Northern (Arriva Rail North)
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(04 May 2020, 9:53 am)tyresmoke Out of interest where did you see this? I've looked through the track access applications on ORR site and can't see anything?
(04 May 2020, 9:53 am)tyresmoke Out of interest where did you see this? I've looked through the track access applications on ORR site and can't see anything?
(04 May 2020, 10:36 am)markydh https://www.networkrail.co.uk/industry-and-commercial/information-for-operators/sale-of-access-rightsThanks! I'd forgotten all about the Network Rail site with Access Rights on too. Agreed their system is terrible.
You can access the consultation documents on this page. Not easy on a phone, as they are embedded in the website and not available for download.
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(04 May 2020, 10:36 am)markydh https://www.networkrail.co.uk/industry-and-commercial/information-for-operators/sale-of-access-rightsThanks! I'd forgotten all about the Network Rail site with Access Rights on too. Agreed their system is terrible.
You can access the consultation documents on this page. Not easy on a phone, as they are embedded in the website and not available for download.
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(04 May 2020, 11:33 am)Michael I'm not that good with trains, or the certain lines, Will Sunderland see a reduction in service or an increase?Proposed increase from one to two an hour each direction. Seems to suggest one will still work across Newcastle as a Middlesbrough to Carlisle - most likely this will be skip stop up the coast so may well only call Middlesbrough, Thornaby, Hartlepool, Sunderland and Newcastle onwards to Carlisle as the existing express?
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(04 May 2020, 11:33 am)Michael I'm not that good with trains, or the certain lines, Will Sunderland see a reduction in service or an increase?Proposed increase from one to two an hour each direction. Seems to suggest one will still work across Newcastle as a Middlesbrough to Carlisle - most likely this will be skip stop up the coast so may well only call Middlesbrough, Thornaby, Hartlepool, Sunderland and Newcastle onwards to Carlisle as the existing express?
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(04 May 2020, 12:29 pm)tyresmoke Proposed increase from one to two an hour each direction. Seems to suggest one will still work across Newcastle as a Middlesbrough to Carlisle - most likely this will be skip stop up the coast so may well only call Middlesbrough, Thornaby, Hartlepool, Sunderland and Newcastle onwards to Carlisle as the existing express?
(04 May 2020, 12:29 pm)tyresmoke Proposed increase from one to two an hour each direction. Seems to suggest one will still work across Newcastle as a Middlesbrough to Carlisle - most likely this will be skip stop up the coast so may well only call Middlesbrough, Thornaby, Hartlepool, Sunderland and Newcastle onwards to Carlisle as the existing express?
(04 May 2020, 11:27 am)tyresmoke Thanks! I'd forgotten all about the Network Rail site with Access Rights on too. Agreed their system is terrible.
I've attached the file if anyone wants to have a look at it but you've got to know how to read it and how the tables work.
Seems to be just chopping up the longer distance services into smaller manageable parts - I wonder if it is perhaps an experiment to see how it works before spreading it across the rest of the network. Splitting the Hexham-Nunthorpe into three parts is an interesting move, becoming Hexham-Newcastle, Newcastle-Middlesbrough and a Middlesbrough-Nunthorpe shuttle - perhaps paving the way for the frequency increase when (if) the new Park & Ride opens at Nunthorpe.
Good to see them asking for rights for a 2nd hourly Middlesbrough-Newcastle via the Coast but I can't see anything suggesting a new ECML service?
(04 May 2020, 11:27 am)tyresmoke Thanks! I'd forgotten all about the Network Rail site with Access Rights on too. Agreed their system is terrible.
I've attached the file if anyone wants to have a look at it but you've got to know how to read it and how the tables work.
Seems to be just chopping up the longer distance services into smaller manageable parts - I wonder if it is perhaps an experiment to see how it works before spreading it across the rest of the network. Splitting the Hexham-Nunthorpe into three parts is an interesting move, becoming Hexham-Newcastle, Newcastle-Middlesbrough and a Middlesbrough-Nunthorpe shuttle - perhaps paving the way for the frequency increase when (if) the new Park & Ride opens at Nunthorpe.
Good to see them asking for rights for a 2nd hourly Middlesbrough-Newcastle via the Coast but I can't see anything suggesting a new ECML service?
The timetable changes this month see Horden (HRE) served from around midday Sunday 24th following some morning engineering works between Newcastle and Hartlepool (Pelaw and South Hylton for Metro), the station will be served by the stoppers, but not the new limited stop 1Hxx services introduced from the same date.
(04 May 2020, 2:33 pm)pbjd The timetable changes this month see Horden (HRE) served from around midday Sunday 24th following some morning engineering works between Newcastle and Hartlepool (Pelaw and South Hylton for Metro), the station will be served by the stoppers, but not the new limited stop 1Hxx services introduced from the same date.
(04 May 2020, 2:33 pm)pbjd The timetable changes this month see Horden (HRE) served from around midday Sunday 24th following some morning engineering works between Newcastle and Hartlepool (Pelaw and South Hylton for Metro), the station will be served by the stoppers, but not the new limited stop 1Hxx services introduced from the same date.
https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/se...ol-2842400
Bomb threatens thousands of pounds of improvements in Blackhall
https://m.facebook.com/pages/category/Co...ale2=en_GB
New photos of Horden Station, should be ready for services as soon as normal timetables resume.
Does anybody know if the Hordon circulars are being diverted into the station or any other bus connections? Will be interesting to see how it impacts the coastal bus services.
(04 May 2020, 12:29 pm)tyresmoke Proposed increase from one to two an hour each direction. Seems to suggest one will still work across Newcastle as a Middlesbrough to Carlisle - most likely this will be skip stop up the coast so may well only call Middlesbrough, Thornaby, Hartlepool, Sunderland and Newcastle onwards to Carlisle as the existing express?
(04 May 2020, 12:29 pm)tyresmoke Proposed increase from one to two an hour each direction. Seems to suggest one will still work across Newcastle as a Middlesbrough to Carlisle - most likely this will be skip stop up the coast so may well only call Middlesbrough, Thornaby, Hartlepool, Sunderland and Newcastle onwards to Carlisle as the existing express?
(29 Jun 2020, 11:42 pm)Michael Will these changes still happen in December, due to Covid-19?Yes I believe they are due to go ahead in December, being delayed from May introduction.
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(30 Jun 2020, 10:25 am)Michael That's good to hear, glad they're still going ahead, i take it, they'll still use 150/153/155/156's?Just 156/158s. 150/153/155 don’t operate from Heaton.
(30 Jun 2020, 10:25 am)Michael That's good to hear, glad they're still going ahead, i take it, they'll still use 150/153/155/156's?Just 156/158s. 150/153/155 don’t operate from Heaton.
I've noticed more and more 4 car sets working locally recently. I get why they're doing it, but does anyone know if the stock is spare or recent arrivals from Yorkshire or the NW?
I've not kept track of what is paired up with what and with the fluid movements between depots, it woul probably be an exercise in pointlessness
(02 Jul 2020, 3:51 pm)Andreos1 I've noticed more and more 4 car sets working locally recently. I get why they're doing it, but does anyone know if the stock is spare or recent arrivals from Yorkshire or the NW?
I've not kept track of what is paired up with what and with the fluid movements between depots, it woul probably be an exercise in pointlessness
(02 Jul 2020, 3:51 pm)Andreos1 I've noticed more and more 4 car sets working locally recently. I get why they're doing it, but does anyone know if the stock is spare or recent arrivals from Yorkshire or the NW?
I've not kept track of what is paired up with what and with the fluid movements between depots, it woul probably be an exercise in pointlessness
(02 Jul 2020, 4:37 pm)Jimmi Think it's a result of reduced timetables, likes of Saltburn & Newcastle to Carlisle services are running hourly instead of two services an hour at present.
(02 Jul 2020, 4:37 pm)Jimmi Think it's a result of reduced timetables, likes of Saltburn & Newcastle to Carlisle services are running hourly instead of two services an hour at present.
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