Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Northern (Arriva Rail North)
One thing I have noticed over the last few weeks is a white sticker that is placed on any Northern signage on the train, such as posters.
Email addresses aren't covered.
The white stickers have also appeared at Northern managed stations.
Local tpe logos such as the West Yorks Metro and Tees Valley remain.
(30 Mar 2016, 4:31 pm)Andreos1 One thing I have noticed over the last few weeks is a white sticker that is placed on any Northern signage on the train, such as posters.
Email addresses aren't covered.
The white stickers have also appeared at Northern managed stations.
Local tpe logos such as the West Yorks Metro and Tees Valley remain.
(30 Mar 2016, 4:31 pm)Andreos1 One thing I have noticed over the last few weeks is a white sticker that is placed on any Northern signage on the train, such as posters.
Email addresses aren't covered.
The white stickers have also appeared at Northern managed stations.
Local tpe logos such as the West Yorks Metro and Tees Valley remain.
(30 Mar 2016, 4:36 pm)Andreos1 And new literature too I would hope!
(30 Mar 2016, 9:08 am)8222 Good morning all,
I was wondering if anyone knows if there's going to be a new livery for the new Northern franchise? If so, does anyone know if they have a unit under wraps waiting to be unveiled?
(30 Mar 2016, 9:08 am)8222 Good morning all,
I was wondering if anyone knows if there's going to be a new livery for the new Northern franchise? If so, does anyone know if they have a unit under wraps waiting to be unveiled?
(30 Mar 2016, 4:57 pm)TEN 6083 https://flic.kr/p/FnUtn3
Might be similar to this one that's operating in Yorkshire
(30 Mar 2016, 4:57 pm)TEN 6083 https://flic.kr/p/FnUtn3
Might be similar to this one that's operating in Yorkshire
(30 Mar 2016, 4:31 pm)Andreos1 One thing I have noticed over the last few weeks is a white sticker that is placed on any Northern signage on the train, such as posters.
Email addresses aren't covered.
The white stickers have also appeared at Northern managed stations.
Local tpe logos such as the West Yorks Metro and Tees Valley remain.
(30 Mar 2016, 4:36 pm)Andreos1 And new literature too I would hope!
(30 Mar 2016, 4:31 pm)Andreos1 One thing I have noticed over the last few weeks is a white sticker that is placed on any Northern signage on the train, such as posters.
Email addresses aren't covered.
The white stickers have also appeared at Northern managed stations.
Local tpe logos such as the West Yorks Metro and Tees Valley remain.
(30 Mar 2016, 4:36 pm)Andreos1 And new literature too I would hope!
(30 Mar 2016, 4:56 pm)northern156 In what sense?
(30 Mar 2016, 5:20 pm)Adrian It's a difficult one. Companies obviously use their own FQDN for email addressing, and you wouldn't expect anything less. The incoming franchisee isn't providing customer services until the start of the contract, and the incumbent is expected to provide it until the end. Customers need to know where to write to. I'd imagine their customer services email address with the northernrail.org FQDN would be forwarded to the new address, for a set period of time.
I'd hope new timetables and such will be printed for the start of the franchise. You can't stick a little white sticker over every single timetable, so they've not much choice really. I can't recall whether Virgin had theirs ready for the ECML on day 1 or not?
(30 Mar 2016, 4:56 pm)northern156 In what sense?
(30 Mar 2016, 5:20 pm)Adrian It's a difficult one. Companies obviously use their own FQDN for email addressing, and you wouldn't expect anything less. The incoming franchisee isn't providing customer services until the start of the contract, and the incumbent is expected to provide it until the end. Customers need to know where to write to. I'd imagine their customer services email address with the northernrail.org FQDN would be forwarded to the new address, for a set period of time.
I'd hope new timetables and such will be printed for the start of the franchise. You can't stick a little white sticker over every single timetable, so they've not much choice really. I can't recall whether Virgin had theirs ready for the ECML on day 1 or not?
Pretty much guaranteed that a new livery will be introduced but only on new and refurbished units... So basically the current fleet will gain it as they go through the major refurbishment so that they meet the spec for the new franchise (none of the units do as things stand at day one...!). The new units will be delivered in the new livery obviously. I'm intrigued to see what it will look like, but don't forget they have the Northern Connect brand for longer distance services also.
(31 Mar 2016, 2:54 pm)tyresmoke Pretty much guaranteed that a new livery will be introduced but only on new and refurbished units... So basically the current fleet will gain it as they go through the major refurbishment so that they meet the spec for the new franchise (none of the units do as things stand at day one...!). The new units will be delivered in the new livery obviously. I'm intrigued to see what it will look like, but don't forget they have the Northern Connect brand for longer distance services also.
(31 Mar 2016, 2:54 pm)tyresmoke Pretty much guaranteed that a new livery will be introduced but only on new and refurbished units... So basically the current fleet will gain it as they go through the major refurbishment so that they meet the spec for the new franchise (none of the units do as things stand at day one...!). The new units will be delivered in the new livery obviously. I'm intrigued to see what it will look like, but don't forget they have the Northern Connect brand for longer distance services also.
(31 Mar 2016, 2:57 pm)South Tyne Lad I'm led to believe that the new livery is going to be similar to Arriva Trains Wales's Livery. ( Standard livery, Not Northern Connect )
(31 Mar 2016, 2:57 pm)South Tyne Lad I'm led to believe that the new livery is going to be similar to Arriva Trains Wales's Livery. ( Standard livery, Not Northern Connect )
(31 Mar 2016, 3:25 pm)northern156 Where did you find this out? I've not seen any single mention of the new livery.
(31 Mar 2016, 3:25 pm)northern156 Where did you find this out? I've not seen any single mention of the new livery.
(11 Apr 2016, 7:12 pm)Andreos1 Caught a Northern 156 with the NSA's for the first time since the new franchise started.
The NSA's haven't been re-recorded. However the 'Rail' from Northern Rail days has been edited out.
(11 Apr 2016, 7:12 pm)Andreos1 Caught a Northern 156 with the NSA's for the first time since the new franchise started.
The NSA's haven't been re-recorded. However the 'Rail' from Northern Rail days has been edited out.
(11 Apr 2016, 8:51 pm)northern156 Not been on one yet to try it, but is the editing out of 'Rail' noticeable?
Wish they would get rid of 'Central' from Newcastle though; it's shoddy and unprofessional.
(11 Apr 2016, 8:51 pm)northern156 Not been on one yet to try it, but is the editing out of 'Rail' noticeable?
Wish they would get rid of 'Central' from Newcastle though; it's shoddy and unprofessional.
(11 Apr 2016, 9:05 pm)Andreos1 Yeah it is pretty noticeable.
Not the best editing job in the world.
I can't replicate it fully but it goes something like 'This is your Northern R service to...'
(11 Apr 2016, 9:05 pm)Andreos1 Yeah it is pretty noticeable.
Not the best editing job in the world.
I can't replicate it fully but it goes something like 'This is your Northern R service to...'
(11 Apr 2016, 8:51 pm)northern156 Not been on one yet to try it, but is the editing out of 'Rail' noticeable?
Wish they would get rid of 'Central' from Newcastle though; it's shoddy and unprofessional.
(11 Apr 2016, 8:51 pm)northern156 Not been on one yet to try it, but is the editing out of 'Rail' noticeable?
Wish they would get rid of 'Central' from Newcastle though; it's shoddy and unprofessional.
(11 Apr 2016, 10:33 pm)Bus_User I still don't understand why they put "central" in their new electronic displays on the front, especially seeing as they don't actually fit the whole screen nor does it scroll!
Speaking of the displays for me, how can they be approved for DDA standards when the text on them are so small!? Carlisle is really tiny and surely can't be seen from a distance, why oh why have they not followed the Scotrail idea of having big bold text and in any larger destinations, they actually scroll!
(11 Apr 2016, 10:33 pm)Bus_User I still don't understand why they put "central" in their new electronic displays on the front, especially seeing as they don't actually fit the whole screen nor does it scroll!
Speaking of the displays for me, how can they be approved for DDA standards when the text on them are so small!? Carlisle is really tiny and surely can't be seen from a distance, why oh why have they not followed the Scotrail idea of having big bold text and in any larger destinations, they actually scroll!
(11 Apr 2016, 9:19 pm)northern156 Just re-iterates my 'shoddy and unprofessional' speech above..!
(12 Apr 2016, 2:08 am)northern156 You're quite right. Regarding Newcastle, it is not used anywhere else in the industry as 'Central'; it is merely a local term. The Metro uses it but as a different version (ie dropping 'Newcastle').
They're the same displays (both interior and exterior) as the recent Class 319 refurbishment so there have been a fair few bought and used - surely they would be DDA compliant etc although I wouldn't hold my breath...
(11 Apr 2016, 9:19 pm)northern156 Just re-iterates my 'shoddy and unprofessional' speech above..!
(12 Apr 2016, 2:08 am)northern156 You're quite right. Regarding Newcastle, it is not used anywhere else in the industry as 'Central'; it is merely a local term. The Metro uses it but as a different version (ie dropping 'Newcastle').
They're the same displays (both interior and exterior) as the recent Class 319 refurbishment so there have been a fair few bought and used - surely they would be DDA compliant etc although I wouldn't hold my breath...