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Arriva North East: Rare & Odd Workings - September 2020

Arriva North East: Rare & Odd Workings - September 2020

 
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12 Sep 2020, 6:01 pm #1
I shall be in Middlesbrough and east Yorkshire next week. I am hoping to ride a MAX Volvo B9TL on route X93 or X94 from Middlesbrough through to Scarborough. I am willing to catch route X4 to Whitby and connect with a Volvo B9TL there if it makes all the difference. Mind you, it might not as route X4 takes so much longer to reach Whitby.

Looking on Flickr, I have seen occasional other buses from Redcar garage on route X93. My most likely buses are the 8.50 X94, 9.20 X93 or 9.50 X94 from Middlesbrough.

As far as any of you know, is one of the above journeys definitely operated by Whitby garage and therefore (barring anything unforeseen) a Volvo B9TL?

I thank any of you who can let me know!
MetrolineGA1511
12 Sep 2020, 6:01 pm #1

I shall be in Middlesbrough and east Yorkshire next week. I am hoping to ride a MAX Volvo B9TL on route X93 or X94 from Middlesbrough through to Scarborough. I am willing to catch route X4 to Whitby and connect with a Volvo B9TL there if it makes all the difference. Mind you, it might not as route X4 takes so much longer to reach Whitby.

Looking on Flickr, I have seen occasional other buses from Redcar garage on route X93. My most likely buses are the 8.50 X94, 9.20 X93 or 9.50 X94 from Middlesbrough.

As far as any of you know, is one of the above journeys definitely operated by Whitby garage and therefore (barring anything unforeseen) a Volvo B9TL?

I thank any of you who can let me know!

peter



993
12 Sep 2020, 6:23 pm #2
(12 Sep 2020, 6:01 pm)Metroline1511 I shall be in Middlesbrough and east Yorkshire next week.  I am hoping to ride a MAX Volvo B9TL on route X93 or X94 from Middlesbrough through to Scarborough.  I am willing to catch route X4 to Whitby and connect with a Volvo B9TL there if it makes all the difference.  Mind you, it might not as route X4 takes so much longer to reach Whitby.

Looking on Flickr, I have seen occasional other buses from Redcar garage on route X93.  My most likely buses are the 8.50 X94, 9.20 X93 or 9.50 X94 from Middlesbrough.

As far as any of you know, is one of the above journeys definitely operated by Whitby garage and therefore (barring anything unforeseen) a Volvo B9TL?

I thank any of you who can let me know!

On paper, the X93 journey should be a B9 as this operates to/from Whitby, while the two X94 journeys would be operated by B7TL's or something else as they start/finish at Middlesbrough and hence are operated by Redcar. 

In reality this is not the case, as Whitby is an outstation of Redcar it seems to be a lot more fluid. For example last week (excluding Tuesday where trackers weren't working in the morning) the 8:50 was run by a B9 3 days and a B7 one day, and the 9:50 was also run by a B9 3 days but also a Pulsar one day. Whereas the 9.20 was only run by a B9 2 days, a B7 the other day and a Temsa the other. So it'll probably be a case of being lucky as to what turns up on the day!
peter
12 Sep 2020, 6:23 pm #2

(12 Sep 2020, 6:01 pm)Metroline1511 I shall be in Middlesbrough and east Yorkshire next week.  I am hoping to ride a MAX Volvo B9TL on route X93 or X94 from Middlesbrough through to Scarborough.  I am willing to catch route X4 to Whitby and connect with a Volvo B9TL there if it makes all the difference.  Mind you, it might not as route X4 takes so much longer to reach Whitby.

Looking on Flickr, I have seen occasional other buses from Redcar garage on route X93.  My most likely buses are the 8.50 X94, 9.20 X93 or 9.50 X94 from Middlesbrough.

As far as any of you know, is one of the above journeys definitely operated by Whitby garage and therefore (barring anything unforeseen) a Volvo B9TL?

I thank any of you who can let me know!

On paper, the X93 journey should be a B9 as this operates to/from Whitby, while the two X94 journeys would be operated by B7TL's or something else as they start/finish at Middlesbrough and hence are operated by Redcar. 

In reality this is not the case, as Whitby is an outstation of Redcar it seems to be a lot more fluid. For example last week (excluding Tuesday where trackers weren't working in the morning) the 8:50 was run by a B9 3 days and a B7 one day, and the 9:50 was also run by a B9 3 days but also a Pulsar one day. Whereas the 9.20 was only run by a B9 2 days, a B7 the other day and a Temsa the other. So it'll probably be a case of being lucky as to what turns up on the day!

tyresmoke



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12 Sep 2020, 6:42 pm #3
When I did 4 days on the 18 last week it connected with the 0750 X94 in Guisborough from Middlesbrough on the school holiday times, and three days out of four that was a B9, the other being a B7, and that's a Redcar bus. Pulsars have been used a fair bit on the 0850 and 0950 in recent weeks. 0920 pretty much nailed on a decker but often 7424 can appear on that one.

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tyresmoke
12 Sep 2020, 6:42 pm #3

When I did 4 days on the 18 last week it connected with the 0750 X94 in Guisborough from Middlesbrough on the school holiday times, and three days out of four that was a B9, the other being a B7, and that's a Redcar bus. Pulsars have been used a fair bit on the 0850 and 0950 in recent weeks. 0920 pretty much nailed on a decker but often 7424 can appear on that one.


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Kuyoyo



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12 Sep 2020, 6:51 pm #4
On Bus Times (which for some reason, isn't showing any Arriva vehicles on the map and the main fleetlist page shows the last tracked times as around 2-half 2 yesterday but the vehicle pages do have their tracking data from today) lists today's X93/X94 allocation as
Departures from Middlesbrough
0750 X94 (Redcar working): B7 7426
0850 X94: B9 7402
0920 X93 (Whitby working): B7 7424
0950 X94: Pulsar 1436
1020 X93: B9 7406
1120 X93: B9 7401
1220 X93: B9 7404
1320 X93: B9 7405

7425 is showing as last being used last Tuesday (1st September) while 7403 was out on the early X94 working yesterday.
Kuyoyo
12 Sep 2020, 6:51 pm #4

On Bus Times (which for some reason, isn't showing any Arriva vehicles on the map and the main fleetlist page shows the last tracked times as around 2-half 2 yesterday but the vehicle pages do have their tracking data from today) lists today's X93/X94 allocation as
Departures from Middlesbrough
0750 X94 (Redcar working): B7 7426
0850 X94: B9 7402
0920 X93 (Whitby working): B7 7424
0950 X94: Pulsar 1436
1020 X93: B9 7406
1120 X93: B9 7401
1220 X93: B9 7404
1320 X93: B9 7405

7425 is showing as last being used last Tuesday (1st September) while 7403 was out on the early X94 working yesterday.

12 Sep 2020, 10:16 pm #5
(12 Sep 2020, 6:23 pm)peter On paper, the X93 journey should be a B9 as this operates to/from Whitby, while the two X94 journeys would be operated by B7TL's or something else as they start/finish at Middlesbrough and hence are operated by Redcar. 

In reality this is not the case, as Whitby is an outstation of Redcar it seems to be a lot more fluid. For example last week (excluding Tuesday where trackers weren't working in the morning) the 8:50 was run by a B9 3 days and a B7 one day, and the 9:50 was also run by a B9 3 days but also a Pulsar one day. Whereas the 9.20 was only run by a B9 2 days, a B7 the other day and a Temsa the other. So it'll probably be a case of being lucky as to what turns up on the day!

(12 Sep 2020, 6:42 pm)tyresmoke When I did 4 days on the 18 last week it connected with the 0750 X94 in Guisborough from Middlesbrough on the school holiday times, and three days out of four that was a B9, the other being a B7, and that's a Redcar bus. Pulsars have been used a fair bit on the 0850 and 0950 in recent weeks. 0920 pretty much nailed on a decker but often 7424 can appear on that one.

Thank you both for preparing me that the B9TL is not guaranteed on any specific journey.  I admit I did not allow for Whitby being an outstation to Redcar.  Fortunately, allowing for onward connections by East Yorkshire buses, I can afford to leave Middlesbrough by 10.20 at the latest.  So, I intend to aim for the 8.50 on the basis of a potential wait but a likely (though not certain) opportunity to ride a B9TL in the end.  I am certainly ignoring the X4 now.

Thank you @Kuyoyo for your report too. Sorry I've only just spotted it.
MetrolineGA1511
12 Sep 2020, 10:16 pm #5

(12 Sep 2020, 6:23 pm)peter On paper, the X93 journey should be a B9 as this operates to/from Whitby, while the two X94 journeys would be operated by B7TL's or something else as they start/finish at Middlesbrough and hence are operated by Redcar. 

In reality this is not the case, as Whitby is an outstation of Redcar it seems to be a lot more fluid. For example last week (excluding Tuesday where trackers weren't working in the morning) the 8:50 was run by a B9 3 days and a B7 one day, and the 9:50 was also run by a B9 3 days but also a Pulsar one day. Whereas the 9.20 was only run by a B9 2 days, a B7 the other day and a Temsa the other. So it'll probably be a case of being lucky as to what turns up on the day!

(12 Sep 2020, 6:42 pm)tyresmoke When I did 4 days on the 18 last week it connected with the 0750 X94 in Guisborough from Middlesbrough on the school holiday times, and three days out of four that was a B9, the other being a B7, and that's a Redcar bus. Pulsars have been used a fair bit on the 0850 and 0950 in recent weeks. 0920 pretty much nailed on a decker but often 7424 can appear on that one.

Thank you both for preparing me that the B9TL is not guaranteed on any specific journey.  I admit I did not allow for Whitby being an outstation to Redcar.  Fortunately, allowing for onward connections by East Yorkshire buses, I can afford to leave Middlesbrough by 10.20 at the latest.  So, I intend to aim for the 8.50 on the basis of a potential wait but a likely (though not certain) opportunity to ride a B9TL in the end.  I am certainly ignoring the X4 now.

Thank you @Kuyoyo for your report too. Sorry I've only just spotted it.

ross13



99
14 Sep 2020, 5:57 pm #6
Ecocity 4814 was on the 9/4s this evening
ross13
14 Sep 2020, 5:57 pm #6

Ecocity 4814 was on the 9/4s this evening

Andreos1



14,200
14 Sep 2020, 6:20 pm #7
63 branded Pulsar on the X4 this afternoon. 
Not sure what the crack is with the X3, but there seems to be more and more Streetlites appearing as opposed to the Temsas.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
14 Sep 2020, 6:20 pm #7

63 branded Pulsar on the X4 this afternoon. 
Not sure what the crack is with the X3, but there seems to be more and more Streetlites appearing as opposed to the Temsas.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

15 Sep 2020, 12:30 pm #8
Darlington’s 0622 is currently on the 13:03 service 1 from Bishop Auckland to Darlington which in turn should be the 14:00 X1 to Tow Law unless it gets swapped over
Stuartphin1639
15 Sep 2020, 12:30 pm #8

Darlington’s 0622 is currently on the 13:03 service 1 from Bishop Auckland to Darlington which in turn should be the 14:00 X1 to Tow Law unless it gets swapped over

tyresmoke



5,318
15 Sep 2020, 5:15 pm #9
(14 Sep 2020, 6:20 pm)Andreos1 63 branded Pulsar on the X4 this afternoon. 
Not sure what the crack is with the X3, but there seems to be more and more Streetlites appearing as opposed to the Temsas.
X3 will be a mix of Streetlites and Temsas - not sure what the total PVR for X3/64 is but the X4 is 8 so that only leaves 5 Streetlites spare (if they're all out) so the balance will be made up of Temsas.

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tyresmoke
15 Sep 2020, 5:15 pm #9

(14 Sep 2020, 6:20 pm)Andreos1 63 branded Pulsar on the X4 this afternoon. 
Not sure what the crack is with the X3, but there seems to be more and more Streetlites appearing as opposed to the Temsas.
X3 will be a mix of Streetlites and Temsas - not sure what the total PVR for X3/64 is but the X4 is 8 so that only leaves 5 Streetlites spare (if they're all out) so the balance will be made up of Temsas.


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peter



993
15 Sep 2020, 5:26 pm #10
(15 Sep 2020, 5:15 pm)tyresmoke X3 will be a mix of Streetlites and Temsas - not sure what the total PVR for X3/64 is but the X4 is 8 so that only leaves 5 Streetlites spare (if they're all out) so the balance will be made up of Temsas.

I have a combined PVR of 11 for the X3, X3A, 64 and 64A. There's 14 Streetlites at Redcar so that actually leaves 6 available for the X3 group, with the remaining 5 running boards made up of Temsa's (in reality there'll be more Temsa's as it's unlikely every Streetlite will be on the road at once.)
peter
15 Sep 2020, 5:26 pm #10

(15 Sep 2020, 5:15 pm)tyresmoke X3 will be a mix of Streetlites and Temsas - not sure what the total PVR for X3/64 is but the X4 is 8 so that only leaves 5 Streetlites spare (if they're all out) so the balance will be made up of Temsas.

I have a combined PVR of 11 for the X3, X3A, 64 and 64A. There's 14 Streetlites at Redcar so that actually leaves 6 available for the X3 group, with the remaining 5 running boards made up of Temsa's (in reality there'll be more Temsa's as it's unlikely every Streetlite will be on the road at once.)

Lottie332



181
18 Sep 2020, 11:34 am #11
614 17A
Lottie332
18 Sep 2020, 11:34 am #11

614 17A

Kuyoyo



6,853
19 Sep 2020, 9:20 am #12
For anyone looking to find 614, it’s on 17s today - currently on the 1000 from Middlesbrough to Kingsmead.
Kuyoyo
19 Sep 2020, 9:20 am #12

For anyone looking to find 614, it’s on 17s today - currently on the 1000 from Middlesbrough to Kingsmead.

Ryland



461
19 Sep 2020, 12:55 pm #13
1436 on the 62 today
Ryland
19 Sep 2020, 12:55 pm #13

1436 on the 62 today

20 Sep 2020, 9:59 am #14
I caught route X93 on Thursday as planned. As I was offered an earlier breakfast at Premier Inn at Middlesbrough, I caught route X4 to Whitby (Streetlite 1562) in case it gave me more choice there. When I arrived there was an X94 worked by a Silver Gemini branded for Whitby Park & Ride. The next bus was an X93, the 9.20 from Middlesbrough, which was a Volvo B9TL as hoped (7406)!

I did see a MAX former London VLA too.
MetrolineGA1511
20 Sep 2020, 9:59 am #14

I caught route X93 on Thursday as planned. As I was offered an earlier breakfast at Premier Inn at Middlesbrough, I caught route X4 to Whitby (Streetlite 1562) in case it gave me more choice there. When I arrived there was an X94 worked by a Silver Gemini branded for Whitby Park & Ride. The next bus was an X93, the 9.20 from Middlesbrough, which was a Volvo B9TL as hoped (7406)!

I did see a MAX former London VLA too.

Andreos1



14,200
21 Sep 2020, 6:14 pm #15
1437 on the X3 earlier.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
21 Sep 2020, 6:14 pm #15

1437 on the X3 earlier.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

GNE6312



1,091
21 Sep 2020, 8:06 pm #16
7445 on the 57/57A as part of an eventfull 7 days
GNE6312
21 Sep 2020, 8:06 pm #16

7445 on the 57/57A as part of an eventfull 7 days

Storx



4,563
22 Sep 2020, 10:22 am #17
(21 Sep 2020, 8:06 pm)GNE6312 7445 on the 57/57A as part of an eventfull 7 days

It's not that rare to have a decker on the 57/57A (it's 7510 on today); as there seems to be 2 minis off the road (again) - which is common tbh. They badly need something to replace 1800/1801 and 3 Solos which are battered at Ashington.

Blyth tend to like putting Gemini's and Pulsars on their random runs (One of the Max Gemini's was on the other night, yet they had a 308 Gemini on the X7 - not to confuse people).
Storx
22 Sep 2020, 10:22 am #17

(21 Sep 2020, 8:06 pm)GNE6312 7445 on the 57/57A as part of an eventfull 7 days

It's not that rare to have a decker on the 57/57A (it's 7510 on today); as there seems to be 2 minis off the road (again) - which is common tbh. They badly need something to replace 1800/1801 and 3 Solos which are battered at Ashington.

Blyth tend to like putting Gemini's and Pulsars on their random runs (One of the Max Gemini's was on the other night, yet they had a 308 Gemini on the X7 - not to confuse people).

23 Sep 2020, 3:55 pm #18
0622 currently on Sapphire 7 16:17 from Darlington
4650 on Sapphire 1/5/5A/X1 16:10 from Darlington
4649 on Sapphire 1/5/5A/X1/86 16:20 from Darlington
Stuartphin1639
23 Sep 2020, 3:55 pm #18

0622 currently on Sapphire 7 16:17 from Darlington
4650 on Sapphire 1/5/5A/X1 16:10 from Darlington
4649 on Sapphire 1/5/5A/X1/86 16:20 from Darlington

25 Sep 2020, 7:33 pm #19
7508 on 47 yesterday.
neilwatson
25 Sep 2020, 7:33 pm #19

7508 on 47 yesterday.

26 Sep 2020, 12:35 pm #20
One of the reasons I came to Middlesbrough last week rather than this week was in case the route X93 Volvo B9TLs were used on the rail replacement service between Middlesbrough and Whitby. Maybe this service has not been operated by Arriva or has used other vehicles instead.
MetrolineGA1511
26 Sep 2020, 12:35 pm #20

One of the reasons I came to Middlesbrough last week rather than this week was in case the route X93 Volvo B9TLs were used on the rail replacement service between Middlesbrough and Whitby. Maybe this service has not been operated by Arriva or has used other vehicles instead.

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