Newcastle Clean Air Zone: services which need to be upgraded
Newcastle Clean Air Zone: services which need to be upgraded
(16 Nov 2022, 11:50 pm)peter Since last Thursday one of the Versa boards has been double deck operated (usually 3964) - there have not been 3 deckers allocated - a couple of extra journeys have been covered by deckers running on/off the 643.
Presumably the Versa displaced by 3964 is being used on the 74 maybe because none of the other services are appropriate for a vehicle of that size.
I would assume the Cathedral buses will be repainted...why would they not be, they've lost the contract? In what world do you think 2 buses is not enough for the 74, the PVR is 1, 2 buses is more than sufficient.
(16 Nov 2022, 11:50 pm)peter Since last Thursday one of the Versa boards has been double deck operated (usually 3964) - there have not been 3 deckers allocated - a couple of extra journeys have been covered by deckers running on/off the 643.
Presumably the Versa displaced by 3964 is being used on the 74 maybe because none of the other services are appropriate for a vehicle of that size.
I would assume the Cathedral buses will be repainted...why would they not be, they've lost the contract? In what world do you think 2 buses is not enough for the 74, the PVR is 1, 2 buses is more than sufficient.
(17 Nov 2022, 9:45 pm)OrangeArrow49 3 deckers have been allocated over the week, not at the same time is what I meant.I believe Hexham run the 643, atleast for part of the day.
The Cathedral buses might not be repainted, they could stay white and just have the branding removed. We now know they have been withdrawn anyway, plus not suitable for the 74 contract specification, which sparked my question initially.
Yes, I am well aware the PVR is 1 (sometimes 2 buses required due to breakdowns), all I meant is currently there is corporate Solo SRs 665/666, Tynedale Links 667-671 and 721 and corporate Versas 5377-5379 available for the 74 (not at once, but on individual days) whereas only 2 Cathedral buses exist in total, leaving 1 spare in the event of a breakdown.
Is the 684 partly operated by Riverside then, when deckers are on? 6196 is based at Riverside I believe, and has recently been used on the 643, 684, 941 and various scholars routes.
(17 Nov 2022, 9:45 pm)OrangeArrow49 3 deckers have been allocated over the week, not at the same time is what I meant.I believe Hexham run the 643, atleast for part of the day.
The Cathedral buses might not be repainted, they could stay white and just have the branding removed. We now know they have been withdrawn anyway, plus not suitable for the 74 contract specification, which sparked my question initially.
Yes, I am well aware the PVR is 1 (sometimes 2 buses required due to breakdowns), all I meant is currently there is corporate Solo SRs 665/666, Tynedale Links 667-671 and 721 and corporate Versas 5377-5379 available for the 74 (not at once, but on individual days) whereas only 2 Cathedral buses exist in total, leaving 1 spare in the event of a breakdown.
Is the 684 partly operated by Riverside then, when deckers are on? 6196 is based at Riverside I believe, and has recently been used on the 643, 684, 941 and various scholars routes.
(19 Dec 2022, 9:13 pm)Unber43 Yeah...youll still get an E400 on X1 while there is a StreetDeck on the 81 or 50 or smth
(19 Dec 2022, 9:13 pm)Unber43 Yeah...youll still get an E400 on X1 while there is a StreetDeck on the 81 or 50 or smth
(25 Jan 2023, 8:00 pm)ne14ne1 4 days left to improve allocations.Take the Euro 6 versas from Depford, they have loads and they don't need all of them, all they have is the 56. Swap them for some omnidecker as they can just go on the 35, a few 20's and then the South Tyneside Circuit (the boards that don't run onto the 60) or the 61. Its just common sense.
Yesterday we had a euro5(?) Eclipse and today an ancient Omnidecker.
(25 Jan 2023, 8:00 pm)ne14ne1 4 days left to improve allocations.Take the Euro 6 versas from Depford, they have loads and they don't need all of them, all they have is the 56. Swap them for some omnidecker as they can just go on the 35, a few 20's and then the South Tyneside Circuit (the boards that don't run onto the 60) or the 61. Its just common sense.
Yesterday we had a euro5(?) Eclipse and today an ancient Omnidecker.
(25 Jan 2023, 9:33 pm)nova347 Take the Euro 6 versas from Depford, they have loads and they don't need all of them, all they have is the 56. Swap them for some omnidecker as they can just go on the 35, a few 20's and then the South Tyneside Circuit (the boards that don't run onto the 60) or the 61. Its just common sense.
(25 Jan 2023, 9:33 pm)nova347 Take the Euro 6 versas from Depford, they have loads and they don't need all of them, all they have is the 56. Swap them for some omnidecker as they can just go on the 35, a few 20's and then the South Tyneside Circuit (the boards that don't run onto the 60) or the 61. Its just common sense.
(25 Jan 2023, 9:57 pm)Michael Which Versa's are Euro 6 at Deptford?,All the 11 Plate ones are which are not allocated to the Berries + 8331 afaik.
As they swapped all of Deptfords Euro 6 Streetlites for the Versa's a while back due to the air zone.
I thought the only Euro 6 buses at Deptford was the B9's on the 56 and the Sunderland Connect Solo's?
(25 Jan 2023, 9:57 pm)Michael Which Versa's are Euro 6 at Deptford?,All the 11 Plate ones are which are not allocated to the Berries + 8331 afaik.
As they swapped all of Deptfords Euro 6 Streetlites for the Versa's a while back due to the air zone.
I thought the only Euro 6 buses at Deptford was the B9's on the 56 and the Sunderland Connect Solo's?
(25 Jan 2023, 9:57 pm)Michael Which Versa's are Euro 6 at Deptford, I'm sure they're all Euro 5, as they swapped all of Deptfords Euro 6 Streetlites for the Versa's a while back due to the air zone.Deptford has 9 Euro 6 versas, they only need 2/3. As they now have 6049.
I thought the only Euro 6 buses at Deptford was the B9's on the 56 and the Sunderland Connect Solo's?
(25 Jan 2023, 9:57 pm)Michael Which Versa's are Euro 6 at Deptford, I'm sure they're all Euro 5, as they swapped all of Deptfords Euro 6 Streetlites for the Versa's a while back due to the air zone.Deptford has 9 Euro 6 versas, they only need 2/3. As they now have 6049.
I thought the only Euro 6 buses at Deptford was the B9's on the 56 and the Sunderland Connect Solo's?
Deptford -
2/2A - PVR - 10
5/9/24/26 - PVR - 18
20/20A - PVR - 14 - Only 11 Branded + Decker
33/135/136 - PVR - 2
35 - PVR 8
39/39A/39B - PVR 5 (temp timetables) | PVR - 9
56 - PVR 11
60 - PVR - 6 (temp timetables) | PVR - 7
61 - PVR - 4 - 5327/5333-6
Deptford has a number of isses, from not enough branded buses for 20/20A, buses dropping to bits, not enough Euro 6 buses, and allocations atrocious
(25 Jan 2023, 11:25 pm)Unber43 Deptford -
2/2A - PVR - 10
5/9/24/26 - PVR - 18
20/20A - PVR - 14 - Only 11 Branded + Decker
33/135/136 - PVR - 2
35 - PVR 8
39/39A/39B - PVR 5 (temp timetables) | PVR - 9
56 - PVR 11
60 - PVR - 6 (temp timetables) | PVR - 7
61 - PVR - 4 - 5327/5333-6
Deptford has a number of isses, from not enough branded buses for 20/20A, buses dropping to bits, not enough Euro 6 buses, and allocations atrocious
(25 Jan 2023, 11:25 pm)Unber43 Deptford -
2/2A - PVR - 10
5/9/24/26 - PVR - 18
20/20A - PVR - 14 - Only 11 Branded + Decker
33/135/136 - PVR - 2
35 - PVR 8
39/39A/39B - PVR 5 (temp timetables) | PVR - 9
56 - PVR 11
60 - PVR - 6 (temp timetables) | PVR - 7
61 - PVR - 4 - 5327/5333-6
Deptford has a number of isses, from not enough branded buses for 20/20A, buses dropping to bits, not enough Euro 6 buses, and allocations atrocious
(25 Jan 2023, 9:53 pm)Unber43 Also there were 3 Solos going to Newcastle today, aswell as a East Durham Explorer & Connections4.
Aswell as Lothian B7 on the X1. And the ExGNW Geminis of which there were atleast 2. Pretty dire for just a few days before the CAZ
(25 Jan 2023, 9:53 pm)Unber43 Also there were 3 Solos going to Newcastle today, aswell as a East Durham Explorer & Connections4.
Aswell as Lothian B7 on the X1. And the ExGNW Geminis of which there were atleast 2. Pretty dire for just a few days before the CAZ
(26 Jan 2023, 4:49 am)Dan The PVR of the 20/20A is 12, not 14, and is made up of 10x branded Streetlite and 2x Voyager double-deck.Deptford have more than 15 Deckers I think
There are 3 spare Euro 6 double-decks for a Newcastle CAZ PVR of 12 including one school board which runs a peak X1. This is more than sufficient.
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(26 Jan 2023, 4:50 am)Dan Of course, what you don’t know is which buses have exemptions pending Euro 6 upgrades…Hopefully a lot of Omnidekkas will still be here for a bit
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(26 Jan 2023, 4:49 am)Dan The PVR of the 20/20A is 12, not 14, and is made up of 10x branded Streetlite and 2x Voyager double-deck.Deptford have more than 15 Deckers I think
There are 3 spare Euro 6 double-decks for a Newcastle CAZ PVR of 12 including one school board which runs a peak X1. This is more than sufficient.
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(26 Jan 2023, 4:50 am)Dan Of course, what you don’t know is which buses have exemptions pending Euro 6 upgrades…Hopefully a lot of Omnidekkas will still be here for a bit
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(26 Jan 2023, 7:53 am)Unber43
Hopefully a lot of Omnidekkas will still be here for a bit
(26 Jan 2023, 7:53 am)Unber43
Hopefully a lot of Omnidekkas will still be here for a bit
(26 Jan 2023, 8:34 am)ne14ne1 Why? The should kept off front line work, they look so old especially inside, they have no NSA and I don’t know if the doors aren’t as tall as other buses but I’ve managed to brush/knock my head a few times now when boarding one.the Voyager ones aren't bad.
They’re grim.
(26 Jan 2023, 8:34 am)ne14ne1 Why? The should kept off front line work, they look so old especially inside, they have no NSA and I don’t know if the doors aren’t as tall as other buses but I’ve managed to brush/knock my head a few times now when boarding one.the Voyager ones aren't bad.
They’re grim.
