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Andreos1



14,155
12 Jun 2018, 12:31 pm #721
(12 Jun 2018, 12:03 pm)S813 FVK ScotRail 156s now do a lot more in North East than just the runs along the Tyne Valley Line up to Glasgow, see link to railforums.co.uk below:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/fre...st-3472720

Thanks for signposting.

I've copied the text for future reference.

Quote:The following Northern services in the North East of England are now operated by ScotRail 156s: (Monday - Friday)
Unit 1:
1S50 06:30 Newcastle - Glasgow Central via Carlisle
Unit 2:
2N16 08:03 Carlisle - Nunthorpe
2W27 11:18 Nunthorpe - Hexham
2W30 13:57 Hexham - Newcastle
2A26 16:19 Newcastle - Morpeth
2N27 16:52 Morpeth - Carlisle
Unit 3:
1E97 16:13 Glasgow Central - Newcastle
Unit stables Heaton, then operates the following day's 1S50 06:30 Newcastle - Glasgow Central.

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Andreos1
12 Jun 2018, 12:31 pm #721

(12 Jun 2018, 12:03 pm)S813 FVK ScotRail 156s now do a lot more in North East than just the runs along the Tyne Valley Line up to Glasgow, see link to railforums.co.uk below:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/fre...st-3472720

Thanks for signposting.

I've copied the text for future reference.

Quote:The following Northern services in the North East of England are now operated by ScotRail 156s: (Monday - Friday)
Unit 1:
1S50 06:30 Newcastle - Glasgow Central via Carlisle
Unit 2:
2N16 08:03 Carlisle - Nunthorpe
2W27 11:18 Nunthorpe - Hexham
2W30 13:57 Hexham - Newcastle
2A26 16:19 Newcastle - Morpeth
2N27 16:52 Morpeth - Carlisle
Unit 3:
1E97 16:13 Glasgow Central - Newcastle
Unit stables Heaton, then operates the following day's 1S50 06:30 Newcastle - Glasgow Central.


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pdiddy



264
05 Jul 2018, 5:11 pm #722
156480 looks well in its new livery
pdiddy
05 Jul 2018, 5:11 pm #722

156480 looks well in its new livery

Andreos1



14,155
05 Jul 2018, 5:44 pm #723
(05 Jul 2018, 5:11 pm)pdiddy 156480 looks well in its new livery

https://mobile.twitter.com/northernassis...12?lang=en

I havent seen it in the flesh yet.

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Andreos1
05 Jul 2018, 5:44 pm #723

(05 Jul 2018, 5:11 pm)pdiddy 156480 looks well in its new livery

https://mobile.twitter.com/northernassis...12?lang=en

I havent seen it in the flesh yet.


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Andreos1



14,155
18 Jul 2018, 12:57 pm #724
I am guessing, although not 100% sure, that the last timetable re-cast has seen the Middlesbrough - Whitby trains run on to and off other services now, rather than seemingly operate as stand-alone services like they often did in the past.

As an example, the ex-Whitby arr Middlesbrough 1330, now appears to form the the 1335 to Hexham.
The arrival in to Middlesbrough at 1355 forms the 1400 to Whitby (appreciate timings may be slightly out, used approximation).

Obviously this helps if you want to get or avoid certain stock.

I've never noticed this before, but happy to stand corrected that it has been like this for a longer period than I thought.

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Andreos1
18 Jul 2018, 12:57 pm #724

I am guessing, although not 100% sure, that the last timetable re-cast has seen the Middlesbrough - Whitby trains run on to and off other services now, rather than seemingly operate as stand-alone services like they often did in the past.

As an example, the ex-Whitby arr Middlesbrough 1330, now appears to form the the 1335 to Hexham.
The arrival in to Middlesbrough at 1355 forms the 1400 to Whitby (appreciate timings may be slightly out, used approximation).

Obviously this helps if you want to get or avoid certain stock.

I've never noticed this before, but happy to stand corrected that it has been like this for a longer period than I thought.


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S830OFT



1,395
06 Feb 2019, 5:34 pm #725
Great News from the 16th...
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teess...g-15791382


S830OFT
06 Feb 2019, 5:34 pm #725

Great News from the 16th...
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teess...g-15791382



Malarkey



6,060
20 Feb 2019, 9:37 pm #726
I forgot to mention Northern were mentioned on Look North last week regarding the withdrawal of the pacers and how this may not be done as they have no replacements on order or sourced yet, it was also mentioned it would be illegal per new legislation coming into place for them to operate come 2020.

Having had a bit of think, unsure if they'll be available once the Azumas all enter service for LNER but what about shorter units of Class 43's or have the Class 43's on Cross Country with Voyagers moving over onto Northern Rail Services.
Edited 20 Feb 2019, 9:40 pm by Malarkey.
Malarkey
20 Feb 2019, 9:37 pm #726

I forgot to mention Northern were mentioned on Look North last week regarding the withdrawal of the pacers and how this may not be done as they have no replacements on order or sourced yet, it was also mentioned it would be illegal per new legislation coming into place for them to operate come 2020.

Having had a bit of think, unsure if they'll be available once the Azumas all enter service for LNER but what about shorter units of Class 43's or have the Class 43's on Cross Country with Voyagers moving over onto Northern Rail Services.

S830OFT



1,395
20 Feb 2019, 10:42 pm #727
(20 Feb 2019, 9:37 pm)Malarkey I forgot to mention Northern were mentioned on Look North last week regarding the withdrawal of the pacers and how this may not be done as they have no replacements on order or sourced yet, it was also mentioned it would be illegal per new legislation coming into place for them to operate come 2020.

Having had a bit of think, unsure if they'll be available once the Azumas all enter service for LNER but what about shorter units of Class 43's or have the Class 43's on Cross Country with Voyagers moving over onto Northern Rail Services.

VTEC could always give the 43s to ScotRail, allowing Class 156s to move North...


S830OFT
20 Feb 2019, 10:42 pm #727

(20 Feb 2019, 9:37 pm)Malarkey I forgot to mention Northern were mentioned on Look North last week regarding the withdrawal of the pacers and how this may not be done as they have no replacements on order or sourced yet, it was also mentioned it would be illegal per new legislation coming into place for them to operate come 2020.

Having had a bit of think, unsure if they'll be available once the Azumas all enter service for LNER but what about shorter units of Class 43's or have the Class 43's on Cross Country with Voyagers moving over onto Northern Rail Services.

VTEC could always give the 43s to ScotRail, allowing Class 156s to move North...



21 Feb 2019, 8:12 am #728
(20 Feb 2019, 10:42 pm)S830OFT VTEC could always give the 43s to ScotRail, allowing Class 156s to move North...

•Voyagers are for long distance and are unsuitable for any northern service as there is no demand to match the costs.
ScotRail to gain to HSTs to Replace Class 156s.
Nope
The Class 156s are used on rural services and on the Glasgow-Carlisle-Newcastle service.
Once again these are barely full and Would be a waste to stick them on the existing Class 156 Services. My god
NewcastleOne
21 Feb 2019, 8:12 am #728

(20 Feb 2019, 10:42 pm)S830OFT VTEC could always give the 43s to ScotRail, allowing Class 156s to move North...

•Voyagers are for long distance and are unsuitable for any northern service as there is no demand to match the costs.
ScotRail to gain to HSTs to Replace Class 156s.
Nope
The Class 156s are used on rural services and on the Glasgow-Carlisle-Newcastle service.
Once again these are barely full and Would be a waste to stick them on the existing Class 156 Services. My god

S813 FVK



6,030
21 Feb 2019, 9:12 am #729
Class 158s have started appearing on Tyne Valley services over the last week or so.
S813 FVK
21 Feb 2019, 9:12 am #729

Class 158s have started appearing on Tyne Valley services over the last week or so.

8222



312
21 Feb 2019, 10:26 am #730
Have any ventured to Boro?

(21 Feb 2019, 9:12 am)S813 FVK Class 158s have started appearing on Tyne Valley services over the last week or so.

Aircraft flown on:

744, 77W, 772, E145, E190, E170, E175, E195, A319, A320, A320NEO, A321, A321NEO, A330-200, A330-300, A340-600 763, 752, 733, 737, 738, CRJ900, CRJ1000
Favourite aircraft: G-STBL/G-ZBKL

8222
21 Feb 2019, 10:26 am #730

Have any ventured to Boro?

(21 Feb 2019, 9:12 am)S813 FVK Class 158s have started appearing on Tyne Valley services over the last week or so.


Aircraft flown on:

744, 77W, 772, E145, E190, E170, E175, E195, A319, A320, A320NEO, A321, A321NEO, A330-200, A330-300, A340-600 763, 752, 733, 737, 738, CRJ900, CRJ1000
Favourite aircraft: G-STBL/G-ZBKL

21 Feb 2019, 11:02 am #731
(21 Feb 2019, 10:26 am)8222 Have any ventured to Boro?
Not yet as not all train crew sign them so they only appear on Tyne Valley for the moment

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Stephen James Peter Johns
21 Feb 2019, 11:02 am #731

(21 Feb 2019, 10:26 am)8222 Have any ventured to Boro?
Not yet as not all train crew sign them so they only appear on Tyne Valley for the moment

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21 Feb 2019, 8:05 pm #732
(20 Feb 2019, 9:37 pm)Malarkey I forgot to mention Northern were mentioned on Look North last week regarding the withdrawal of the pacers and how this may not be done as they have no replacements on order or sourced yet, it was also mentioned it would be illegal per new legislation coming into place for them to operate come 2020.

Having had a bit of think, unsure if they'll be available once the Azumas all enter service for LNER but what about shorter units of Class 43's or have the Class 43's on Cross Country with Voyagers moving over onto Northern Rail Services.

Northern have a large amount of trains on order, with some already in the UK. I don't know where their information is from? There's also a continuing fleet cascade programme which is going to push out the Pacers.

You're being optimistic with the introduction of the Azuma, it'll be long beyond 2020 when the HSTs are freed up.
omnicity4659
21 Feb 2019, 8:05 pm #732

(20 Feb 2019, 9:37 pm)Malarkey I forgot to mention Northern were mentioned on Look North last week regarding the withdrawal of the pacers and how this may not be done as they have no replacements on order or sourced yet, it was also mentioned it would be illegal per new legislation coming into place for them to operate come 2020.

Having had a bit of think, unsure if they'll be available once the Azumas all enter service for LNER but what about shorter units of Class 43's or have the Class 43's on Cross Country with Voyagers moving over onto Northern Rail Services.

Northern have a large amount of trains on order, with some already in the UK. I don't know where their information is from? There's also a continuing fleet cascade programme which is going to push out the Pacers.

You're being optimistic with the introduction of the Azuma, it'll be long beyond 2020 when the HSTs are freed up.

Ryland



453
25 May 2019, 5:29 pm #733
Class 158 working between saltburn and darlington today is this going to become regular
Ryland
25 May 2019, 5:29 pm #733

Class 158 working between saltburn and darlington today is this going to become regular

25 May 2019, 5:47 pm #734
(25 May 2019, 5:29 pm)Ryland Class 158 working between saltburn and darlington today is this going to become regular

It’s going to be mainly Class 156s but it may be on the odd time depending on working but they are mainly to be used on D.Coast,ECML&Tyne V routings
NewcastleOne
25 May 2019, 5:47 pm #734

(25 May 2019, 5:29 pm)Ryland Class 158 working between saltburn and darlington today is this going to become regular

It’s going to be mainly Class 156s but it may be on the odd time depending on working but they are mainly to be used on D.Coast,ECML&Tyne V routings

Jimmi



10,966
25 May 2019, 8:10 pm #735
(25 May 2019, 5:29 pm)Ryland Class 158 working between saltburn and darlington today is this going to become regular
158845 which also saw stations along the Bishop Line including Newton Aycliffe: https://flic.kr/p/2g2jjYP
Jimmi
25 May 2019, 8:10 pm #735

(25 May 2019, 5:29 pm)Ryland Class 158 working between saltburn and darlington today is this going to become regular
158845 which also saw stations along the Bishop Line including Newton Aycliffe: https://flic.kr/p/2g2jjYP

GNE6312



1,091
27 May 2019, 4:36 pm #736
The 9:41 Northern service from newcastle to Nunthorpe was cancelled this morning due to 142091 braking down
GNE6312
27 May 2019, 4:36 pm #736

The 9:41 Northern service from newcastle to Nunthorpe was cancelled this morning due to 142091 braking down

Andreos1



14,155
03 Jun 2019, 8:04 am #737

http://www.durham.gov.uk/horden


More on Horden Station after groundbreaking last week.


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Andreos1
03 Jun 2019, 8:04 am #737

http://www.durham.gov.uk/horden


More on Horden Station after groundbreaking last week.


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Andreos1



14,155
03 Aug 2019, 11:43 am #738

I'd had my suspicions for a few weeks, but having seen it a short while back - can confirm.

There's at least one 158 operating on the Saltburn line.


Next departure from Saltburn.

Didnt get id as saw it from afar, but it has some sort of vinyl wrap.


Edit: it's 158860


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Andreos1
03 Aug 2019, 11:43 am #738

I'd had my suspicions for a few weeks, but having seen it a short while back - can confirm.

There's at least one 158 operating on the Saltburn line.


Next departure from Saltburn.

Didnt get id as saw it from afar, but it has some sort of vinyl wrap.


Edit: it's 158860


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Jimmi



10,966
03 Aug 2019, 12:18 pm #739
(03 Aug 2019, 11:43 am)Andreos1

I'd had my suspicions for a few weeks, but having seen it a short while back - can confirm.

There's at least one 158 operating on the Saltburn line.


Next departure from Saltburn.

Didnt get id as saw it from afar, but it has some sort of vinyl wrap.


Edit: it's 158860

Certainly not unheard of on the Bishop - Saltburn line now, saw it myself heading to Bishop this morning but unable to ID, 156s are very common on there now
Jimmi
03 Aug 2019, 12:18 pm #739

(03 Aug 2019, 11:43 am)Andreos1

I'd had my suspicions for a few weeks, but having seen it a short while back - can confirm.

There's at least one 158 operating on the Saltburn line.


Next departure from Saltburn.

Didnt get id as saw it from afar, but it has some sort of vinyl wrap.


Edit: it's 158860

Certainly not unheard of on the Bishop - Saltburn line now, saw it myself heading to Bishop this morning but unable to ID, 156s are very common on there now

Andreos1



14,155
03 Aug 2019, 12:31 pm #740

(03 Aug 2019, 12:18 pm)Jimmi Certainly not unheard of on the Bishop - Saltburn line now, saw it myself heading to Bishop this morning but unable to ID, 156s are very common on there now


Heard and seen plenty 156's recently - but first time I've positively id'd a 158 on the line.

A nice change to them Pacer's!



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Andreos1
03 Aug 2019, 12:31 pm #740

(03 Aug 2019, 12:18 pm)Jimmi Certainly not unheard of on the Bishop - Saltburn line now, saw it myself heading to Bishop this morning but unable to ID, 156s are very common on there now


Heard and seen plenty 156's recently - but first time I've positively id'd a 158 on the line.

A nice change to them Pacer's!



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