North Tyneside service changes - March 2020
North Tyneside service changes - March 2020
PB0003954/1073 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Wallsend to Whiteley Bay
Service number: 11 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Mar 2020
Monday to Sunday
PB0003954/1153 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Wallsend, Interchange to Cramlington/Kingston Park via Benton, Killingworth
Service number: 42 (42A)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Mar 2020
Monday to Saturday
Up to every 30 minutes
PB0003954/1152 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Northumberland Park to North Shields Town Centre
Service number: 19 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Mar 2020
Monday to Saturday
Up to every 30 minutes
PB0003954/1151 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Hadrian Park to Howdon, Tynemouth Road via Wallsend
Service number: 41 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Mar 2020
Monday to Saturday
Up to every 30 minutes
PB0003954/1150 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Heworth Metro to Brockley Whins /Jarrow
Service number: 900 (901)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 07 Mar 2020
PB0003954/1149 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Regent Centre Metro to Shiremoor Metro
Service number: 900 ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 22 Feb 2020
Is the 19 cut between Northumberland Park Interchange and Ashington too, or is that part contracted?
Old:
PB0003954/538 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Ashington Bus Station to North Shields, Town Centre
Service number: 19 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Mar 2020
New:
PB0003954/1152 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Northumberland Park to North Shields Town Centre
Service number: 19 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Mar 2020
Monday to Saturday
Up to every 30 minutes
Why is the 42/42A terminating at Wallsend Interchange and not continuing to North Shields?
The route between Kingston Park/Cramlington and Wallsend is unchanged?
(10 Feb 2020, 7:47 pm)Michael Is the 19 cut between Northumberland Park Interchange and Ashington too, or is that part contracted?
Old:
PB0003954/538 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Ashington Bus Station to North Shields, Town Centre
Service number: 19 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Mar 2020
New:
PB0003954/1152 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Northumberland Park to North Shields Town Centre
Service number: 19 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Mar 2020
Monday to Saturday
Up to every 30 minutes
(10 Feb 2020, 7:47 pm)Michael Is the 19 cut between Northumberland Park Interchange and Ashington too, or is that part contracted?
Old:
PB0003954/538 Cancelled
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Ashington Bus Station to North Shields, Town Centre
Service number: 19 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Mar 2020
New:
PB0003954/1152 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Northumberland Park to North Shields Town Centre
Service number: 19 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Mar 2020
Monday to Saturday
Up to every 30 minutes
(10 Feb 2020, 10:20 pm)Storx
It's definitely not subsidised.
Assume there's going to be another registration at some point as currently we're missing the 19 from Ashington to Northumberland Park and the 42/A from North Shields to Cobalt. Also noticed that the 19 is only every 30 minutes now so assume the peaks are gone. Could easily see a bus route to replace the whole lot of that Ashington -> North Shields (19 route to Cobalt, 42 route from there). Kinda would make sense as it gives a link between the two hospitals and a quicker bus route from Cramlington to North Tyneside Hospital. Well or the 19 is scrapped north of Northumberland Park but guess there's going to be something to replace the rest of the 42/A. Means they can get arid of the buses that sit around all day that do the 19 peaks in the morning and the evening and gives a 15 minute service all day Cobalt to the Metro.
Just my ideas.
perhaps the 42/42A between Wallsend and North Shields is being withdrawn and a replacement is being provided.
An extended 335 from Cobalt to North Shields possibly.
(10 Feb 2020, 10:20 pm)Storx
It's definitely not subsidised.
Assume there's going to be another registration at some point as currently we're missing the 19 from Ashington to Northumberland Park and the 42/A from North Shields to Cobalt. Also noticed that the 19 is only every 30 minutes now so assume the peaks are gone. Could easily see a bus route to replace the whole lot of that Ashington -> North Shields (19 route to Cobalt, 42 route from there). Kinda would make sense as it gives a link between the two hospitals and a quicker bus route from Cramlington to North Tyneside Hospital. Well or the 19 is scrapped north of Northumberland Park but guess there's going to be something to replace the rest of the 42/A. Means they can get arid of the buses that sit around all day that do the 19 peaks in the morning and the evening and gives a 15 minute service all day Cobalt to the Metro.
Just my ideas.
perhaps the 42/42A between Wallsend and North Shields is being withdrawn and a replacement is being provided.
An extended 335 from Cobalt to North Shields possibly.
park5354 perhaps the 42/42A between Wallsend and North Shields is being withdrawn and a replacement is being provided.
An extended 335 from Cobalt to North Shields possibly.
park5354 perhaps the 42/42A between Wallsend and North Shields is being withdrawn and a replacement is being provided.
An extended 335 from Cobalt to North Shields possibly.
(12 Feb 2020, 9:15 am)Storx If this is true, guessing another bus route in North Tyneside is going subsidised. I don't know how some on here can say competition for the buses is a good thing. One of the few areas which has competition (N Tyneside) is pretty much nearly all subsidised nowadays at some point and tbh the network is a mess mostly. Hopeless W buses which go nowhere. Numerous buses going around estates but not linking to actual places you want to be at (Morrisons / Tesco (Norham Road) / Silverlink). It really needs a radical change but who does it as GNE and Arriva are both clearly disinterested in the area and Nexus buses are never changed.
(12 Feb 2020, 9:15 am)Storx If this is true, guessing another bus route in North Tyneside is going subsidised. I don't know how some on here can say competition for the buses is a good thing. One of the few areas which has competition (N Tyneside) is pretty much nearly all subsidised nowadays at some point and tbh the network is a mess mostly. Hopeless W buses which go nowhere. Numerous buses going around estates but not linking to actual places you want to be at (Morrisons / Tesco (Norham Road) / Silverlink). It really needs a radical change but who does it as GNE and Arriva are both clearly disinterested in the area and Nexus buses are never changed.
(12 Feb 2020, 9:15 am)Storx If this is true, guessing another bus route in North Tyneside is going subsidised. I don't know how some on here can say competition for the buses is a good thing. One of the few areas which has competition (N Tyneside) is pretty much nearly all subsidised nowadays at some point and tbh the network is a mess mostly. Hopeless W buses which go nowhere. Numerous buses going around estates but not linking to actual places you want to be at (Morrisons / Tesco (Norham Road) / Silverlink). It really needs a radical change but who does it as GNE and Arriva are both clearly disinterested in the area and Nexus buses are never changed.
(12 Feb 2020, 9:15 am)Storx If this is true, guessing another bus route in North Tyneside is going subsidised. I don't know how some on here can say competition for the buses is a good thing. One of the few areas which has competition (N Tyneside) is pretty much nearly all subsidised nowadays at some point and tbh the network is a mess mostly. Hopeless W buses which go nowhere. Numerous buses going around estates but not linking to actual places you want to be at (Morrisons / Tesco (Norham Road) / Silverlink). It really needs a radical change but who does it as GNE and Arriva are both clearly disinterested in the area and Nexus buses are never changed.
(12 Feb 2020, 9:40 am)streetdeckfan It doesn't have anything to do with competition, it's the lack of passengers on those routes.
If there was competition on those routes, there would be no need to subsidise them as the competitor would take over when one of them drops out.
Without knowing too much about the routes around that area, I will agree with what you said about the services not going anywhere useful. It seem to me like all these estate routes are just being tacked on to other similar routes rather than being integrated into ones that visit actual places.
(12 Feb 2020, 9:40 am)streetdeckfan It doesn't have anything to do with competition, it's the lack of passengers on those routes.
If there was competition on those routes, there would be no need to subsidise them as the competitor would take over when one of them drops out.
Without knowing too much about the routes around that area, I will agree with what you said about the services not going anywhere useful. It seem to me like all these estate routes are just being tacked on to other similar routes rather than being integrated into ones that visit actual places.
(16 Feb 2020, 5:38 pm)Michael With the chaages to services coming up in North Tyneside, i wonder if the first of the 10 reg Solo's will get withdrawn from Percy Main?, sure it was Dan who mentioned it somewhere, that they'll be the first Solo's to go.
(16 Feb 2020, 5:38 pm)Michael With the chaages to services coming up in North Tyneside, i wonder if the first of the 10 reg Solo's will get withdrawn from Percy Main?, sure it was Dan who mentioned it somewhere, that they'll be the first Solo's to go.
(16 Feb 2020, 5:43 pm)Tom Some of them sound awful.
Even without knowing the whole details of the changes, at least 2 can be withdrawn with the W1/W1A passing into GCT.
(16 Feb 2020, 5:43 pm)Tom Some of them sound awful.
Even without knowing the whole details of the changes, at least 2 can be withdrawn with the W1/W1A passing into GCT.
(16 Feb 2020, 5:56 pm)Michael With the changes to the routes, maybe 1 or 2 more could get withdrawn.
698 - 704 - 10 reg, however have all been branded as "Little Coaster"
705 is the other 10 reg with 709, 2009 model.
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How long are the Solo's normally kept, is it 12 years?
What about the other buses, how long are they kept for, before they're normally replaced?
(16 Feb 2020, 5:56 pm)Michael With the changes to the routes, maybe 1 or 2 more could get withdrawn.
698 - 704 - 10 reg, however have all been branded as "Little Coaster"
705 is the other 10 reg with 709, 2009 model.
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How long are the Solo's normally kept, is it 12 years?
What about the other buses, how long are they kept for, before they're normally replaced?
(20 Feb 2020, 11:34 am)Tom GCT have registered the 335 going to North Shields from the 22nd March - provides some good links for Hadrian Park, and also from North Shields to key business areas like Quorum.
However this pretty much confirms the 42 and 42A will be scrapped from North Shields - i’d say that’s a PVR reduction of 3 or 4 without looking.
Looks like the 19 will also be scraped from Ashington to Northumberland Park, PVR reduction of 2.
GCT have also registered the 41 and 42/42A which i guess is evening and Sunday’s.
I believe the 11 PVR will increase by 1 as from what i’ve heard it’ll be serving Holy Cross.
What i would guess will happen, is the 40 and 41 will be every 15 minutes throughout the whole route, partially replacing the 42 and 42A?
(20 Feb 2020, 11:34 am)Tom GCT have registered the 335 going to North Shields from the 22nd March - provides some good links for Hadrian Park, and also from North Shields to key business areas like Quorum.
However this pretty much confirms the 42 and 42A will be scrapped from North Shields - i’d say that’s a PVR reduction of 3 or 4 without looking.
Looks like the 19 will also be scraped from Ashington to Northumberland Park, PVR reduction of 2.
GCT have also registered the 41 and 42/42A which i guess is evening and Sunday’s.
I believe the 11 PVR will increase by 1 as from what i’ve heard it’ll be serving Holy Cross.
What i would guess will happen, is the 40 and 41 will be every 15 minutes throughout the whole route, partially replacing the 42 and 42A?
(20 Feb 2020, 11:56 am)JP6004 Typical, services being spliced, therefore raising fares for customers!! Same happened in washington few years ago. Totally pointless and problematic
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