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Andreos1



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05 Feb 2016, 5:45 pm #441
An announcemnt has been made about re-opening the Tyne Valley line.
Not too long at all by the sounds of it!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
05 Feb 2016, 5:45 pm #441

An announcemnt has been made about re-opening the Tyne Valley line.
Not too long at all by the sounds of it!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1



14,240
06 Feb 2016, 2:51 pm #442
(05 Feb 2016, 5:33 pm)South Tyne Lad The LED Destination Screens are being fitted to all Heaton 156s as part of there PRM-TSI Modifications ( DDA for trains ) aswell as a accessible Toilet, Door Release alarms, Passenger Info Screens -
New Carpets, and Accessible Handrails.


Whilst the Tyne Valley is shut between Riding Mill and Hexham, The 156s allocated to Tyne Valley Diagrams will be used on other diagrams instead of 142s and so the 156s everyones seen the past few weeks is because of the Tyne Valley being cut in half and is not counted as rare

Noted today.
Not the best photo unfortunately.
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Andreos1
06 Feb 2016, 2:51 pm #442

(05 Feb 2016, 5:33 pm)South Tyne Lad The LED Destination Screens are being fitted to all Heaton 156s as part of there PRM-TSI Modifications ( DDA for trains ) aswell as a accessible Toilet, Door Release alarms, Passenger Info Screens -
New Carpets, and Accessible Handrails.


Whilst the Tyne Valley is shut between Riding Mill and Hexham, The 156s allocated to Tyne Valley Diagrams will be used on other diagrams instead of 142s and so the 156s everyones seen the past few weeks is because of the Tyne Valley being cut in half and is not counted as rare

Noted today.
Not the best photo unfortunately.

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Bus_User



101
08 Feb 2016, 12:43 am #443
(05 Feb 2016, 5:33 pm)South Tyne Lad The LED Destination Screens are being fitted to all Heaton 156s as part of there PRM-TSI Modifications ( DDA for trains ) aswell as a accessible Toilet, Door Release alarms, Passenger Info Screens -
New Carpets, and Accessible Handrails.

Whilst the Tyne Valley is shut between Riding Mill and Hexham, The 156s allocated to Tyne Valley Diagrams will be used on other diagrams instead of 142s and so the 156s everyones seen the past few weeks is because of the Tyne Valley being cut in half and is not counted as rare

I can definately confirm the former is not the case as the carpets are the same as when Northern's refresh programme took place whilst from my experiences, I have not seen any new accessible handrails. 

Got to say the text on the LED blinds are too small, whilst they are an improvment on the current roller blinds(which often are too hard too see cos of dirt covering the screen), I feel they could be better and should be more like ScotRails are, bold and clear and be able to scroll so having a destination of "Newcastle Cent"(which does not even fully fit) does not look right too me. Dread too think what they put for Middlesbrough for example!
Bus_User
08 Feb 2016, 12:43 am #443

(05 Feb 2016, 5:33 pm)South Tyne Lad The LED Destination Screens are being fitted to all Heaton 156s as part of there PRM-TSI Modifications ( DDA for trains ) aswell as a accessible Toilet, Door Release alarms, Passenger Info Screens -
New Carpets, and Accessible Handrails.

Whilst the Tyne Valley is shut between Riding Mill and Hexham, The 156s allocated to Tyne Valley Diagrams will be used on other diagrams instead of 142s and so the 156s everyones seen the past few weeks is because of the Tyne Valley being cut in half and is not counted as rare

I can definately confirm the former is not the case as the carpets are the same as when Northern's refresh programme took place whilst from my experiences, I have not seen any new accessible handrails. 

Got to say the text on the LED blinds are too small, whilst they are an improvment on the current roller blinds(which often are too hard too see cos of dirt covering the screen), I feel they could be better and should be more like ScotRails are, bold and clear and be able to scroll so having a destination of "Newcastle Cent"(which does not even fully fit) does not look right too me. Dread too think what they put for Middlesbrough for example!

Jimmi



10,972
08 Feb 2016, 12:59 am #444
(08 Feb 2016, 12:43 am)Bus_User I can definately confirm the former is not the case as the carpets are the same as when Northern's refresh programme took place whilst from my experiences, I have not seen any new accessible handrails. 

Got to say the text on the LED blinds are too small, whilst they are an improvment on the current roller blinds(which often are too hard too see cos of dirt covering the screen), I feel they could be better and should be more like ScotRails are, bold and clear and be able to scroll so having a destination of "Newcastle Cent"(which does not even fully fit) does not look right too me. Dread too think what they put for Middlesbrough for example!

Got to admit having seen some 156's with their new LED blinds, I have to say I don't like them and in some ways I actually find them harder to read than the roller blinds, the thin text especially makes it hard to read and I don't really have any problems with my eyesight either.
Jimmi
08 Feb 2016, 12:59 am #444

(08 Feb 2016, 12:43 am)Bus_User I can definately confirm the former is not the case as the carpets are the same as when Northern's refresh programme took place whilst from my experiences, I have not seen any new accessible handrails. 

Got to say the text on the LED blinds are too small, whilst they are an improvment on the current roller blinds(which often are too hard too see cos of dirt covering the screen), I feel they could be better and should be more like ScotRails are, bold and clear and be able to scroll so having a destination of "Newcastle Cent"(which does not even fully fit) does not look right too me. Dread too think what they put for Middlesbrough for example!

Got to admit having seen some 156's with their new LED blinds, I have to say I don't like them and in some ways I actually find them harder to read than the roller blinds, the thin text especially makes it hard to read and I don't really have any problems with my eyesight either.

S813 FVK



6,030
08 Feb 2016, 7:57 am #445
The Tyne Valley Line has now reopened and trains are able to run direct from Newcastle to Carlisle.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35495699
Edited 08 Feb 2016, 7:58 am by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
08 Feb 2016, 7:57 am #445

The Tyne Valley Line has now reopened and trains are able to run direct from Newcastle to Carlisle.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35495699

08 Feb 2016, 4:18 pm #446
(08 Feb 2016, 12:43 am)Bus_User I can definately confirm the former is not the case as the carpets are the same as when Northern's refresh programme took place whilst from my experiences, I have not seen any new accessible handrails. 

Got to say the text on the LED blinds are too small, whilst they are an improvment on the current roller blinds(which often are too hard too see cos of dirt covering the screen), I feel they could be better and should be more like ScotRails are, bold and clear and be able to scroll so having a destination of "Newcastle Cent"(which does not even fully fit) does not look right too me. Dread too think what they put for Middlesbrough for example!

The Accessible Handrails are on the Doors and are longer than the Originals for Disability Access. And are also painted in Purple to comply with PRM-TSI

The carpets were replaced in the refresh programme but if any carpets needs replacing in this programme, They will be replaced.
Edited 08 Feb 2016, 4:20 pm by South Tyne Lad.
South Tyne Lad
08 Feb 2016, 4:18 pm #446

(08 Feb 2016, 12:43 am)Bus_User I can definately confirm the former is not the case as the carpets are the same as when Northern's refresh programme took place whilst from my experiences, I have not seen any new accessible handrails. 

Got to say the text on the LED blinds are too small, whilst they are an improvment on the current roller blinds(which often are too hard too see cos of dirt covering the screen), I feel they could be better and should be more like ScotRails are, bold and clear and be able to scroll so having a destination of "Newcastle Cent"(which does not even fully fit) does not look right too me. Dread too think what they put for Middlesbrough for example!

The Accessible Handrails are on the Doors and are longer than the Originals for Disability Access. And are also painted in Purple to comply with PRM-TSI

The carpets were replaced in the refresh programme but if any carpets needs replacing in this programme, They will be replaced.

MrFozz

Marxista Fozzski

5,562
08 Feb 2016, 4:56 pm #447
(05 Feb 2016, 4:24 pm)Jimmi 156463 was on today. Complete with electronic destination screens.
[Image: 24539242670_7086b066c7.jpg]Northern Rail: 156463 by Jimmi's Transport Photos, on Flickr
Loving your pics Jimmster...

Your getting good at this photography lark
MrFozz
08 Feb 2016, 4:56 pm #447

(05 Feb 2016, 4:24 pm)Jimmi 156463 was on today. Complete with electronic destination screens.
[Image: 24539242670_7086b066c7.jpg]Northern Rail: 156463 by Jimmi's Transport Photos, on Flickr
Loving your pics Jimmster...

Your getting good at this photography lark

Jimmi



10,972
08 Feb 2016, 4:59 pm #448
(08 Feb 2016, 4:56 pm)MrFozz Loving your pics Jimmster...

Your getting good at this photography lark
Cheers mate!
Jimmi
08 Feb 2016, 4:59 pm #448

(08 Feb 2016, 4:56 pm)MrFozz Loving your pics Jimmster...

Your getting good at this photography lark
Cheers mate!

ted320

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08 Feb 2016, 8:52 pm #449
As a regular user of the Durham Coast Line, I have to say the new automated announcements on the 156's are awful! Its information overload, especially when there are only a few minutes between stops. Are the automated announcements a DDA requirement too?
ted320
08 Feb 2016, 8:52 pm #449

As a regular user of the Durham Coast Line, I have to say the new automated announcements on the 156's are awful! Its information overload, especially when there are only a few minutes between stops. Are the automated announcements a DDA requirement too?

Bus_User



101
09 Feb 2016, 8:59 am #450
(08 Feb 2016, 8:52 pm)ted320 As a regular user of the Durham Coast Line, I have to say the new automated announcements on the 156's are awful!  Its information overload, especially when there are only a few minutes between stops.  Are the automated announcements a DDA requirement too?

It is information overload indeed and I still prefer the way of the guard telling us about the safety notices that most passengers don't even care about than the automated system blabbering on about such stuff.

Anyways just wondering, the new franchise says all existing stock(excluding the pacers and any units going off lease 323's for example) is planning on undergoing a refurbishment, I presume these DDA's improvements are just that and not an actual refurbishment?
Bus_User
09 Feb 2016, 8:59 am #450

(08 Feb 2016, 8:52 pm)ted320 As a regular user of the Durham Coast Line, I have to say the new automated announcements on the 156's are awful!  Its information overload, especially when there are only a few minutes between stops.  Are the automated announcements a DDA requirement too?

It is information overload indeed and I still prefer the way of the guard telling us about the safety notices that most passengers don't even care about than the automated system blabbering on about such stuff.

Anyways just wondering, the new franchise says all existing stock(excluding the pacers and any units going off lease 323's for example) is planning on undergoing a refurbishment, I presume these DDA's improvements are just that and not an actual refurbishment?

Andreos1



14,240
09 Feb 2016, 1:32 pm #451
(08 Feb 2016, 8:52 pm)ted320 As a regular user of the Durham Coast Line, I have to say the new automated announcements on the 156's are awful! Its information overload, especially when there are only a few minutes between stops. Are the automated announcements a DDA requirement too?

I experienced it for the first time at the weekend and the section between Boro and Hartlepool was painful. No more painful than bus NSA's mind.
Beyond there, no issue - apart from the screens being stuck on the Sunderland cycle, despite being well past Sunderland.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
09 Feb 2016, 1:32 pm #451

(08 Feb 2016, 8:52 pm)ted320 As a regular user of the Durham Coast Line, I have to say the new automated announcements on the 156's are awful! Its information overload, especially when there are only a few minutes between stops. Are the automated announcements a DDA requirement too?

I experienced it for the first time at the weekend and the section between Boro and Hartlepool was painful. No more painful than bus NSA's mind.
Beyond there, no issue - apart from the screens being stuck on the Sunderland cycle, despite being well past Sunderland.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

09 Feb 2016, 5:02 pm #452
(09 Feb 2016, 8:59 am)Bus_User It is information overload indeed and I still prefer the way of the guard telling us about the safety notices that most passengers don't even care about than the automated system blabbering on about such stuff.

Anyways just wondering, the new franchise says all existing stock(excluding the pacers and any units going off lease 323's for example) is planning on undergoing a refurbishment, I presume these DDA's improvements are just that and not an actual refurbishment?

Yes the Heaton 156s are the second type of Northern Units to undergo PRM-TSI ( Not DDA ) and the Info Displays and Safety Announcements are a requirement of PRM-TSI.

Arriva will Overhual the whole unit, From the Wheels upwards and a Major interior refurbishment though the PRM-TSI Improvements will remain in the Train.
South Tyne Lad
09 Feb 2016, 5:02 pm #452

(09 Feb 2016, 8:59 am)Bus_User It is information overload indeed and I still prefer the way of the guard telling us about the safety notices that most passengers don't even care about than the automated system blabbering on about such stuff.

Anyways just wondering, the new franchise says all existing stock(excluding the pacers and any units going off lease 323's for example) is planning on undergoing a refurbishment, I presume these DDA's improvements are just that and not an actual refurbishment?

Yes the Heaton 156s are the second type of Northern Units to undergo PRM-TSI ( Not DDA ) and the Info Displays and Safety Announcements are a requirement of PRM-TSI.

Arriva will Overhual the whole unit, From the Wheels upwards and a Major interior refurbishment though the PRM-TSI Improvements will remain in the Train.

James101



652
09 Feb 2016, 5:35 pm #453
(05 Feb 2016, 5:33 pm)South Tyne Lad The LED Destination Screens are being fitted to all Heaton 156s as part of there PRM-TSI Modifications ( DDA for trains ) aswell as a accessible Toilet, Door Release alarms, Passenger Info Screens -
New Carpets, and Accessible Handrails.

Whilst the Tyne Valley is shut between Riding Mill and Hexham, The 156s allocated to Tyne Valley Diagrams will be used on other diagrams instead of 142s and so the 156s everyones seen the past few weeks is because of the Tyne Valley being cut in half and is not counted as rare

I would have though the best thing for visability for al users would be to incorperate a side mounted display by the passenger doors as per a Voyager or Pendalino unit.
James101
09 Feb 2016, 5:35 pm #453

(05 Feb 2016, 5:33 pm)South Tyne Lad The LED Destination Screens are being fitted to all Heaton 156s as part of there PRM-TSI Modifications ( DDA for trains ) aswell as a accessible Toilet, Door Release alarms, Passenger Info Screens -
New Carpets, and Accessible Handrails.

Whilst the Tyne Valley is shut between Riding Mill and Hexham, The 156s allocated to Tyne Valley Diagrams will be used on other diagrams instead of 142s and so the 156s everyones seen the past few weeks is because of the Tyne Valley being cut in half and is not counted as rare

I would have though the best thing for visability for al users would be to incorperate a side mounted display by the passenger doors as per a Voyager or Pendalino unit.

Michael



19,175
11 Feb 2016, 8:35 am #454
Once again my Northern train from Sunderland to Newcastle is not a pacer...thank god!

Do not ask me what it is because i know nothing about trains... Wink

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Feb 2016, 8:35 am #454

Once again my Northern train from Sunderland to Newcastle is not a pacer...thank god!

Do not ask me what it is because i know nothing about trains... Wink


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Andreos1



14,240
11 Feb 2016, 11:28 am #455
(11 Feb 2016, 8:35 am)Michael Once again my Northern train from Sunderland to Newcastle is not a pacer...thank god!

Do not ask me what it is because i know nothing about trains... Wink

Probably a 156 (the first 3 digits n the cab end are the giveaway), although a 158 was sighted on a Carlisle to Newcastle run yesterday.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
11 Feb 2016, 11:28 am #455

(11 Feb 2016, 8:35 am)Michael Once again my Northern train from Sunderland to Newcastle is not a pacer...thank god!

Do not ask me what it is because i know nothing about trains... Wink

Probably a 156 (the first 3 digits n the cab end are the giveaway), although a 158 was sighted on a Carlisle to Newcastle run yesterday.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Diamond One

Banned

1,793
11 Feb 2016, 3:41 pm #456
(11 Feb 2016, 8:35 am)Michael Once again my Northern train from Sunderland to Newcastle is not a pacer...thank god!

Do not ask me what it is because i know nothing about trains... Wink

They do the odd run the sprinters much prefer them over a pacer any day of the week
Diamond One
11 Feb 2016, 3:41 pm #456

(11 Feb 2016, 8:35 am)Michael Once again my Northern train from Sunderland to Newcastle is not a pacer...thank god!

Do not ask me what it is because i know nothing about trains... Wink

They do the odd run the sprinters much prefer them over a pacer any day of the week

Diamond One

Banned

1,793
11 Feb 2016, 3:43 pm #457
Got a nice high viz jacket from Northern Rail soon to be a rare item
Diamond One
11 Feb 2016, 3:43 pm #457

Got a nice high viz jacket from Northern Rail soon to be a rare item

Michael



19,175
11 Feb 2016, 4:27 pm #458
16:30pm from Newcastle to Sunderland is a Pacer.... -.-

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Feb 2016, 4:27 pm #458

16:30pm from Newcastle to Sunderland is a Pacer.... -.-


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

citaro5284



3,233
11 Feb 2016, 4:30 pm #459
(11 Feb 2016, 4:27 pm)Michael 16:30pm from Newcastle to Sunderland is a Pacer.... -.-

Well I had to suffer one from Carlisle to Newcastle yesterday, so you can suffer one today
citaro5284
11 Feb 2016, 4:30 pm #459

(11 Feb 2016, 4:27 pm)Michael 16:30pm from Newcastle to Sunderland is a Pacer.... -.-

Well I had to suffer one from Carlisle to Newcastle yesterday, so you can suffer one today

Michael



19,175
11 Feb 2016, 4:35 pm #460
(11 Feb 2016, 4:30 pm)citaro5284 Well I had to suffer one from Carlisle to Newcastle yesterday, so you can suffer one today

God, i would to be stuck on it for that long

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Feb 2016, 4:35 pm #460

(11 Feb 2016, 4:30 pm)citaro5284 Well I had to suffer one from Carlisle to Newcastle yesterday, so you can suffer one today

God, i would to be stuck on it for that long


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

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