(23 Feb 2020, 3:01 pm)S830OFT What's happening with 6905 - 6909 when the new E400s arrive?
(23 Feb 2020, 6:49 pm)Dan In terms of a bus, I don't think there's anything out there on the market that's suitable for the X9/X10 that won't require replacement after a few years. In recent years, Go North East have had 5-litre, 7-litre and 9-litre engined buses running on these routes, and all after a few years have started facing reliability issues.
It's not too bad a business model to have - run buses for a few years on the X9/X10 then replace them once they start having issues (cascading onto less demanding routes). Ensures X9/X10 always stay at the forefront of innovation and other services reap the benefits too.
The only thing that could feasibly operate the X9/X10 services without issue would be interdeck coaches, which are a) very expensive, and b) unsuitable for the 'local' sections of the route.
Realistically I don't think Go North East would be considering replacement of these buses this year if it wasn't for the Newcastle CAZ coming into effect from January 2021. It's unusual to see more than one of these buses off the road, and now there's two dedicated spare buses (6334 & 6335), one would presume the allocation of single-deck buses will be a lot less frequent.
(23 Feb 2020, 6:49 pm)Dan In terms of a bus, I don't think there's anything out there on the market that's suitable for the X9/X10 that won't require replacement after a few years. In recent years, Go North East have had 5-litre, 7-litre and 9-litre engined buses running on these routes, and all after a few years have started facing reliability issues.
It's not too bad a business model to have - run buses for a few years on the X9/X10 then replace them once they start having issues (cascading onto less demanding routes). Ensures X9/X10 always stay at the forefront of innovation and other services reap the benefits too.
The only thing that could feasibly operate the X9/X10 services without issue would be interdeck coaches, which are a) very expensive, and b) unsuitable for the 'local' sections of the route.
Realistically I don't think Go North East would be considering replacement of these buses this year if it wasn't for the Newcastle CAZ coming into effect from January 2021. It's unusual to see more than one of these buses off the road, and now there's two dedicated spare buses (6334 & 6335), one would presume the allocation of single-deck buses will be a lot less frequent.
(23 Feb 2020, 8:09 pm)streetdeckfan Continuing on from the discussion over on the Arriva discussion...
You mention that they wouldn't be considering replacement if it wasn't for the CAZ, am I right in thinking that would that be because the B5s will need replaced shortly anyway and it makes more sense financially to update them early to cascade the B5s elsewhere rather than update other routes that need it with new vehicles and be stuck with the B5s once they're replaced later down the line?
(23 Feb 2020, 8:09 pm)streetdeckfan Continuing on from the discussion over on the Arriva discussion...
You mention that they wouldn't be considering replacement if it wasn't for the CAZ, am I right in thinking that would that be because the B5s will need replaced shortly anyway and it makes more sense financially to update them early to cascade the B5s elsewhere rather than update other routes that need it with new vehicles and be stuck with the B5s once they're replaced later down the line?
(23 Feb 2020, 9:01 pm)cbma06 When new buses arrive for the X9/X10 , The B5s from the X9/X10 supposedly be going on the X84/X85 and rebranded as Xlines
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(23 Feb 2020, 9:01 pm)cbma06 When new buses arrive for the X9/X10 , The B5s from the X9/X10 supposedly be going on the X84/X85 and rebranded as Xlines
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(23 Feb 2020, 9:41 pm)S830OFT Will the Red Arrows B9s be reallocated to the Crusader? Also if they don't get enough Euro 6 vehicles avaible, would it be a possibility to revise the 26 to be Gateshead to Shields only, with the 27 only crossing to Newcastle. End result reducing the PVR by 1.
(23 Feb 2020, 9:41 pm)S830OFT Will the Red Arrows B9s be reallocated to the Crusader? Also if they don't get enough Euro 6 vehicles avaible, would it be a possibility to revise the 26 to be Gateshead to Shields only, with the 27 only crossing to Newcastle. End result reducing the PVR by 1.
(23 Feb 2020, 9:46 pm)Dan No, just Newcastle City Centre.
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(23 Feb 2020, 9:46 pm)Dan No, just Newcastle City Centre.
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The proposals have undergone many changes since they were first announced.
DB300s in my experience are very good at handling heavy-duty work, its just the DPF filters can get clogged up quite a bit (I know it's not in production anymore). I agree the B5TL isn't good for motorway work or any high-speed interval work, 240HP and the 918nm of torque just doesn't cut it. Couple that with all the equipment onboard, tables and passengers, it will stress the vehicle when loaded thus providing a laden feeling ride.
Problem is now with all the weight-saving dribble and lower emissions ect, vehicles are nowhere what they used to be. It's a false economy as vehicles are now less reliable and need replacing/upgrading sooner.
(23 Feb 2020, 9:48 pm)streetdeckfan I'm sure it was in one of the previous proposals, either that or my memory is worse than I thought!
(23 Feb 2020, 11:37 pm)Rapidsnap The proposals have undergone many changes since they were first announced.
(23 Feb 2020, 9:48 pm)streetdeckfan I'm sure it was in one of the previous proposals, either that or my memory is worse than I thought!
(23 Feb 2020, 11:37 pm)Rapidsnap The proposals have undergone many changes since they were first announced.
(23 Feb 2020, 9:41 pm)S830OFT Will the Red Arrows B9s be reallocated to the Crusader? Also if they don't get enough Euro 6 vehicles avaible, would it be a possibility to revise the 26 to be Gateshead to Shields only, with the 27 only crossing to Newcastle. End result reducing the PVR by 1.I thought the 6/12/12A would be a good shout for Red arrow B9s , However a rumour has it that 5463-5480 are going on crusaders and deptford to get the citaros
(23 Feb 2020, 9:41 pm)S830OFT Will the Red Arrows B9s be reallocated to the Crusader? Also if they don't get enough Euro 6 vehicles avaible, would it be a possibility to revise the 26 to be Gateshead to Shields only, with the 27 only crossing to Newcastle. End result reducing the PVR by 1.I thought the 6/12/12A would be a good shout for Red arrow B9s , However a rumour has it that 5463-5480 are going on crusaders and deptford to get the citaros
How long has 5453 had that vinyl on the bottom of the front windscreen?
It looks bloody horrendous!
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(24 Feb 2020, 2:30 pm)streetdeckfan How long has 5453 had that vinyl on the bottom of the front windscreen?
It looks bloody horrendous!
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(24 Feb 2020, 2:30 pm)streetdeckfan How long has 5453 had that vinyl on the bottom of the front windscreen?
It looks bloody horrendous!
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(24 Feb 2020, 2:57 pm)BeachBoy99 What vinyl?I believe it is a promo for the £1.20 child ticket. We were driving past it and it stuck out like a big yellow sticker on a red bus!
(24 Feb 2020, 2:57 pm)BeachBoy99 What vinyl?I believe it is a promo for the £1.20 child ticket. We were driving past it and it stuck out like a big yellow sticker on a red bus!
(24 Feb 2020, 2:30 pm)streetdeckfan How long has 5453 had that vinyl on the bottom of the front windscreen?Think a few buses have recieved promos on the front windscreens over the last few days, saw a few buses going round with a yellow vinyl advertising something under the destination screen on Saturday
It looks bloody horrendous!
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(24 Feb 2020, 2:30 pm)streetdeckfan How long has 5453 had that vinyl on the bottom of the front windscreen?Think a few buses have recieved promos on the front windscreens over the last few days, saw a few buses going round with a yellow vinyl advertising something under the destination screen on Saturday
It looks bloody horrendous!
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(24 Feb 2020, 11:44 am)Citaro5326 I thought the 6/12/12A would be a good shout for Red arrow B9s , However a rumour has it that 5463-5480 are going on crusaders and deptford to get the citarosHope we are not going from a suggestion of upgrading the Crusader to double deck and then going downhill by 'upgrading' to a streetlite instead.
(24 Feb 2020, 11:44 am)Citaro5326 I thought the 6/12/12A would be a good shout for Red arrow B9s , However a rumour has it that 5463-5480 are going on crusaders and deptford to get the citarosHope we are not going from a suggestion of upgrading the Crusader to double deck and then going downhill by 'upgrading' to a streetlite instead.
(24 Feb 2020, 11:44 am)Citaro5326 I thought the 6/12/12A would be a good shout for Red arrow B9s , However a rumour has it that 5463-5480 are going on crusaders and deptford to get the citaros
(24 Feb 2020, 3:40 pm)ifm001 Hope we are not going from a suggestion of upgrading the Crusader to double deck and then going downhill by 'upgrading' to a streetlite instead.
(24 Feb 2020, 11:44 am)Citaro5326 I thought the 6/12/12A would be a good shout for Red arrow B9s , However a rumour has it that 5463-5480 are going on crusaders and deptford to get the citaros
(24 Feb 2020, 3:40 pm)ifm001 Hope we are not going from a suggestion of upgrading the Crusader to double deck and then going downhill by 'upgrading' to a streetlite instead.
