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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2020

Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2020

 
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L469 YVK



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28 Mar 2020, 1:57 pm #201
(28 Mar 2020, 11:01 am)tvd Well it may be an idea, but a terrible one IMO.

So you move double deckers away somewhere else where theyre also not needed.  Leave the other vehicles in the yard at Whitby and mothball it, presumably needing some maintenance/security staff there or risk vandalism and other issues.

Then get Stockton to run the X93's, requiring route learning.  Huge amounts of dead mileage between Stockton and Whitby each morning and evening.  You've also got the headache of either interworking the new drivers with Whitby's X4 journeys (more route learning), or add to Redcar's workload and again increasing dead mileage.

And then you've still got the only problem you mentioned, the 95's.  Unless we get Stockton drivers to come down and do those too, maybe get a busload of them at a time to show them the routes to Sleights and Lealholm?!
If anything, I would move the B9TLs temporarily to Northumbria and use them on the X14/X15/X18/X20 alongside 7529-33 & 7553-56.
L469 YVK
28 Mar 2020, 1:57 pm #201

(28 Mar 2020, 11:01 am)tvd Well it may be an idea, but a terrible one IMO.

So you move double deckers away somewhere else where theyre also not needed.  Leave the other vehicles in the yard at Whitby and mothball it, presumably needing some maintenance/security staff there or risk vandalism and other issues.

Then get Stockton to run the X93's, requiring route learning.  Huge amounts of dead mileage between Stockton and Whitby each morning and evening.  You've also got the headache of either interworking the new drivers with Whitby's X4 journeys (more route learning), or add to Redcar's workload and again increasing dead mileage.

And then you've still got the only problem you mentioned, the 95's.  Unless we get Stockton drivers to come down and do those too, maybe get a busload of them at a time to show them the routes to Sleights and Lealholm?!
If anything, I would move the B9TLs temporarily to Northumbria and use them on the X14/X15/X18/X20 alongside 7529-33 & 7553-56.

29 Mar 2020, 2:43 pm #202
(28 Mar 2020, 1:57 pm)L469 YVK If anything, I would move the B9TLs temporarily to Northumbria and use them on the X14/X15/X18/X20 alongside 7529-33 & 7553-56.

Why...?
omnicity4659
29 Mar 2020, 2:43 pm #202

(28 Mar 2020, 1:57 pm)L469 YVK If anything, I would move the B9TLs temporarily to Northumbria and use them on the X14/X15/X18/X20 alongside 7529-33 & 7553-56.

Why...?

29 Mar 2020, 2:47 pm #203
Indeed. The depots operating those routes have enough capacity to operate their reduced service levels and then if the BTL9's get moved away from the route they were intended for would they find their way back.
scanialover
29 Mar 2020, 2:47 pm #203

Indeed. The depots operating those routes have enough capacity to operate their reduced service levels and then if the BTL9's get moved away from the route they were intended for would they find their way back.

31 Mar 2020, 4:02 pm #204
Just a quick heads up for a future trip after this pandemic. Do any of Belmonts Streetlites have working plug sockets by any chance I know 1596/1600 and 1601 don't have working chargers
Citaro5338
31 Mar 2020, 4:02 pm #204

Just a quick heads up for a future trip after this pandemic. Do any of Belmonts Streetlites have working plug sockets by any chance I know 1596/1600 and 1601 don't have working chargers

Jimmi



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31 Mar 2020, 4:08 pm #205
(31 Mar 2020, 4:02 pm)Citaro5338 Just a quick heads up for a future trip after this pandemic. Do any of Belmonts Streetlites have working plug sockets by any chance I know 1596/1600 and 1601 don't have working chargers
I'd be amazed if you found any Arriva North East bus with working plug sockets tbh, very rare I catch one that does when a phone charge is required
Jimmi
31 Mar 2020, 4:08 pm #205

(31 Mar 2020, 4:02 pm)Citaro5338 Just a quick heads up for a future trip after this pandemic. Do any of Belmonts Streetlites have working plug sockets by any chance I know 1596/1600 and 1601 don't have working chargers
I'd be amazed if you found any Arriva North East bus with working plug sockets tbh, very rare I catch one that does when a phone charge is required

BusLoverMum



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31 Mar 2020, 4:34 pm #206
(31 Mar 2020, 4:02 pm)Citaro5338 Just a quick heads up for a future trip after this pandemic. Do any of Belmonts Streetlites have working plug sockets by any chance I know 1596/1600 and 1601 don't have working chargers
Don't know if I tested all of them but never had a working one ever when I regularly used them on the 22.
BusLoverMum
31 Mar 2020, 4:34 pm #206

(31 Mar 2020, 4:02 pm)Citaro5338 Just a quick heads up for a future trip after this pandemic. Do any of Belmonts Streetlites have working plug sockets by any chance I know 1596/1600 and 1601 don't have working chargers
Don't know if I tested all of them but never had a working one ever when I regularly used them on the 22.

S830OFT



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31 Mar 2020, 9:17 pm #207
The ones with USBs on the new Sapphire livery 100% work...


S830OFT
31 Mar 2020, 9:17 pm #207

The ones with USBs on the new Sapphire livery 100% work...



31 Mar 2020, 10:03 pm #208
(31 Mar 2020, 4:34 pm)BusLoverMum Don't know if I tested all of them but never had a working one ever when I regularly used them on the 22.

If Arriva's work the same as GNE (which I assume they would), drivers have to enable the sockets every time they start the engine. The dedicated USB ports on the back of the seats come on automatically, but the 240v sockets do not
streetdeckfan
31 Mar 2020, 10:03 pm #208

(31 Mar 2020, 4:34 pm)BusLoverMum Don't know if I tested all of them but never had a working one ever when I regularly used them on the 22.

If Arriva's work the same as GNE (which I assume they would), drivers have to enable the sockets every time they start the engine. The dedicated USB ports on the back of the seats come on automatically, but the 240v sockets do not

31 Mar 2020, 10:13 pm #209
(31 Mar 2020, 10:03 pm)streetdeckfan If Arriva's work the same as GNE (which I assume they would), drivers have to enable the sockets every time they start the engine. The dedicated USB ports on the back of the seats come on automatically, but the 240v sockets do not

The only switch for the 240v switch on GNE streetlites happens to be the main switch for the interior lights, if they're on, the plugs should be on, most of the plugs seem to be broke though.
deanmachine
31 Mar 2020, 10:13 pm #209

(31 Mar 2020, 10:03 pm)streetdeckfan If Arriva's work the same as GNE (which I assume they would), drivers have to enable the sockets every time they start the engine. The dedicated USB ports on the back of the seats come on automatically, but the 240v sockets do not

The only switch for the 240v switch on GNE streetlites happens to be the main switch for the interior lights, if they're on, the plugs should be on, most of the plugs seem to be broke though.

Dan

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01 Apr 2020, 7:03 am #210
(31 Mar 2020, 10:13 pm)deanmachine The only switch for the 240v switch on GNE streetlites happens to be the main switch for the interior lights, if they're on, the plugs should be on, most of the plugs seem to be broke though.



streetdeckfan is right - said 240v switch has to be turned on and off again each time the engine is turned on, otherwise the plugs won’t work. Not as simple as the interior lights being turned on makes the plugs work, unfortunately.

There was a fair bit of comms to driving staff at Chester-le-Street and Stanley back in 2015 about it (for the Red Kite and Coast & Country batch), but it’s something that we never managed to succeed in doing.


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Dan
01 Apr 2020, 7:03 am #210

(31 Mar 2020, 10:13 pm)deanmachine The only switch for the 240v switch on GNE streetlites happens to be the main switch for the interior lights, if they're on, the plugs should be on, most of the plugs seem to be broke though.



streetdeckfan is right - said 240v switch has to be turned on and off again each time the engine is turned on, otherwise the plugs won’t work. Not as simple as the interior lights being turned on makes the plugs work, unfortunately.

There was a fair bit of comms to driving staff at Chester-le-Street and Stanley back in 2015 about it (for the Red Kite and Coast & Country batch), but it’s something that we never managed to succeed in doing.


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01 Apr 2020, 9:55 am #211
(01 Apr 2020, 7:03 am)Dan streetdeckfan is right - said 240v switch has to be turned on and off again each time the engine is turned on, otherwise the plugs won’t work. Not as simple as the interior lights being turned on makes the plugs work, unfortunately.

There was a fair bit of comms to driving staff at Chester-le-Street and Stanley back in 2015 about it (for the Red Kite and Coast & Country batch), but it’s something that we never managed to succeed in doing.


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Is it the same with the StreetDecks? I've only ever had the sockets not come on a couple times, although most of them do seem to 'reset' every couple minutes with a bleep coming from under the stairs
streetdeckfan
01 Apr 2020, 9:55 am #211

(01 Apr 2020, 7:03 am)Dan streetdeckfan is right - said 240v switch has to be turned on and off again each time the engine is turned on, otherwise the plugs won’t work. Not as simple as the interior lights being turned on makes the plugs work, unfortunately.

There was a fair bit of comms to driving staff at Chester-le-Street and Stanley back in 2015 about it (for the Red Kite and Coast & Country batch), but it’s something that we never managed to succeed in doing.


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Is it the same with the StreetDecks? I've only ever had the sockets not come on a couple times, although most of them do seem to 'reset' every couple minutes with a bleep coming from under the stairs

Dan

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01 Apr 2020, 10:00 am #212
(01 Apr 2020, 9:55 am)streetdeckfan Is it the same with the StreetDecks? I've only ever had the sockets not come on a couple times, although most of them do seem to 'reset' every couple minutes with a bleep coming from under the stairs



Different type of button on the deckers. From memory you need to press this every time to turn the lights on (and the button is illiminated) unlike the Streetlites where the button is a rocker switch and not particularly easy to see whether it’s on or not.


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Dan
01 Apr 2020, 10:00 am #212

(01 Apr 2020, 9:55 am)streetdeckfan Is it the same with the StreetDecks? I've only ever had the sockets not come on a couple times, although most of them do seem to 'reset' every couple minutes with a bleep coming from under the stairs



Different type of button on the deckers. From memory you need to press this every time to turn the lights on (and the button is illiminated) unlike the Streetlites where the button is a rocker switch and not particularly easy to see whether it’s on or not.


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