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09 May 2016, 7:25 pm
Can an 11 year-old get a train alone from Newcastle-Durham?

(09 May 2016, 6:19 pm)Andreos1 No idea which runs are scheduled to be 156's. Fingers crossed you don't get a 142! I have been fortunate enough to have never had the latter on the Tyne Valley line. If you are looking to go in to the lakes, the rover that includes bus, ferry and train might be worth looking at.

I had a 142 on the DRS open day last year and it was awful
NK53 TKT
09 May 2016, 7:25 pm #321

Can an 11 year-old get a train alone from Newcastle-Durham?


(09 May 2016, 6:19 pm)Andreos1 No idea which runs are scheduled to be 156's. Fingers crossed you don't get a 142! I have been fortunate enough to have never had the latter on the Tyne Valley line. If you are looking to go in to the lakes, the rover that includes bus, ferry and train might be worth looking at.

I had a 142 on the DRS open day last year and it was awful

Tom
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09 May 2016, 7:44 pm
(09 May 2016, 6:19 pm)Andreos1 No idea which runs are scheduled to be 156's. Fingers crossed you don't get a 142! I have been fortunate enough to have never had the latter on the Tyne Valley line. If you are looking to go in to the lakes, the rover that includes bus, ferry and train might be worth looking at.

I wouldn't have a clue on the difference really - not sure about trains at all! How much is the rover?

(09 May 2016, 6:59 pm)Jimmi I'd still really love to do the Lakes but it's a right chew on just getting to Carlisle for a decent time. Annoyingly my plan of doing the southern parts of the Lakes whilst I'm away in Blackpool on holiday has unfortunately hit a rough patch due to the withdrawal of the evening 42's between Blackpool and Lanchester. Still love to get some time in down there at some point though. Unsure on my plans for this weekend at the moment.

Yeah and I'm guessing this will be the last year for the Olympians, some of them are great still! Shame they withdrew the evening 42's as you could have had a decent day out in Central Lakes.
Tom
09 May 2016, 7:44 pm #322

(09 May 2016, 6:19 pm)Andreos1 No idea which runs are scheduled to be 156's. Fingers crossed you don't get a 142! I have been fortunate enough to have never had the latter on the Tyne Valley line. If you are looking to go in to the lakes, the rover that includes bus, ferry and train might be worth looking at.

I wouldn't have a clue on the difference really - not sure about trains at all! How much is the rover?

(09 May 2016, 6:59 pm)Jimmi I'd still really love to do the Lakes but it's a right chew on just getting to Carlisle for a decent time. Annoyingly my plan of doing the southern parts of the Lakes whilst I'm away in Blackpool on holiday has unfortunately hit a rough patch due to the withdrawal of the evening 42's between Blackpool and Lanchester. Still love to get some time in down there at some point though. Unsure on my plans for this weekend at the moment.

Yeah and I'm guessing this will be the last year for the Olympians, some of them are great still! Shame they withdrew the evening 42's as you could have had a decent day out in Central Lakes.

Dan
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09 May 2016, 7:50 pm
(09 May 2016, 7:44 pm)Tom I wouldn't have a clue on the difference really - not sure about trains at all! How much is the rover?

Andreos mentioned it a few weeks ago and I posted the link to it - but can't find it now.

Lakes Day Ranger:
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fare...c4cf1.aspx
Dan
09 May 2016, 7:50 pm #323

(09 May 2016, 7:44 pm)Tom I wouldn't have a clue on the difference really - not sure about trains at all! How much is the rover?

Andreos mentioned it a few weeks ago and I posted the link to it - but can't find it now.

Lakes Day Ranger:
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fare...c4cf1.aspx

Tom
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09 May 2016, 7:59 pm
(09 May 2016, 7:50 pm)Dan Andreos mentioned it a few weeks ago and I posted the link to it - but can't find it now.

Lakes Day Ranger:
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fare...c4cf1.aspx

Cheers Smile

Very good value that! But not sure it would be worth it if I'm only getting the train from Newcastle to Carlisle.
Tom
09 May 2016, 7:59 pm #324

(09 May 2016, 7:50 pm)Dan Andreos mentioned it a few weeks ago and I posted the link to it - but can't find it now.

Lakes Day Ranger:
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fare...c4cf1.aspx

Cheers Smile

Very good value that! But not sure it would be worth it if I'm only getting the train from Newcastle to Carlisle.

14267
09 May 2016, 8:05 pm
(09 May 2016, 7:44 pm)Tom I wouldn't have a clue on the difference really - not sure about trains at all! How much is the rover?


Yeah and I'm guessing this will be the last year for the Olympians, some of them are great still! Shame they withdrew the evening 42's as you could have had a decent day out in Central Lakes.

Once you have a go on each, you will notice the difference. I reckon the stock you get will have a major bearing in how much you enjoy your day! Wink

https://youtu.be/e9nm0nmMgos
https://youtu.be/PZSTui4_VTc

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
09 May 2016, 8:05 pm #325

(09 May 2016, 7:44 pm)Tom I wouldn't have a clue on the difference really - not sure about trains at all! How much is the rover?


Yeah and I'm guessing this will be the last year for the Olympians, some of them are great still! Shame they withdrew the evening 42's as you could have had a decent day out in Central Lakes.

Once you have a go on each, you will notice the difference. I reckon the stock you get will have a major bearing in how much you enjoy your day! Wink

https://youtu.be/e9nm0nmMgos
https://youtu.be/PZSTui4_VTc


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Tom
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09 May 2016, 8:09 pm
(09 May 2016, 8:05 pm)Andreos1 Once you have a go on each, you will notice the difference. I reckon the stock you get will have a major bearing in how much you enjoy your day! Wink

https://youtu.be/e9nm0nmMgos
https://youtu.be/PZSTui4_VTc

Ah the 142 are Pacers I'm guessing. Been on one of them before and I don't think they were great! can't recall going on a 156 though.
Tom
09 May 2016, 8:09 pm #326

(09 May 2016, 8:05 pm)Andreos1 Once you have a go on each, you will notice the difference. I reckon the stock you get will have a major bearing in how much you enjoy your day! Wink

https://youtu.be/e9nm0nmMgos
https://youtu.be/PZSTui4_VTc

Ah the 142 are Pacers I'm guessing. Been on one of them before and I don't think they were great! can't recall going on a 156 though.

10978
09 May 2016, 8:15 pm
(09 May 2016, 8:09 pm)Tom Ah the 142 are Pacers I'm guessing. Been on one of them before and I don't think they were great! can't recall going on a 156 though.

Know which of the two I'd rather have, especially as I get Class 142's all the time on my rail journeys. Was so annoyed that I had a 142 for my journey between Doncaster and Sheffield on Saturday, was hoping for a class that I hadn't been on before.
Jimmi
09 May 2016, 8:15 pm #327

(09 May 2016, 8:09 pm)Tom Ah the 142 are Pacers I'm guessing. Been on one of them before and I don't think they were great! can't recall going on a 156 though.

Know which of the two I'd rather have, especially as I get Class 142's all the time on my rail journeys. Was so annoyed that I had a 142 for my journey between Doncaster and Sheffield on Saturday, was hoping for a class that I hadn't been on before.

1928
09 May 2016, 8:29 pm
(09 May 2016, 7:25 pm)NK53 TKT Can an 11 year-old get a train alone from Newcastle-Durham?

Yes.
LeeCalder
09 May 2016, 8:29 pm #328

(09 May 2016, 7:25 pm)NK53 TKT Can an 11 year-old get a train alone from Newcastle-Durham?

Yes.

10 May 2016, 11:56 am
(09 May 2016, 6:06 pm)NK53 TKT Amazing scenery on the Newcastle-Carlisle train, I recommend you get the 10:22 train because it is Abellio Scotrail, this is better than Northern

In your opinion
Bearing in mind the Scotrail operated services continue to Glasgow; this often attracts a different range of clientéle as opposed to Carlisle services - usually more tipsy and loud from past experiences.

(09 May 2016, 6:19 pm)Andreos1 No idea which runs are scheduled to be 156's. Fingers crossed you don't get a 142! I have been fortunate enough to have never had the latter on the Tyne Valley line. If you are looking to go in to the lakes, the rover that includes bus, ferry and train might be worth looking at.

No 'booked' daytime diagrams as such for 156s or 142s on the Tyne Valley.
Some people like 142s...

(09 May 2016, 6:59 pm)Jimmi the withdrawal of the evening 42's between Blackpool and Lanchester.

That's a route and a half that Jimmi! :p

(09 May 2016, 7:50 pm)Dan Andreos mentioned it a few weeks ago and I posted the link to it - but can't find it now.

Lakes Day Ranger:
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fare...c4cf1.aspx

Various day rangers around the lakes. Cumbria Day Ranger covers you Carlisle to Preston via WCML and via the Cumbrian Coast as well as Northern's Oxenholme - Windermere services too.
I'd recommend having a look through the Northern 'special offers' page (same link as Dan earlier but this shows all products).
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/1418.aspx

On a slightly biased note, if anyone gets the chance to go on the Cumbrian Coast, Mon-Sat you can join a Class 37-hauled service with Mk2 coaches. I personally would really recommend it. Smile Smile Smile Smile 
 

Re your earlier question about advance fares; Northern did have very good advances (such as Carlisle to Newcastle for £3) up until the Tyne Valley shut with the Farnley Landslide. They've weirdly never came back which is a big shame.
So no, the ticket you buy on the day will be the one. Smile
Do you happen to have a railcard (I'm guessing you're over 16)? 16-25 costs £30 for a year and saves 33% off tickets with various peak time restrictions. http://www.16-25railcard.co.uk/

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10 May 2016, 11:56 am #329

(09 May 2016, 6:06 pm)NK53 TKT Amazing scenery on the Newcastle-Carlisle train, I recommend you get the 10:22 train because it is Abellio Scotrail, this is better than Northern

In your opinion
Bearing in mind the Scotrail operated services continue to Glasgow; this often attracts a different range of clientéle as opposed to Carlisle services - usually more tipsy and loud from past experiences.

(09 May 2016, 6:19 pm)Andreos1 No idea which runs are scheduled to be 156's. Fingers crossed you don't get a 142! I have been fortunate enough to have never had the latter on the Tyne Valley line. If you are looking to go in to the lakes, the rover that includes bus, ferry and train might be worth looking at.

No 'booked' daytime diagrams as such for 156s or 142s on the Tyne Valley.
Some people like 142s...

(09 May 2016, 6:59 pm)Jimmi the withdrawal of the evening 42's between Blackpool and Lanchester.

That's a route and a half that Jimmi! :p

(09 May 2016, 7:50 pm)Dan Andreos mentioned it a few weeks ago and I posted the link to it - but can't find it now.

Lakes Day Ranger:
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fare...c4cf1.aspx

Various day rangers around the lakes. Cumbria Day Ranger covers you Carlisle to Preston via WCML and via the Cumbrian Coast as well as Northern's Oxenholme - Windermere services too.
I'd recommend having a look through the Northern 'special offers' page (same link as Dan earlier but this shows all products).
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/1418.aspx

On a slightly biased note, if anyone gets the chance to go on the Cumbrian Coast, Mon-Sat you can join a Class 37-hauled service with Mk2 coaches. I personally would really recommend it. Smile Smile Smile Smile 
 

Re your earlier question about advance fares; Northern did have very good advances (such as Carlisle to Newcastle for £3) up until the Tyne Valley shut with the Farnley Landslide. They've weirdly never came back which is a big shame.
So no, the ticket you buy on the day will be the one. Smile
Do you happen to have a railcard (I'm guessing you're over 16)? 16-25 costs £30 for a year and saves 33% off tickets with various peak time restrictions. http://www.16-25railcard.co.uk/


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10 May 2016, 12:07 pm
(10 May 2016, 11:56 am)northern156 That's a route and a half that Jimmi!

You know, I'm always getting them two mixed up! It's led to some long and expensive days out

Nah, that's me with auto-correct, just started typing Lancaster, just pressed Lanchester just because I saw Lanc.
Jimmi
10 May 2016, 12:07 pm #330

(10 May 2016, 11:56 am)northern156 That's a route and a half that Jimmi!

You know, I'm always getting them two mixed up! It's led to some long and expensive days out

Nah, that's me with auto-correct, just started typing Lancaster, just pressed Lanchester just because I saw Lanc.

10 May 2016, 3:40 pm
(09 May 2016, 8:29 pm)LeeCalder Yes.

Thanks, that's my Sunday sorted to hopefully catch a streetlite
NK53 TKT
10 May 2016, 3:40 pm #331

(09 May 2016, 8:29 pm)LeeCalder Yes.

Thanks, that's my Sunday sorted to hopefully catch a streetlite

11 May 2016, 7:35 am
(10 May 2016, 11:56 am)northern156 In your opinion
Bearing in mind the Scotrail operated services continue to Glasgow; this often attracts a different range of clientéle as opposed to Carlisle services - usually more tipsy and loud from past experiences.

Agree with this. I was on an early evening service from Carlisle to Newcastle, and security had boarded the train at Hexham...

The toilets had been smashed up by passengers and people were stood at the back of the train by the doors to have a wee in a plastic bottle. When I went to get off in Hexham, there was wee all over the doors.....! 

Lovely.
omnicity4659
11 May 2016, 7:35 am #332

(10 May 2016, 11:56 am)northern156 In your opinion
Bearing in mind the Scotrail operated services continue to Glasgow; this often attracts a different range of clientéle as opposed to Carlisle services - usually more tipsy and loud from past experiences.

Agree with this. I was on an early evening service from Carlisle to Newcastle, and security had boarded the train at Hexham...

The toilets had been smashed up by passengers and people were stood at the back of the train by the doors to have a wee in a plastic bottle. When I went to get off in Hexham, there was wee all over the doors.....! 

Lovely.

1868
20 May 2016, 4:33 pm
Am I right in thinking that an Arriva Tyne and Wear One Zone ticket will get me from Birtley all the way to Newcastle Airpot and out to Whitley Bay and North Tyneside for £4.30?!

That's ridiculous value. It's cheaper than a Birtley to Gateshead return on the Angel

A grand ride out (and some rugby) awaits

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
20 May 2016, 4:33 pm #333

Am I right in thinking that an Arriva Tyne and Wear One Zone ticket will get me from Birtley all the way to Newcastle Airpot and out to Whitley Bay and North Tyneside for £4.30?!

That's ridiculous value. It's cheaper than a Birtley to Gateshead return on the Angel

A grand ride out (and some rugby) awaits


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Tom
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20 May 2016, 5:04 pm
(20 May 2016, 4:33 pm)Ambassador Am I right in thinking that an Arriva Tyne and Wear One Zone ticket will get me from Birtley all the way to Newcastle Airpot and out to Whitley Bay and North Tyneside for £4.30?!

That's ridiculous value. It's cheaper than a Birtley to Gateshead return on the Angel

A grand ride out (and some rugby) awaits

Well you can't get to Newcastle Airport on Arriva but yeah it's great value as you can use it anywhere in North Tyneside/Newcastle. Or get a all zone one for £7.00 that gets you to Ashington, Morpeth, Hexham etc. 

Heres a triple ticket map - https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/globalassets...wn-map.pdf
Tom
20 May 2016, 5:04 pm #334

(20 May 2016, 4:33 pm)Ambassador Am I right in thinking that an Arriva Tyne and Wear One Zone ticket will get me from Birtley all the way to Newcastle Airpot and out to Whitley Bay and North Tyneside for £4.30?!

That's ridiculous value. It's cheaper than a Birtley to Gateshead return on the Angel

A grand ride out (and some rugby) awaits

Well you can't get to Newcastle Airport on Arriva but yeah it's great value as you can use it anywhere in North Tyneside/Newcastle. Or get a all zone one for £7.00 that gets you to Ashington, Morpeth, Hexham etc. 

Heres a triple ticket map - https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/globalassets...wn-map.pdf

1868
20 May 2016, 6:25 pm
(20 May 2016, 5:04 pm)Tom Well you can't get to Newcastle Airport on Arriva but yeah it's great value as you can use it anywhere in North Tyneside/Newcastle. Or get a all zone one for £7.00 that gets you to Ashington, Morpeth, Hexham etc. 

Heres a triple ticket map - https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/globalassets...wn-map.pdf

Pricing is lost on me. No idea how GNE get away with their comparative pricing. 

Got some rugby to catch at Magic Weekend or I'd be bashing up to Morpeth

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
20 May 2016, 6:25 pm #335

(20 May 2016, 5:04 pm)Tom Well you can't get to Newcastle Airport on Arriva but yeah it's great value as you can use it anywhere in North Tyneside/Newcastle. Or get a all zone one for £7.00 that gets you to Ashington, Morpeth, Hexham etc. 

Heres a triple ticket map - https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/globalassets...wn-map.pdf

Pricing is lost on me. No idea how GNE get away with their comparative pricing. 

Got some rugby to catch at Magic Weekend or I'd be bashing up to Morpeth


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Tom
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20 May 2016, 7:35 pm
(20 May 2016, 6:25 pm)Ambassador Pricing is lost on me. No idea how GNE get away with their comparative pricing. 

Got some rugby to catch at Magic Weekend or I'd be bashing up to Morpeth

Yeah it's amazing how much the pricing varies!

I think the pricing here in North Tyneside is very good - £3.90 for a day ticket which covers Blyth, Killingworth, Newcastle, Wallsend, North Shields and Whitley Bay. An even still the single fares are decent, £1.50 can get you 5 or 6 miles in some cases.

But in some areas it's £4.10 for 5 miles. Not sure how the pricing is structured at all.
Tom
20 May 2016, 7:35 pm #336

(20 May 2016, 6:25 pm)Ambassador Pricing is lost on me. No idea how GNE get away with their comparative pricing. 

Got some rugby to catch at Magic Weekend or I'd be bashing up to Morpeth

Yeah it's amazing how much the pricing varies!

I think the pricing here in North Tyneside is very good - £3.90 for a day ticket which covers Blyth, Killingworth, Newcastle, Wallsend, North Shields and Whitley Bay. An even still the single fares are decent, £1.50 can get you 5 or 6 miles in some cases.

But in some areas it's £4.10 for 5 miles. Not sure how the pricing is structured at all.

1868
20 May 2016, 9:29 pm
(20 May 2016, 7:35 pm)Tom Yeah it's amazing how much the pricing varies!

I think the pricing here in North Tyneside is very good - £3.90 for a day ticket which covers Blyth, Killingworth, Newcastle, Wallsend, North Shields and Whitley Bay. An even still the single fares are decent, £1.50 can get you 5 or 6 miles in some cases.

But in some areas it's £4.10 for 5 miles. Not sure how the pricing is structured at all.

My cynical guess is South And North Tyneside are competitive whereas particularly in Gateshead, there's a monopoly so charge what you want

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
20 May 2016, 9:29 pm #337

(20 May 2016, 7:35 pm)Tom Yeah it's amazing how much the pricing varies!

I think the pricing here in North Tyneside is very good - £3.90 for a day ticket which covers Blyth, Killingworth, Newcastle, Wallsend, North Shields and Whitley Bay. An even still the single fares are decent, £1.50 can get you 5 or 6 miles in some cases.

But in some areas it's £4.10 for 5 miles. Not sure how the pricing is structured at all.

My cynical guess is South And North Tyneside are competitive whereas particularly in Gateshead, there's a monopoly so charge what you want


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Tom
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20 May 2016, 9:52 pm
(20 May 2016, 9:29 pm)Ambassador My cynical guess is South And North Tyneside are competitive whereas particularly in Gateshead, there's a monopoly so charge what you want

Yeah very true - Gateshead prices aren't as bad as the likes of Stanley areas though. Some of the prices are shocking around there.
Tom
20 May 2016, 9:52 pm #338

(20 May 2016, 9:29 pm)Ambassador My cynical guess is South And North Tyneside are competitive whereas particularly in Gateshead, there's a monopoly so charge what you want

Yeah very true - Gateshead prices aren't as bad as the likes of Stanley areas though. Some of the prices are shocking around there.

Jamie M
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29 May 2016, 1:51 pm
Anyone know how much a full fare single would be from Ashington to Newbiggin-by-the-sea on ANE's X21? There's literally no info on the site.
Jamie M
29 May 2016, 1:51 pm #339

Anyone know how much a full fare single would be from Ashington to Newbiggin-by-the-sea on ANE's X21? There's literally no info on the site.

29 May 2016, 3:26 pm
(29 May 2016, 1:51 pm)Jamie M Anyone know how much a full fare single would be from Ashington to Newbiggin-by-the-sea on ANE's X21? There's literally no info on the site.

I think something outrageous like £3.90 or more, don't know for certain but a child single is £2.75 I think
NK53 TKT
29 May 2016, 3:26 pm #340

(29 May 2016, 1:51 pm)Jamie M Anyone know how much a full fare single would be from Ashington to Newbiggin-by-the-sea on ANE's X21? There's literally no info on the site.

I think something outrageous like £3.90 or more, don't know for certain but a child single is £2.75 I think

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