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MVK500R



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04 Apr 2020, 8:42 pm #41
(04 Apr 2020, 1:44 pm)Michael Which buses will Sunderland delicense from Sunday, due to more changes?, As the PVR drops from 53 to 41.

Edit:

I worked out... 84 PVR for a full normal service.. so in a matter of weeks, its dropped from 84 to 53 to 41... crazy, just shows you the demand isn't there.

To get to work, I use either the 12, 40 or 22 to Byker, then the 62/3 to complete my journey, and to be honest they're nearly always empty.
MVK500R
04 Apr 2020, 8:42 pm #41

(04 Apr 2020, 1:44 pm)Michael Which buses will Sunderland delicense from Sunday, due to more changes?, As the PVR drops from 53 to 41.

Edit:

I worked out... 84 PVR for a full normal service.. so in a matter of weeks, its dropped from 84 to 53 to 41... crazy, just shows you the demand isn't there.

To get to work, I use either the 12, 40 or 22 to Byker, then the 62/3 to complete my journey, and to be honest they're nearly always empty.

James101



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04 Apr 2020, 10:19 pm #42
(04 Apr 2020, 12:06 pm)Kuyoyo Teesside ones have changed as well

12/39 reduced from every 20 daytime/30 evening to every 30 all day
36 reduced from half hourly to hourly, combining with 37/38 to offer a bus every 20 minutes between Middlesbrough and Norton
52 and 58 remains every 30 minutes but running to evening times, 61 reduced to hourly (58/59/61 interworking as per evening)
13 running hourly (no 13A) with a near half hour layover at Hemlington
34 reduced to hourly on Sunday timings (but different times for the majority of the day)
35 reduced to hourly leaving Stockton at xx31
14 unchanged from this week (hourly all day - with a small amount of extra time during the day)
10 remains hourly but retimed
Stockton PVR drops from 31 to 18

Hartlepool is unchanged from this week

Leaving Hartlepool as-is seems strange. With the 6/7 currently being each every 20 mins, 7 days a week, this must be the best served route in the region atm.
James101
04 Apr 2020, 10:19 pm #42

(04 Apr 2020, 12:06 pm)Kuyoyo Teesside ones have changed as well

12/39 reduced from every 20 daytime/30 evening to every 30 all day
36 reduced from half hourly to hourly, combining with 37/38 to offer a bus every 20 minutes between Middlesbrough and Norton
52 and 58 remains every 30 minutes but running to evening times, 61 reduced to hourly (58/59/61 interworking as per evening)
13 running hourly (no 13A) with a near half hour layover at Hemlington
34 reduced to hourly on Sunday timings (but different times for the majority of the day)
35 reduced to hourly leaving Stockton at xx31
14 unchanged from this week (hourly all day - with a small amount of extra time during the day)
10 remains hourly but retimed
Stockton PVR drops from 31 to 18

Hartlepool is unchanged from this week

Leaving Hartlepool as-is seems strange. With the 6/7 currently being each every 20 mins, 7 days a week, this must be the best served route in the region atm.

Gonorth91



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04 Apr 2020, 10:20 pm #43
Stagecoach newcastle and sunderland do well dont know about south shields
Gonorth91
04 Apr 2020, 10:20 pm #43

Stagecoach newcastle and sunderland do well dont know about south shields

Dan

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05 Apr 2020, 6:19 am #44
(04 Apr 2020, 10:19 pm)James101 Leaving Hartlepool as-is seems strange. With the 6/7 currently being each every 20 mins, 7 days a week, this must be the best served route in the region atm.

Are they subsidised? Could be why.
Dan
05 Apr 2020, 6:19 am #44

(04 Apr 2020, 10:19 pm)James101 Leaving Hartlepool as-is seems strange. With the 6/7 currently being each every 20 mins, 7 days a week, this must be the best served route in the region atm.

Are they subsidised? Could be why.

Kuyoyo



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05 Apr 2020, 7:49 am #45
(04 Apr 2020, 5:24 pm)Benny But it does make sense like you can't just cut of Wolviston Court by Axing the 35 all together, same with several areas on the 13 as its the only bus that goes there. Yet the 36 route is pretty much covered by other routes (and people shouldn't really be travelling from Teesside to Hartlepool unless they are keyworkers).

But 35s (and 13s) don't normally run on Sundays but as of today they are running (although Bus Times - and presumably the Stagecoach app - aren't tracking the runs properly (so at present, 26286 is out on 37s but it is showing on Bus Times as a 34).

(04 Apr 2020, 10:19 pm)James101 Leaving Hartlepool as-is seems strange. With the 6/7 currently being each every 20 mins, 7 days a week, this must be the best served route in the region atm.

(05 Apr 2020, 6:19 am)Dan Are they subsidised? Could be why.

Don't think anything in Hartlepool is subsidised (apart from the evening journeys on Arriva's 57a to Trimdon - but that's DCC funding not Hartlepool Council). To be honest, cutting Hartlepool's services down anymore would effectively bring the question of closing it down temporarily (as per what Go have done) and having their entire Tees Valley area output operate out of Stockton - considering as of today, Stockton is down to just 18 buses out and Hartlepool are running 15 on weekdays.
Kuyoyo
05 Apr 2020, 7:49 am #45

(04 Apr 2020, 5:24 pm)Benny But it does make sense like you can't just cut of Wolviston Court by Axing the 35 all together, same with several areas on the 13 as its the only bus that goes there. Yet the 36 route is pretty much covered by other routes (and people shouldn't really be travelling from Teesside to Hartlepool unless they are keyworkers).

But 35s (and 13s) don't normally run on Sundays but as of today they are running (although Bus Times - and presumably the Stagecoach app - aren't tracking the runs properly (so at present, 26286 is out on 37s but it is showing on Bus Times as a 34).

(04 Apr 2020, 10:19 pm)James101 Leaving Hartlepool as-is seems strange. With the 6/7 currently being each every 20 mins, 7 days a week, this must be the best served route in the region atm.

(05 Apr 2020, 6:19 am)Dan Are they subsidised? Could be why.

Don't think anything in Hartlepool is subsidised (apart from the evening journeys on Arriva's 57a to Trimdon - but that's DCC funding not Hartlepool Council). To be honest, cutting Hartlepool's services down anymore would effectively bring the question of closing it down temporarily (as per what Go have done) and having their entire Tees Valley area output operate out of Stockton - considering as of today, Stockton is down to just 18 buses out and Hartlepool are running 15 on weekdays.

beefcake



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05 Apr 2020, 7:57 am #46
I don't think any Hartlepool service receives subsidy. A round trip on the 6 is 79 minutes so even a reduction to every 30 minutes is going to result in the same number of vehicles on the road. The 7 on the other hand can be achieved in 58 minutes so can surely only be a matter of time before it goes half hourly
beefcake
05 Apr 2020, 7:57 am #46

I don't think any Hartlepool service receives subsidy. A round trip on the 6 is 79 minutes so even a reduction to every 30 minutes is going to result in the same number of vehicles on the road. The 7 on the other hand can be achieved in 58 minutes so can surely only be a matter of time before it goes half hourly

AIG20



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05 Apr 2020, 11:22 am #47
(04 Apr 2020, 1:44 pm)Michael Which buses will Sunderland delicense from Sunday, due to more changes?, As the PVR drops from 53 to 41.

Edit:

I worked out... 84 PVR for a full normal service.. so in a matter of weeks, its dropped from 84 to 53 to 41... crazy, just shows you the demand isn't there.

All of Sunderlands ADL E300s (27726-40) are all off the road today, with the E's being operated by Gas Buses.
AIG20
05 Apr 2020, 11:22 am #47

(04 Apr 2020, 1:44 pm)Michael Which buses will Sunderland delicense from Sunday, due to more changes?, As the PVR drops from 53 to 41.

Edit:

I worked out... 84 PVR for a full normal service.. so in a matter of weeks, its dropped from 84 to 53 to 41... crazy, just shows you the demand isn't there.

All of Sunderlands ADL E300s (27726-40) are all off the road today, with the E's being operated by Gas Buses.

Michael



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05 Apr 2020, 12:19 pm #48
(05 Apr 2020, 11:22 am)AIG20 All of Sunderlands ADL E300s (27726-40) are all off the road today, with the E's being operated by Gas Buses.

Thanks for the update, hopefully means the darts are off the road for good.


Shame most routes can't be gas bus and newer Envrio ran, gonna be a long process to get all the buses taxed again (if they run out during not being used in service)... Sunderland only has a current PVR of 41 (would imagine around 6 spare buses?) so just tax the gas buses and newer Enviro's and get them out on the road.




South Shields PVR is now: 13 (think I've worked out it right) - they might as well merge it with Sunderland, and use South Shields to store the unused buses.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Apr 2020, 12:19 pm #48

(05 Apr 2020, 11:22 am)AIG20 All of Sunderlands ADL E300s (27726-40) are all off the road today, with the E's being operated by Gas Buses.

Thanks for the update, hopefully means the darts are off the road for good.


Shame most routes can't be gas bus and newer Envrio ran, gonna be a long process to get all the buses taxed again (if they run out during not being used in service)... Sunderland only has a current PVR of 41 (would imagine around 6 spare buses?) so just tax the gas buses and newer Enviro's and get them out on the road.




South Shields PVR is now: 13 (think I've worked out it right) - they might as well merge it with Sunderland, and use South Shields to store the unused buses.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

tcts24



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05 Apr 2020, 1:05 pm #49
(05 Apr 2020, 7:49 am)Kuyoyo But 35s (and 13s) don't normally run on Sundays but as of today they are running (although Bus Times - and presumably the Stagecoach app - aren't tracking the runs properly (so at present, 26286 is out on 37s but it is showing on Bus Times as a 34).



Don't think anything in Hartlepool is subsidised (apart from the evening journeys on Arriva's 57a to Trimdon - but that's DCC funding not Hartlepool Council). To be honest, cutting Hartlepool's services down anymore would effectively bring the question of closing it down temporarily (as per what Go have done) and having their entire Tees Valley area output operate out of Stockton - considering as of today, Stockton is down to just 18 buses out and Hartlepool are running 15 on weekdays.

You are indeed right. Hartlepool Council withdrew subsidies on all services between 27th March -1st April 2010 and hasn't paid for a single bus journey since! Durham Council pay for much of the 57, 57A and 58 group of services on.
Maybe Stagecoach could temorarily extend the 36 to cover all of the 6's route. I dunno, just a silly thought.
tcts24
05 Apr 2020, 1:05 pm #49

(05 Apr 2020, 7:49 am)Kuyoyo But 35s (and 13s) don't normally run on Sundays but as of today they are running (although Bus Times - and presumably the Stagecoach app - aren't tracking the runs properly (so at present, 26286 is out on 37s but it is showing on Bus Times as a 34).



Don't think anything in Hartlepool is subsidised (apart from the evening journeys on Arriva's 57a to Trimdon - but that's DCC funding not Hartlepool Council). To be honest, cutting Hartlepool's services down anymore would effectively bring the question of closing it down temporarily (as per what Go have done) and having their entire Tees Valley area output operate out of Stockton - considering as of today, Stockton is down to just 18 buses out and Hartlepool are running 15 on weekdays.

You are indeed right. Hartlepool Council withdrew subsidies on all services between 27th March -1st April 2010 and hasn't paid for a single bus journey since! Durham Council pay for much of the 57, 57A and 58 group of services on.
Maybe Stagecoach could temorarily extend the 36 to cover all of the 6's route. I dunno, just a silly thought.

LVK 404L



993
05 Apr 2020, 2:05 pm #50
(05 Apr 2020, 12:19 pm)Michael Thanks for the update, hopefully means the darts are off the road for good.


Shame most routes can't be gas bus and newer Envrio ran, gonna be a long process to get all the buses taxed again (if they run out during not being used in service)... Sunderland only has a current PVR of 41 (would imagine around 6 spare buses?) so just tax the gas buses and newer Enviro's and get them out on the road.




South Shields PVR is now: 13 (think I've worked out it right) - they might as well merge it with Sunderland, and use South Shields to store the unused buses.
If South Shields is down to just 13, this could be managed by 37301-19 (not all obvs) but there are still plenty of 397xx out and about in the last week.
LVK 404L
05 Apr 2020, 2:05 pm #50

(05 Apr 2020, 12:19 pm)Michael Thanks for the update, hopefully means the darts are off the road for good.


Shame most routes can't be gas bus and newer Envrio ran, gonna be a long process to get all the buses taxed again (if they run out during not being used in service)... Sunderland only has a current PVR of 41 (would imagine around 6 spare buses?) so just tax the gas buses and newer Enviro's and get them out on the road.




South Shields PVR is now: 13 (think I've worked out it right) - they might as well merge it with Sunderland, and use South Shields to store the unused buses.
If South Shields is down to just 13, this could be managed by 37301-19 (not all obvs) but there are still plenty of 397xx out and about in the last week.

Robin57

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05 Apr 2020, 10:55 pm #51
ifm001. Firstly can we forget about that message I sent you last time. Do you know which day they would use Shields depot to store some vehicles. Friend Robin
Robin57
05 Apr 2020, 10:55 pm #51

ifm001. Firstly can we forget about that message I sent you last time. Do you know which day they would use Shields depot to store some vehicles. Friend Robin

Cock Robin



2,778
06 Apr 2020, 11:58 am #52
Nothing showing on the tracker for 52, 59 or 61 at Stockton last time I looked! And 34, 35 all messed up.
Cock Robin
06 Apr 2020, 11:58 am #52

Nothing showing on the tracker for 52, 59 or 61 at Stockton last time I looked! And 34, 35 all messed up.

Michael



19,174
06 Apr 2020, 12:12 pm #53
(05 Apr 2020, 10:55 pm)Robin57 ifm001. Firstly can we forget about that message I sent you last time. Do you know which day they would use Shields depot to store some vehicles. Friend Robin

Nothing happening at the minute with buses been stored at South Shields, it was just a suggestion.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
06 Apr 2020, 12:12 pm #53

(05 Apr 2020, 10:55 pm)Robin57 ifm001. Firstly can we forget about that message I sent you last time. Do you know which day they would use Shields depot to store some vehicles. Friend Robin

Nothing happening at the minute with buses been stored at South Shields, it was just a suggestion.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

LVK 404L



993
06 Apr 2020, 1:01 pm #54
(05 Apr 2020, 10:55 pm)Robin57 ifm001. Firstly can we forget about that message I sent you last time. Do you know which day they would use Shields depot to store some vehicles. Friend Robin
As Michael has stated Robin.  Nothing official is happening between Shields and Sunderland. It is purely a suggestion/speculation as to what could happen
You need to realise that those of us on this site are mainly enthusiasts as you. With a few people who are actual employers and can give further insight to suggestions and queries that we enthusiasts may have. 
Addressing points direct to individuals is not always appropriate as that member may or may not be the best person to answer the query.
LVK 404L
06 Apr 2020, 1:01 pm #54

(05 Apr 2020, 10:55 pm)Robin57 ifm001. Firstly can we forget about that message I sent you last time. Do you know which day they would use Shields depot to store some vehicles. Friend Robin
As Michael has stated Robin.  Nothing official is happening between Shields and Sunderland. It is purely a suggestion/speculation as to what could happen
You need to realise that those of us on this site are mainly enthusiasts as you. With a few people who are actual employers and can give further insight to suggestions and queries that we enthusiasts may have. 
Addressing points direct to individuals is not always appropriate as that member may or may not be the best person to answer the query.

Robin57

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07 Apr 2020, 10:37 am #55
Michael. Have only seen 36479, 39704/09 the morning the rest must still in the depot?
Robin57
07 Apr 2020, 10:37 am #55

Michael. Have only seen 36479, 39704/09 the morning the rest must still in the depot?

Michael



19,174
07 Apr 2020, 11:03 am #56
(07 Apr 2020, 10:37 am)Robin57 Michael. Have only seen 36479, 39704/09 the morning the rest must still in the depot?

I would imagine so?, unless they've migrated else where in the world.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
07 Apr 2020, 11:03 am #56

(07 Apr 2020, 10:37 am)Robin57 Michael. Have only seen 36479, 39704/09 the morning the rest must still in the depot?

I would imagine so?, unless they've migrated else where in the world.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Robin57

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07 Apr 2020, 11:32 am #57
Michael. Do you want me to keep a look out for the others if so I will do that. Friend Robin
Robin57
07 Apr 2020, 11:32 am #57

Michael. Do you want me to keep a look out for the others if so I will do that. Friend Robin

Michael



19,174
07 Apr 2020, 11:42 am #58
(07 Apr 2020, 11:32 am)Robin57 Michael. Do you want me to keep a look out for the others if so I will do that. Friend Robin

up to you but Bustimes.org, will also keep me updated.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
07 Apr 2020, 11:42 am #58

(07 Apr 2020, 11:32 am)Robin57 Michael. Do you want me to keep a look out for the others if so I will do that. Friend Robin

up to you but Bustimes.org, will also keep me updated.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Robin57

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07 Apr 2020, 11:53 am #59
Michael. I shall do that for you?
Robin57
07 Apr 2020, 11:53 am #59

Michael. I shall do that for you?

Cock Robin



2,778
07 Apr 2020, 12:48 pm #60
(07 Apr 2020, 11:53 am)Robin57 Michael. I shall do that for you?


How many times do you have to be told not to address posts to individuals and to conduct conversations by private messages?
Cock Robin
07 Apr 2020, 12:48 pm #60

(07 Apr 2020, 11:53 am)Robin57 Michael. I shall do that for you?


How many times do you have to be told not to address posts to individuals and to conduct conversations by private messages?

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