Arriva North East service levels during the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic
Arriva North East service levels during the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic
(10 Apr 2020, 1:47 pm)scanialover Would suggest that Arriva, at least Dormanstown and Stockton which are on my patch, are rotating vehicles, as opposed to taking a number out of service. Don't get to see that many due to keeping to the guidelines but that's what it looks like. Anyone else got any thoughts.
(10 Apr 2020, 1:47 pm)scanialover Would suggest that Arriva, at least Dormanstown and Stockton which are on my patch, are rotating vehicles, as opposed to taking a number out of service. Don't get to see that many due to keeping to the guidelines but that's what it looks like. Anyone else got any thoughts.
(09 Apr 2020, 11:43 pm)mb134 For Jesmond it'll be to provide increased capacity.
Ashington and Blyth using MPDs may also be due to seats, or even how reliable/fuel efficient they are. Possibly also if the MPDs have recently had MOTs etc then they'll need less work done to them.
I imagine, as said above, though that Arriva's engineering has looked at it and decided that it might be better to keep as much of the fleet as possible in use in rotation.
(10 Apr 2020, 1:47 pm)scanialover Would suggest that Arriva, at least Dormanstown and Stockton which are on my patch, are rotating vehicles, as opposed to taking a number out of service. Don't get to see that many due to keeping to the guidelines but that's what it looks like. Anyone else got any thoughts.
(09 Apr 2020, 11:43 pm)mb134 For Jesmond it'll be to provide increased capacity.
Ashington and Blyth using MPDs may also be due to seats, or even how reliable/fuel efficient they are. Possibly also if the MPDs have recently had MOTs etc then they'll need less work done to them.
I imagine, as said above, though that Arriva's engineering has looked at it and decided that it might be better to keep as much of the fleet as possible in use in rotation.
(10 Apr 2020, 1:47 pm)scanialover Would suggest that Arriva, at least Dormanstown and Stockton which are on my patch, are rotating vehicles, as opposed to taking a number out of service. Don't get to see that many due to keeping to the guidelines but that's what it looks like. Anyone else got any thoughts.
Vehicles have been taken off. They have notices in them regarding corona virus and instructing not to remove parts.
I believe which have come off is partly due to which are due to come up for test?
As you can only get a refund for a full month if they weren't delicensed until after 1st April they won't save anything unless they are still delicensed at the end of May?
I would hope it's not going on that long!
Go along with that. Vehicles that are approaching their test date and those that are, shall I say, potentially unreliable, should really be confined to the depot. Maybe give engineering the chance to work on these.
MPDs are withdrawn at Ashington. StreetLites operating in their place.
(10 Apr 2020, 3:10 pm)Cock Robin Vehicles have been taken off. They have notices in them regarding corona virus and instructing not to remove parts.
I believe which have come off is partly due to which are due to come up for test?
As you can only get a refund for a full month if they weren't delicensed until after 1st April they won't save anything unless they are still delicensed at the end of May?
I would hope it's not going on that long!
(10 Apr 2020, 3:10 pm)Cock Robin Vehicles have been taken off. They have notices in them regarding corona virus and instructing not to remove parts.
I believe which have come off is partly due to which are due to come up for test?
As you can only get a refund for a full month if they weren't delicensed until after 1st April they won't save anything unless they are still delicensed at the end of May?
I would hope it's not going on that long!
(10 Apr 2020, 4:17 pm)omnicity4659 MPDs are withdrawn at Ashington. StreetLites operating in their place.
(10 Apr 2020, 5:00 pm)Storx Are you sure about that? The past week it's been the 2 Streetlites and 1800 and 1801 running the 57/57A. Haven't seen a Solo in weeks now.
(10 Apr 2020, 4:17 pm)omnicity4659 MPDs are withdrawn at Ashington. StreetLites operating in their place.
(10 Apr 2020, 5:00 pm)Storx Are you sure about that? The past week it's been the 2 Streetlites and 1800 and 1801 running the 57/57A. Haven't seen a Solo in weeks now.
(09 Apr 2020, 8:24 pm)Storx Just curious does anyone know how Arriva Northumbria have decided which buses are still on the road as there's some very bizarre choices. Ashington And Blyth keeping darts on the road and taking the Solos off. Jesmond taking the whole streetlite fleet off yet keeping the 51/02 plate Volve B7TL's on the road are just a couple. Surely the darts and 18 year old deckers can't be more economical than newer stuff and there's newer Enviro's off the road at Jesmond aswell or are these just all knackered?Belmont's allocations are heinz 57, too.
Edit: then again it doesn't like they've actually withdrawn anything as everything is still taxed.
Also am I right in saying the 57 on Sundays and evening is ran 1 bus from Blyth and 1 bus from Ashington now. Notice there's a Streetlite and a Gemini 2 on which is a bit overkill.
(09 Apr 2020, 8:24 pm)Storx Just curious does anyone know how Arriva Northumbria have decided which buses are still on the road as there's some very bizarre choices. Ashington And Blyth keeping darts on the road and taking the Solos off. Jesmond taking the whole streetlite fleet off yet keeping the 51/02 plate Volve B7TL's on the road are just a couple. Surely the darts and 18 year old deckers can't be more economical than newer stuff and there's newer Enviro's off the road at Jesmond aswell or are these just all knackered?Belmont's allocations are heinz 57, too.
Edit: then again it doesn't like they've actually withdrawn anything as everything is still taxed.
Also am I right in saying the 57 on Sundays and evening is ran 1 bus from Blyth and 1 bus from Ashington now. Notice there's a Streetlite and a Gemini 2 on which is a bit overkill.
(11 Apr 2020, 7:06 pm)mb134 Both MPDs still being used by Ashington. Only things taken off there completely are the Volvos and Scanias AFAIK.
(11 Apr 2020, 7:06 pm)mb134 Both MPDs still being used by Ashington. Only things taken off there completely are the Volvos and Scanias AFAIK.
I wonder just how many buses would be running if our government hadn't stepped in? I've just had to dash up and back to Durham from M'hro, collect some important documents and whilst we're grateful to Arriva and its staff there wasn't more than a good car full on three services. A Stockon based VDL took me north with 4 passengers. I was the only one in Darlington operated 1610 and 4804 (?) on the journey back !! Obviously all operators are to be commended for what they are doing but the question remains ? Would they if there wasn't the funding ?
(12 Apr 2020, 3:05 pm)scanialover I wonder just how many buses would be running if our government hadn't stepped in? I've just had to dash up and back to Durham from M'hro, collect some important documents and whilst we're grateful to Arriva and its staff there wasn't more than a good car full on three services. A Stockon based VDL took me north with 4 passengers. I was the only one in Darlington operated 1610 and 4804 (?) on the journey back !! Obviously all operators are to be commended for what they are doing but the question remains ? Would they if there wasn't the funding ?
(12 Apr 2020, 3:05 pm)scanialover I wonder just how many buses would be running if our government hadn't stepped in? I've just had to dash up and back to Durham from M'hro, collect some important documents and whilst we're grateful to Arriva and its staff there wasn't more than a good car full on three services. A Stockon based VDL took me north with 4 passengers. I was the only one in Darlington operated 1610 and 4804 (?) on the journey back !! Obviously all operators are to be commended for what they are doing but the question remains ? Would they if there wasn't the funding ?
Interesting that Dan. I was under the impression, perhaps naively, that the funding package paid for everything. Maybe when you get chance you can enlighten us?
(12 Apr 2020, 3:21 pm)scanialover Interesting that Dan. I was under the impression, perhaps naively, that the funding package paid for everything. Maybe when you get chance you can enlighten us?As far as I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, the 'bail out' is only supposed to bridge the gap between the income and the costs of running the reduced services, so it essential allows them to break even.
(12 Apr 2020, 3:21 pm)scanialover Interesting that Dan. I was under the impression, perhaps naively, that the funding package paid for everything. Maybe when you get chance you can enlighten us?As far as I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, the 'bail out' is only supposed to bridge the gap between the income and the costs of running the reduced services, so it essential allows them to break even.
(12 Apr 2020, 4:17 pm)streetdeckfan As far as I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, the 'bail out' is only supposed to bridge the gap between the income and the costs of running the reduced services, so it essential allows them to break even.
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(12 Apr 2020, 4:17 pm)streetdeckfan As far as I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, the 'bail out' is only supposed to bridge the gap between the income and the costs of running the reduced services, so it essential allows them to break even.
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(12 Apr 2020, 3:05 pm)scanialover I wonder just how many buses would be running if our government hadn't stepped in? I've just had to dash up and back to Durham from M'hro, collect some important documents and whilst we're grateful to Arriva and its staff there wasn't more than a good car full on three services. A Stockon based VDL took me north with 4 passengers. I was the only one in Darlington operated 1610 and 4804 (?) on the journey back !! Obviously all operators are to be commended for what they are doing but the question remains ? Would they if there wasn't the funding ?Everything passing us is pretty much empty, too.
(12 Apr 2020, 3:05 pm)scanialover I wonder just how many buses would be running if our government hadn't stepped in? I've just had to dash up and back to Durham from M'hro, collect some important documents and whilst we're grateful to Arriva and its staff there wasn't more than a good car full on three services. A Stockon based VDL took me north with 4 passengers. I was the only one in Darlington operated 1610 and 4804 (?) on the journey back !! Obviously all operators are to be commended for what they are doing but the question remains ? Would they if there wasn't the funding ?Everything passing us is pretty much empty, too.
Maybe try and get those in Arrivaland to come out and start talking? Our buses, not many of them admittedly, are still running and drivers still doing the very important job of keeping those who need to travel to do just that. Can't be easy? Be good to hear if anyone has anything to say about Arriva in the unprecedented and troublesome times
(22 Apr 2020, 4:27 pm)scanialover Maybe try and get those in Arrivaland to come out and start talking? Our buses, not many of them admittedly, are still running and drivers still doing the very important job of keeping those who need to travel to do just that. Can't be easy? Be good to hear if anyone has anything to say about Arriva in the unprecedented and troublesome timesI think in the given circumstances, all NE operators are going out of their way to keep people moving to hats off to them including Arriva!
(22 Apr 2020, 4:27 pm)scanialover Maybe try and get those in Arrivaland to come out and start talking? Our buses, not many of them admittedly, are still running and drivers still doing the very important job of keeping those who need to travel to do just that. Can't be easy? Be good to hear if anyone has anything to say about Arriva in the unprecedented and troublesome timesI think in the given circumstances, all NE operators are going out of their way to keep people moving to hats off to them including Arriva!
