Newcastle Clean Air Zone: services which need to be upgraded

Adrian

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02 Sep 2021, 10:45 pm #49

(02 Sep 2021, 9:48 pm)Acky81 It really feels like we have gone back in time with Sunderland services 2 and 39s. Versa and solo come on go north east what you playing at? Versas are cramped and destination displays you can’t even read in daylight. It’s like we’ve gone back 10 years to when they were simplicity. And mini links as we call them on the 39s. I dread these buses when the schools come out!!
Proves Sunderland passengers are second class over Newcastle. We deserve better.

I don't mind the Versas on the 2/2A to be honest. They have the same seating capacity as a Streetlite, although its claimed the latter can have 30 standees... I'd be interested to see that attempted!
I do agree it is a backward step though, and Sunderland/Washington are suffering to the benefit of Newcastle. Whilst I understand why GNE are doing it (i.e. making best use of their resources), it doesn't exactly fit into the 'Better than Ever' narrative that is constantly banded about these days... you had a brand spanking new Streetlite with all the mod-cons before the lockdowns, but now you've got a grubby aging Versa.

(02 Sep 2021, 10:02 pm)JP6004 Covid, no profits/ funds to acquire new buses, plus the Newcastle CAZ, is just a perfect storm. Would you prefer GNE to pay £50 for everytime a non euro 6 bus enters newcastle, then raise prices and restrict growth and investment?

Why shouldn't they if they get funding for the electric vehicles? The 1yo DD would no doubt go to upgrade services across the network

Why do they have to prefer an alternative if they don't like what they're given? I really dislike this "put up and shut up" attitude, and its part of the reason public transport in the UK is so backward thinking on the large part.

What they're doing is with valid reason, but what's happening over the water is irrelevant to customers in Sunderland, who only see an old bus pull up instead of the new one they might have been used to. When you're trying to attract new customers, first impressions are everything. They're not going to care what an operators overheads are, just what the end result is.

(02 Sep 2021, 10:19 pm)Keeiajs i mean if ur not in Newcaslte, or your service doesn't go into Newcaslte don't except anything new. Someone was on about new ebuses for consett, why there is no need. Those E400 are only going to be put back onto a new newcaslte service. Consett & Newcastle don't need anything after these 2022 clean air thing. Deptford & Washington (50) better get some investments. We can tell the Sunderland District was a shit attempt to bring passengers back with okay colour schemes and awful names "Voilet" "Blue" talk about originality.

Consett should get nothing neither should Newcastle when the clean air ban comes untill atleast 2025.

Just because "someone was on about" something, does not mean you need to take it as gospel. People come out with rubbish all of the time.

Consett to Newcastle has to main a strategic corridor for Newcastle, especially when they have an MP who believes in fantasy and the possibility of the Metro coming to Consett. The more GNE can do to prove that is not required and in fact they have a top class bus network, it can only benefit their business. I personally believe that a Consett to Newcastle direct rail link is complete pie in the sky, but if the end result would decimate the business in the area, I would not be taking any chances.

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