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26 May 2021, 8:20 pm #81
Are GNE going to scrap 9055 when duplicates are no longer required? 9054 is on loan from Metrobus, unlike 9055 which they had withdrawn I believe and it carries the only colours.

I like 9055, and have been attempting to get a video and photo of it, but never know where it's going to be. The duplicates use the same buses, just allocated to different services each day.
OrangeArrow49
26 May 2021, 8:20 pm #81

Are GNE going to scrap 9055 when duplicates are no longer required? 9054 is on loan from Metrobus, unlike 9055 which they had withdrawn I believe and it carries the only colours.

I like 9055, and have been attempting to get a video and photo of it, but never know where it's going to be. The duplicates use the same buses, just allocated to different services each day.

GNE6312



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26 May 2021, 8:50 pm #82
(26 May 2021, 8:20 pm)OrangeArrow49 Are GNE going to scrap 9055 when duplicates are no longer required? 9054 is on loan from Metrobus, unlike 9055 which they had withdrawn I believe and it carries the only colours.

I like 9055, and have been attempting to get a video and photo of it, but never know where it's going to be. The duplicates use the same buses, just allocated to different services each day.
What service did u get 9055 on thought they only done school duplicates
GNE6312
26 May 2021, 8:50 pm #82

(26 May 2021, 8:20 pm)OrangeArrow49 Are GNE going to scrap 9055 when duplicates are no longer required? 9054 is on loan from Metrobus, unlike 9055 which they had withdrawn I believe and it carries the only colours.

I like 9055, and have been attempting to get a video and photo of it, but never know where it's going to be. The duplicates use the same buses, just allocated to different services each day.
What service did u get 9055 on thought they only done school duplicates

26 May 2021, 8:56 pm #83
(26 May 2021, 8:50 pm)GNE6312 What service did u get 9055 on thought they only done school duplicates

Yes, 9055 is only doing school duplicates. Just been attempting to video/photograph it passing on a duplicate. Usually does the service 1 duplicate. Would be nice to ride it, but sadly it will never happen!
OrangeArrow49
26 May 2021, 8:56 pm #83

(26 May 2021, 8:50 pm)GNE6312 What service did u get 9055 on thought they only done school duplicates

Yes, 9055 is only doing school duplicates. Just been attempting to video/photograph it passing on a duplicate. Usually does the service 1 duplicate. Would be nice to ride it, but sadly it will never happen!

29 May 2021, 8:14 pm #84
(25 May 2021, 9:56 pm)Storx That was August last year Tongue

Back then it was 698 - 705 (possibly more can't remember if the 58 plates had gone by then). Most are gone now though. Something does need upgrading for the 74 though if the upcoming LEZ comes in as they're only Euro 5 bar the Cathedral 3.

Sincere apologies for my stupid mistake! What kind of upgrade for the 74? Just upgrade the current fleet to Euro 6? I'd like new buses on the 42/42A and 74, with NSAs. Minibuses are perfectly adequate for those services, and I guess Solos are the best minibuses. Was surprised to see a StreetLite on the 74 yesterday.
OrangeArrow49
29 May 2021, 8:14 pm #84

(25 May 2021, 9:56 pm)Storx That was August last year Tongue

Back then it was 698 - 705 (possibly more can't remember if the 58 plates had gone by then). Most are gone now though. Something does need upgrading for the 74 though if the upcoming LEZ comes in as they're only Euro 5 bar the Cathedral 3.

Sincere apologies for my stupid mistake! What kind of upgrade for the 74? Just upgrade the current fleet to Euro 6? I'd like new buses on the 42/42A and 74, with NSAs. Minibuses are perfectly adequate for those services, and I guess Solos are the best minibuses. Was surprised to see a StreetLite on the 74 yesterday.

Keeiajs

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10 Aug 2021, 10:27 pm #85
We know GNE have ordered 8 more E10's Presumably for 57. 

But do you think GNE will announce any other orders this year or in 2022. Personally I think they need to replace the OmniDekka GNE relays too heavy on them especially how they are over 15 years old.
Keeiajs
10 Aug 2021, 10:27 pm #85

We know GNE have ordered 8 more E10's Presumably for 57. 

But do you think GNE will announce any other orders this year or in 2022. Personally I think they need to replace the OmniDekka GNE relays too heavy on them especially how they are over 15 years old.

N1cholas



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11 Aug 2021, 7:46 am #86
No orders this year and a very slim chance next year, 2023 is looking more optimistic but it has been said that no more diesel decker's will be ordered so it will be zero emission vehicles like electric (which a decker is currently on trial) to get the company carbon zero, until then it will be second hand newer vehicles sourced from elsewhere if the older vehicles are no longer economically feasible to repair, in 15 years the whole fleet will probably be electric powered
N1cholas
11 Aug 2021, 7:46 am #86

No orders this year and a very slim chance next year, 2023 is looking more optimistic but it has been said that no more diesel decker's will be ordered so it will be zero emission vehicles like electric (which a decker is currently on trial) to get the company carbon zero, until then it will be second hand newer vehicles sourced from elsewhere if the older vehicles are no longer economically feasible to repair, in 15 years the whole fleet will probably be electric powered

Michael



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11 Aug 2021, 7:50 am #87
(10 Aug 2021, 10:27 pm)Keeiajs We know GNE have ordered 8 more E10's Presumably for 57. 

But do you think GNE will announce any other orders this year or in 2022. Personally I think they need to replace the OmniDekka GNE relays too heavy on them especially how they are over 15 years old.

I agree the 57 is now a candidate for the extra electric buses - no doubt they'll be Yutong, as the current ones are really liked.


Lets hope GNE get some of this funding from the ZEBRA programme, they would replace quite a few buses on the routes.

(11 Aug 2021, 7:46 am)N1cholas No orders this year and a very slim chance next year, 2023 is looking more optimistic but it has been said that no more diesel decker's will be ordered so it will be zero emission vehicles like electric (which a decker is currently on trial) to get the company carbon zero, until then it will be second hand newer vehicles sourced from elsewhere if the older vehicles are no longer economically feasible to repair, in 15 years the whole fleet will probably be electric powered

Not surprised at all, everyone's in the same boat - would be good to see more electric buses around the North East so lets hope they get some of those 73 buses from the ZEBRA programme.
Edited 11 Aug 2021, 7:54 am by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Aug 2021, 7:50 am #87

(10 Aug 2021, 10:27 pm)Keeiajs We know GNE have ordered 8 more E10's Presumably for 57. 

But do you think GNE will announce any other orders this year or in 2022. Personally I think they need to replace the OmniDekka GNE relays too heavy on them especially how they are over 15 years old.

I agree the 57 is now a candidate for the extra electric buses - no doubt they'll be Yutong, as the current ones are really liked.


Lets hope GNE get some of this funding from the ZEBRA programme, they would replace quite a few buses on the routes.

(11 Aug 2021, 7:46 am)N1cholas No orders this year and a very slim chance next year, 2023 is looking more optimistic but it has been said that no more diesel decker's will be ordered so it will be zero emission vehicles like electric (which a decker is currently on trial) to get the company carbon zero, until then it will be second hand newer vehicles sourced from elsewhere if the older vehicles are no longer economically feasible to repair, in 15 years the whole fleet will probably be electric powered

Not surprised at all, everyone's in the same boat - would be good to see more electric buses around the North East so lets hope they get some of those 73 buses from the ZEBRA programme.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Keeiajs

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11 Aug 2021, 9:39 am #88
(11 Aug 2021, 7:50 am)Michael I agree the 57 is now a candidate for the extra electric buses - no doubt they'll be Yutong, as the current ones are really liked.


Lets hope GNE get some of this funding from the ZEBRA programme, they would replace quite a few buses on the routes.


Not surprised at all, everyone's in the same boat - would be good to see more electric buses around the North East so lets hope they get some of those 73 buses from the ZEBRA programme.
If I was GNE I would think of replacing the 03/54/55/04/56/ vehicles next those have to go hopefully a large order in 2023.
Keeiajs
11 Aug 2021, 9:39 am #88

(11 Aug 2021, 7:50 am)Michael I agree the 57 is now a candidate for the extra electric buses - no doubt they'll be Yutong, as the current ones are really liked.


Lets hope GNE get some of this funding from the ZEBRA programme, they would replace quite a few buses on the routes.


Not surprised at all, everyone's in the same boat - would be good to see more electric buses around the North East so lets hope they get some of those 73 buses from the ZEBRA programme.
If I was GNE I would think of replacing the 03/54/55/04/56/ vehicles next those have to go hopefully a large order in 2023.

Train8261



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18 Sep 2021, 12:52 pm #89
So while up in Edinburgh. I had a ride on a Volvo B8RLE MCV Evora. They are really decent buses. Would Gne ever consider getting these.

For my guess putting them in service Would be the 6/12/12A

https://flic.kr/p/2mrZyZu (My photo from Edinburgh)
Train8261
18 Sep 2021, 12:52 pm #89

So while up in Edinburgh. I had a ride on a Volvo B8RLE MCV Evora. They are really decent buses. Would Gne ever consider getting these.

For my guess putting them in service Would be the 6/12/12A

https://flic.kr/p/2mrZyZu (My photo from Edinburgh)

18 Sep 2021, 1:28 pm #90
Was up in Edinburgh myself a week ago, didnt get on these vehicles but did get on the tram to the airport and the Airlink 100 back. Also took a spin on lothian 1130 all white at present and the new all electric E400 city 293.

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atlantean560
18 Sep 2021, 1:28 pm #90

Was up in Edinburgh myself a week ago, didnt get on these vehicles but did get on the tram to the airport and the Airlink 100 back. Also took a spin on lothian 1130 all white at present and the new all electric E400 city 293.

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Train8261



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18 Sep 2021, 2:09 pm #91
(18 Sep 2021, 1:28 pm)atlantean560 Was up in Edinburgh myself a week ago, didnt get on these vehicles but did get on the tram to the airport and the Airlink 100 back. Also took a spin on lothian 1130 all white at present and the new all electric E400 city 293.

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If gne were to ever get rid of the Volvo B11RT Plaxton Elite I  they should get them buses that they use on the 100. There stunning buses
Train8261
18 Sep 2021, 2:09 pm #91

(18 Sep 2021, 1:28 pm)atlantean560 Was up in Edinburgh myself a week ago, didnt get on these vehicles but did get on the tram to the airport and the Airlink 100 back. Also took a spin on lothian 1130 all white at present and the new all electric E400 city 293.

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If gne were to ever get rid of the Volvo B11RT Plaxton Elite I  they should get them buses that they use on the 100. There stunning buses

L469 YVK



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18 Sep 2021, 2:13 pm #92
(18 Sep 2021, 12:52 pm)Train8261 So while up in Edinburgh. I had a ride on a Volvo B8RLE MCV Evora. They are really decent buses. Would Gne ever consider getting these.

For my guess putting them in service Would be the 6/12/12A

https://flic.kr/p/2mrZyZu (My photo from Edinburgh)
They're far too heavy duty and the 6/12/12A are secondary routes.
L469 YVK
18 Sep 2021, 2:13 pm #92

(18 Sep 2021, 12:52 pm)Train8261 So while up in Edinburgh. I had a ride on a Volvo B8RLE MCV Evora. They are really decent buses. Would Gne ever consider getting these.

For my guess putting them in service Would be the 6/12/12A

https://flic.kr/p/2mrZyZu (My photo from Edinburgh)
They're far too heavy duty and the 6/12/12A are secondary routes.

18 Sep 2021, 4:24 pm #93
I agree stunning vehicles even on the higher spec airlinks 100, which I think would be suited to the X9/10.

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atlantean560
18 Sep 2021, 4:24 pm #93

I agree stunning vehicles even on the higher spec airlinks 100, which I think would be suited to the X9/10.

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L469 YVK



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18 Sep 2021, 4:47 pm #94
(18 Sep 2021, 4:24 pm)atlantean560 I agree stunning vehicles even on the higher spec airlinks 100, which I think would be suited to the X9/10.

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And where would they end up after 7-8 years?

I'm sure Martijn discussed them during one of the live events he did. Whilst they're very nice and probably very capable vehicles, they'd have no useful life when cascaded or even in the second hand market.

Coaches on the other hand can easily be sold on.
L469 YVK
18 Sep 2021, 4:47 pm #94

(18 Sep 2021, 4:24 pm)atlantean560 I agree stunning vehicles even on the higher spec airlinks 100, which I think would be suited to the X9/10.

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And where would they end up after 7-8 years?

I'm sure Martijn discussed them during one of the live events he did. Whilst they're very nice and probably very capable vehicles, they'd have no useful life when cascaded or even in the second hand market.

Coaches on the other hand can easily be sold on.

03 Oct 2021, 2:43 pm #95
Could imagine GNE Getting the Electric version of the Scania Fencer for the 50 once the Omnicitys have left the service. would be nice to keep the Scanias going on the 50.
Alongs they would get something that can hold a lot and can go quick for the 50 then it will be good.
can be horrible during Summer Holidays from what i experienced in the past when i use to get the 50. got quite packed on the 9:30 or 8:30. to Shields just after Concord
KingSlayerRBLX
03 Oct 2021, 2:43 pm #95

Could imagine GNE Getting the Electric version of the Scania Fencer for the 50 once the Omnicitys have left the service. would be nice to keep the Scanias going on the 50.
Alongs they would get something that can hold a lot and can go quick for the 50 then it will be good.
can be horrible during Summer Holidays from what i experienced in the past when i use to get the 50. got quite packed on the 9:30 or 8:30. to Shields just after Concord

BusLoverMum



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03 Oct 2021, 10:26 pm #96
(03 Oct 2021, 2:43 pm)KingSlayerRBLX Could imagine GNE Getting the Electric version of the Scania Fencer for the 50 once the Omnicitys have left the service. would be nice to keep the Scanias going on the 50.
Alongs they would get something that can hold a lot and can go quick for the 50 then it will be good.
can be horrible during Summer Holidays from what i experienced in the past when i use to get the 50. got quite packed on the 9:30 or 8:30. to Shields just after Concord
The 50 will never have new buses! It does get very busy on parts of its route, mind. Always big queues at the galleries for it.

To tell the truth, I'm surprise it still comes to Durham, mind. This last bit is only ever busy for the school run.
BusLoverMum
03 Oct 2021, 10:26 pm #96

(03 Oct 2021, 2:43 pm)KingSlayerRBLX Could imagine GNE Getting the Electric version of the Scania Fencer for the 50 once the Omnicitys have left the service. would be nice to keep the Scanias going on the 50.
Alongs they would get something that can hold a lot and can go quick for the 50 then it will be good.
can be horrible during Summer Holidays from what i experienced in the past when i use to get the 50. got quite packed on the 9:30 or 8:30. to Shields just after Concord
The 50 will never have new buses! It does get very busy on parts of its route, mind. Always big queues at the galleries for it.

To tell the truth, I'm surprise it still comes to Durham, mind. This last bit is only ever busy for the school run.

Keeiajs

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03 Oct 2021, 10:38 pm #97
(03 Oct 2021, 10:26 pm)BusLoverMum The 50 will never have new buses! It does get very busy on parts of its route, mind. Always big queues at the galleries for it.

To tell the truth, I'm surprise it still comes to Durham, mind. This last bit is only ever busy for the school run.
The 50 gets very busy at Durham actually. But its self I don't think will ever get brand new buses, same with 26/9/5
Keeiajs
03 Oct 2021, 10:38 pm #97

(03 Oct 2021, 10:26 pm)BusLoverMum The 50 will never have new buses! It does get very busy on parts of its route, mind. Always big queues at the galleries for it.

To tell the truth, I'm surprise it still comes to Durham, mind. This last bit is only ever busy for the school run.
The 50 gets very busy at Durham actually. But its self I don't think will ever get brand new buses, same with 26/9/5

Jimmi



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03 Oct 2021, 10:55 pm #98
Think about the best you'll ever get with the 50 is hand me downs from other routes, can see it getting some StreetLites off another route in future once the Omnis can be disposed of from the route and other routes have received orders of new buses.

*would suggest the Citaros currently used on the 4 however unsure if that is an option considering they're Euro 5 and unlikely to be ever made Euro 6 here.
Jimmi
03 Oct 2021, 10:55 pm #98

Think about the best you'll ever get with the 50 is hand me downs from other routes, can see it getting some StreetLites off another route in future once the Omnis can be disposed of from the route and other routes have received orders of new buses.

*would suggest the Citaros currently used on the 4 however unsure if that is an option considering they're Euro 5 and unlikely to be ever made Euro 6 here.

Keeiajs

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03 Oct 2021, 11:33 pm #99
(03 Oct 2021, 10:55 pm)Jimmi Think about the best you'll ever get with the 50 is hand me downs from other routes, can see it getting some StreetLites off another route in future once the Omnis can be disposed of from the route and other routes have received orders of new buses.

*would suggest the Citaros currently used on the 4 however unsure if that is an option considering they're Euro 5 and unlikely to be ever made Euro 6 here.
i think whatever the 50/4 would get would have to be quite high capacity.
Keeiajs
03 Oct 2021, 11:33 pm #99

(03 Oct 2021, 10:55 pm)Jimmi Think about the best you'll ever get with the 50 is hand me downs from other routes, can see it getting some StreetLites off another route in future once the Omnis can be disposed of from the route and other routes have received orders of new buses.

*would suggest the Citaros currently used on the 4 however unsure if that is an option considering they're Euro 5 and unlikely to be ever made Euro 6 here.
i think whatever the 50/4 would get would have to be quite high capacity.

04 Oct 2021, 7:41 am #100
(03 Oct 2021, 10:26 pm)BusLoverMum The 50 will never have new buses! It does get very busy on parts of its route, mind. Always big queues at the galleries for it.

To tell the truth, I'm surprise it still comes to Durham, mind. This last bit is only ever busy for the school run.
As many people on day trips to South Shields have found, the Chester Moor terminators are earlier than ever now. But the 20 is surely better option for Durham daytrippers?
54APhotography
04 Oct 2021, 7:41 am #100

(03 Oct 2021, 10:26 pm)BusLoverMum The 50 will never have new buses! It does get very busy on parts of its route, mind. Always big queues at the galleries for it.

To tell the truth, I'm surprise it still comes to Durham, mind. This last bit is only ever busy for the school run.
As many people on day trips to South Shields have found, the Chester Moor terminators are earlier than ever now. But the 20 is surely better option for Durham daytrippers?

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