020, 11:38 am #241

(16 Jan 2020, 11:34 am)streetdeckfan With the X1 going E400s, I wonder if they'll still spec the low height version they have for the X30, or whether they'll go for the same height as 6337.
I'm very much hoping for the latter as speccing a low height bus where it's not needed is just bad for the passenger experience
No reason for X1 to be low height, X30 has to be for the low bridge at Dunston

16 Jan 2020, 11:48 am #242
(16 Jan 2020, 11:38 am)JP6004 No reason for X1 to be low height, X30 has to be for the low bridge at Dunston

Exactly, but as others have said they may go down the route of all low height.
Even still, 6337 can still fit under the bridge in Dunston, although only just, you can hear how close the roof is when you go under.
streetdeckfan
16 Jan 2020, 11:48 am #242

(16 Jan 2020, 11:38 am)JP6004 No reason for X1 to be low height, X30 has to be for the low bridge at Dunston

Exactly, but as others have said they may go down the route of all low height.
Even still, 6337 can still fit under the bridge in Dunston, although only just, you can hear how close the roof is when you go under.

idiot



1,121
16 Jan 2020, 11:56 am #243
I really feel for the people who rely on the m6... Yet again this morning its off.
idiot
16 Jan 2020, 11:56 am #243

I really feel for the people who rely on the m6... Yet again this morning its off.

16 Jan 2020, 12:08 pm #244
I take it The 49 brand is dead?
When did they remove the vinyls from the buses?

Also, do all the StreetDecks have a speed limiter, 6304 seems to max out at 49mph, but others I've been on don't.

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streetdeckfan
16 Jan 2020, 12:08 pm #244

I take it The 49 brand is dead?
When did they remove the vinyls from the buses?

Also, do all the StreetDecks have a speed limiter, 6304 seems to max out at 49mph, but others I've been on don't.

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Boggle



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16 Jan 2020, 4:19 pm #245
6165 now in use at Chester. This one has had the seats retrimmed.

Hopefully 6162, 63 and 64 will go back in for similar treatment as they’re in an awful state internally.
Boggle
16 Jan 2020, 4:19 pm #245

6165 now in use at Chester. This one has had the seats retrimmed.

Hopefully 6162, 63 and 64 will go back in for similar treatment as they’re in an awful state internally.

Stanleyone

6358

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16 Jan 2020, 4:58 pm #246
(16 Jan 2020, 12:08 pm)streetdeckfan I take it The 49 brand is dead?
When did they remove the vinyls from the buses?

Also, do all the StreetDecks have a speed limiter, 6304 seems to max out at 49mph, but others I've been on don't.

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MG doesn’t like branding over the windows, will the 9 also loose its window sticker?
Stanleyone
16 Jan 2020, 4:58 pm #246

(16 Jan 2020, 12:08 pm)streetdeckfan I take it The 49 brand is dead?
When did they remove the vinyls from the buses?

Also, do all the StreetDecks have a speed limiter, 6304 seems to max out at 49mph, but others I've been on don't.

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MG doesn’t like branding over the windows, will the 9 also loose its window sticker?

16 Jan 2020, 5:47 pm #247
(16 Jan 2020, 4:58 pm)Stanleyone MG doesn’t like branding over the windows, will the 9 also loose its window sticker?

Speaking of branding, I'm surprised at some of the new branding if I'm honest.

The way I seemed to read into the new approach I was seeing them create a new fleet livery, and then using the X-Lines as there Express service brand.

I know since the new MD has came aboard a lot of branding has gone, to help created the corperate look.

Surprised with branding of the Little coasters, and I was very surprised with the Green Arrow remaining rather than going corp.

Is the plan to have a fleet of corp buses, the X-lines services, then a few sub brands
WestDurhamSwift
16 Jan 2020, 5:47 pm #247

(16 Jan 2020, 4:58 pm)Stanleyone MG doesn’t like branding over the windows, will the 9 also loose its window sticker?

Speaking of branding, I'm surprised at some of the new branding if I'm honest.

The way I seemed to read into the new approach I was seeing them create a new fleet livery, and then using the X-Lines as there Express service brand.

I know since the new MD has came aboard a lot of branding has gone, to help created the corperate look.

Surprised with branding of the Little coasters, and I was very surprised with the Green Arrow remaining rather than going corp.

Is the plan to have a fleet of corp buses, the X-lines services, then a few sub brands

Dan

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18,123
16 Jan 2020, 5:59 pm #248
(16 Jan 2020, 5:47 pm)Arcticrossy92 Is the plan to have a fleet of corp buses, the X-lines services, then a few sub brands

Not the plan at all.

Route branding is being rationalised and not used to the extent it was in years gone by, but the main effort now is to keep all brands within a "house style".

The new "house style", i.e. a two-tone livery with "road-stripes" (at a 55-degree angle - a la 55 degrees north!) separating them, was designed by Beacon Creative (not Best Impressions as suggested a few posts earlier).

The logic is that if all brands are kept within one "house style", then it is more recognisable as a Go North East bus, as it will have the signature "road-stripes" to identify it as such. X-lines and Toon Tour, being special brands, have these stripes in the opposite direction, so they're still inkeeping with the main theme, but look different enough so they stand out. The idea with X-lines was also so that it could create an "X" shape, denoting the express nature of the route.
Dan
16 Jan 2020, 5:59 pm #248

(16 Jan 2020, 5:47 pm)Arcticrossy92 Is the plan to have a fleet of corp buses, the X-lines services, then a few sub brands

Not the plan at all.

Route branding is being rationalised and not used to the extent it was in years gone by, but the main effort now is to keep all brands within a "house style".

The new "house style", i.e. a two-tone livery with "road-stripes" (at a 55-degree angle - a la 55 degrees north!) separating them, was designed by Beacon Creative (not Best Impressions as suggested a few posts earlier).

The logic is that if all brands are kept within one "house style", then it is more recognisable as a Go North East bus, as it will have the signature "road-stripes" to identify it as such. X-lines and Toon Tour, being special brands, have these stripes in the opposite direction, so they're still inkeeping with the main theme, but look different enough so they stand out. The idea with X-lines was also so that it could create an "X" shape, denoting the express nature of the route.

16 Jan 2020, 6:05 pm #249
(16 Jan 2020, 5:59 pm)Dan denoting the express nature of the route.
Let me stop you right there Daniel!

Seriously though, the X-lines livery really has grown on me, it looks especially good in the rain, the metallic paint really does sparkle (unlike Arriva's Sapphire service!)

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streetdeckfan
16 Jan 2020, 6:05 pm #249

(16 Jan 2020, 5:59 pm)Dan denoting the express nature of the route.
Let me stop you right there Daniel!

Seriously though, the X-lines livery really has grown on me, it looks especially good in the rain, the metallic paint really does sparkle (unlike Arriva's Sapphire service!)

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16 Jan 2020, 6:32 pm #250
Would be nice to have NSAs back on the 42/42A, are they now completely without NSAs no matter which vehicle is allocated?
OrangeArrow49
16 Jan 2020, 6:32 pm #250

Would be nice to have NSAs back on the 42/42A, are they now completely without NSAs no matter which vehicle is allocated?

Dan

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18,123
16 Jan 2020, 6:33 pm #251
(16 Jan 2020, 6:32 pm)OrangeArrow49 Would be nice to have NSAs back on the 42/42A, are they now completely without NSAs no matter which vehicle is allocated?


If a Cobalt & Coast B9 is allocated to the 42/A, they’d work.


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Dan
16 Jan 2020, 6:33 pm #251

(16 Jan 2020, 6:32 pm)OrangeArrow49 Would be nice to have NSAs back on the 42/42A, are they now completely without NSAs no matter which vehicle is allocated?


If a Cobalt & Coast B9 is allocated to the 42/A, they’d work.


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Michael



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16 Jan 2020, 6:38 pm #252
Any idea which route the 8 will be taking from the 27th to the 2nd February, due to the Queen Alex Bridge being shut? nothing on the GNE site

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
16 Jan 2020, 6:38 pm #252

Any idea which route the 8 will be taking from the 27th to the 2nd February, due to the Queen Alex Bridge being shut? nothing on the GNE site


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

16 Jan 2020, 6:39 pm #253
(16 Jan 2020, 6:33 pm)Dan If a Cobalt & Coast B9 is allocated to the 42/A, they’d work.


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Thanks, Dan. Why only Cobalt & Coast B9s? Is a Cobalt & Coast B9 ever allocated to service 42/A?
OrangeArrow49
16 Jan 2020, 6:39 pm #253

(16 Jan 2020, 6:33 pm)Dan If a Cobalt & Coast B9 is allocated to the 42/A, they’d work.


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Thanks, Dan. Why only Cobalt & Coast B9s? Is a Cobalt & Coast B9 ever allocated to service 42/A?

Dan

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18,123
16 Jan 2020, 6:41 pm #254
(16 Jan 2020, 6:39 pm)OrangeArrow49 Thanks, Dan. Why only Cobalt & Coast B9s? Is a Cobalt & Coast B9 ever allocated to service 42/A?


Because they’re the only buses with the new Next Stop Announcement systems at Percy Main.

No, they should never be allocated to those routes.


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Dan
16 Jan 2020, 6:41 pm #254

(16 Jan 2020, 6:39 pm)OrangeArrow49 Thanks, Dan. Why only Cobalt & Coast B9s? Is a Cobalt & Coast B9 ever allocated to service 42/A?


Because they’re the only buses with the new Next Stop Announcement systems at Percy Main.

No, they should never be allocated to those routes.


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Dan

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18,123
16 Jan 2020, 6:42 pm #255
(16 Jan 2020, 6:39 pm)OrangeArrow49 Thanks, Dan. Why only Cobalt & Coast B9s? Is a Cobalt & Coast B9 ever allocated to service 42/A?


Because they’re the only buses with the new Next Stop Announcement systems at Percy Main.

No, they should never be allocated to those routes.


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Dan
16 Jan 2020, 6:42 pm #255

(16 Jan 2020, 6:39 pm)OrangeArrow49 Thanks, Dan. Why only Cobalt & Coast B9s? Is a Cobalt & Coast B9 ever allocated to service 42/A?


Because they’re the only buses with the new Next Stop Announcement systems at Percy Main.

No, they should never be allocated to those routes.


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16 Jan 2020, 6:48 pm #256
Is the NSA still on track to be live on the X21 on the 26th or have Hanover not fixed the issue yet?

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streetdeckfan
16 Jan 2020, 6:48 pm #256

Is the NSA still on track to be live on the X21 on the 26th or have Hanover not fixed the issue yet?

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16 Jan 2020, 6:56 pm #257
(16 Jan 2020, 6:38 pm)Michael Any idea which route the 8 will be taking from the 27th to the 2nd February, due to the Queen Alex Bridge being shut? nothing on the GNE site
2 choices, either back along wessington way and over the northern spire bridge or past the stadium of light and over the wearmouth bridge, id presume it would be the northern spire option as it would be less congested but who knows
N1cholas
16 Jan 2020, 6:56 pm #257

(16 Jan 2020, 6:38 pm)Michael Any idea which route the 8 will be taking from the 27th to the 2nd February, due to the Queen Alex Bridge being shut? nothing on the GNE site
2 choices, either back along wessington way and over the northern spire bridge or past the stadium of light and over the wearmouth bridge, id presume it would be the northern spire option as it would be less congested but who knows

Michael



19,175
16 Jan 2020, 6:59 pm #258
(16 Jan 2020, 6:56 pm)N1cholas 2 choices, either back along wessington way and over the northern spire bridge or past the stadium of light and over the wearmouth bridge, id presume it would be the northern spire option as it would be less congested but who knows

Hope its not the new bridge, that will leave half of the enterprise park without a bus....can't see it back tracking towards the Southwick one way system and down the enterprise park.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
16 Jan 2020, 6:59 pm #258

(16 Jan 2020, 6:56 pm)N1cholas 2 choices, either back along wessington way and over the northern spire bridge or past the stadium of light and over the wearmouth bridge, id presume it would be the northern spire option as it would be less congested but who knows

Hope its not the new bridge, that will leave half of the enterprise park without a bus....can't see it back tracking towards the Southwick one way system and down the enterprise park.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

JP6004



1,833
16 Jan 2020, 7:29 pm #259
(16 Jan 2020, 5:59 pm)Dan Not the plan at all.

Route branding is being rationalised and not used to the extent it was in years gone by, but the main effort now is to keep all brands within a "house style".

The new "house style", i.e. a two-tone livery with "road-stripes" (at a 55-degree angle - a la 55 degrees north!) separating them, was designed by Beacon Creative (not Best Impressions as suggested a few posts earlier).

The logic is that if all brands are kept within one "house style", then it is more recognisable as a Go North East bus, as it will have the signature "road-stripes" to identify it as such. X-lines and Toon Tour, being special brands, have these stripes in the opposite direction, so they're still inkeeping with the main theme, but look different enough so they stand out. The idea with X-lines was also so that it could create an "X" shape, denoting the express nature of the route.
Not to mention the vehicles receiving 3/4 life repaint - Omnicites/Citaros. Wasnt this part of the reason for the likes of Whey Aye going corporate. No doubt expect to see a lot more citaros go onto corp this year?

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JP6004
16 Jan 2020, 7:29 pm #259

(16 Jan 2020, 5:59 pm)Dan Not the plan at all.

Route branding is being rationalised and not used to the extent it was in years gone by, but the main effort now is to keep all brands within a "house style".

The new "house style", i.e. a two-tone livery with "road-stripes" (at a 55-degree angle - a la 55 degrees north!) separating them, was designed by Beacon Creative (not Best Impressions as suggested a few posts earlier).

The logic is that if all brands are kept within one "house style", then it is more recognisable as a Go North East bus, as it will have the signature "road-stripes" to identify it as such. X-lines and Toon Tour, being special brands, have these stripes in the opposite direction, so they're still inkeeping with the main theme, but look different enough so they stand out. The idea with X-lines was also so that it could create an "X" shape, denoting the express nature of the route.
Not to mention the vehicles receiving 3/4 life repaint - Omnicites/Citaros. Wasnt this part of the reason for the likes of Whey Aye going corporate. No doubt expect to see a lot more citaros go onto corp this year?

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16 Jan 2020, 7:31 pm #260
(16 Jan 2020, 7:29 pm)JP6004 Not to mention the vehicles receiving 3/4 life repaint - Omnicites/Citaros. Wasnt this part of the reason for the likes of Whey Aye going corporate. No doubt expect to see a lot more citaros go onto corp this year?

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I thought the reason for the 50 going corporate was because it was just an awful brand!
streetdeckfan
16 Jan 2020, 7:31 pm #260

(16 Jan 2020, 7:29 pm)JP6004 Not to mention the vehicles receiving 3/4 life repaint - Omnicites/Citaros. Wasnt this part of the reason for the likes of Whey Aye going corporate. No doubt expect to see a lot more citaros go onto corp this year?

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I thought the reason for the 50 going corporate was because it was just an awful brand!

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