Go North East - Future Order Predictions
Go North East - Future Order Predictions
(19 Oct 2021, 12:42 am)Drifter60 This is what happens elsewhere on the network though - the 65 has no depot easily located at either side on the route. So Peterlee presumably have a shuttle to allow changeovers and the same with the 204. And it’s a much shorter drive from Riverside Depot to Blaydon than what it is from Peterlee Depot to Murton or Sherburn Hill to allow changes on those routes. So it surely could happen.
Also the 49/12 both being every 15 minutes. I’m surprised interworking those two at Winlaton hasn’t happened, I know there was an issue of cross tickets/circular around Winlaton but surely if the 12 did one way and the 49 the other then passengers could still travel through onto the 49 to still maintain cross connections.
(19 Oct 2021, 12:42 am)Drifter60 This is what happens elsewhere on the network though - the 65 has no depot easily located at either side on the route. So Peterlee presumably have a shuttle to allow changeovers and the same with the 204. And it’s a much shorter drive from Riverside Depot to Blaydon than what it is from Peterlee Depot to Murton or Sherburn Hill to allow changes on those routes. So it surely could happen.
Also the 49/12 both being every 15 minutes. I’m surprised interworking those two at Winlaton hasn’t happened, I know there was an issue of cross tickets/circular around Winlaton but surely if the 12 did one way and the 49 the other then passengers could still travel through onto the 49 to still maintain cross connections.
(19 Oct 2021, 7:15 pm)Storx I think the interworking of the 6 / 12 is more about for the drivers taking breaks at the Metro Centre rather than getting the drivers onto the buses.65/204 change over at Murton (not sure if its Dalton Park), and Sherburn.
Assume the 65 and 204 drivers can take a break in Durham.
The 12 and 49 would increase the PVR of Euro 6 buses dragging the 49 into it. It probably would make sense without the LEZ though.
Not sure I agree with deckers on the 6 though it really doesn't need them and decreasing the 25 for them is a bad idea.
(19 Oct 2021, 7:15 pm)Storx I think the interworking of the 6 / 12 is more about for the drivers taking breaks at the Metro Centre rather than getting the drivers onto the buses.65/204 change over at Murton (not sure if its Dalton Park), and Sherburn.
Assume the 65 and 204 drivers can take a break in Durham.
The 12 and 49 would increase the PVR of Euro 6 buses dragging the 49 into it. It probably would make sense without the LEZ though.
Not sure I agree with deckers on the 6 though it really doesn't need them and decreasing the 25 for them is a bad idea.
(19 Oct 2021, 7:15 pm)Storx Not sure I agree with deckers on the 6 though it really doesn't need them and decreasing the 25 for them is a bad idea.Saying that, it would only reduce the PVR by 1x vehicle so not worth it. Not forgetting when traffic is bad around the MetroCentre, the potential of lost mileage on both routes.
(19 Oct 2021, 7:15 pm)Storx Not sure I agree with deckers on the 6 though it really doesn't need them and decreasing the 25 for them is a bad idea.Saying that, it would only reduce the PVR by 1x vehicle so not worth it. Not forgetting when traffic is bad around the MetroCentre, the potential of lost mileage on both routes.
(20 Oct 2021, 5:13 am)cbma06 There are euro 5
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(20 Oct 2021, 5:13 am)cbma06 There are euro 5
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(20 Oct 2021, 9:58 am)ASX_Terranova Well thats annoying, was going to suggest buying new buses for the 20 then cascading the streetlites onto the 6, 12/12A & 28/28A.
(20 Oct 2021, 9:58 am)ASX_Terranova Well thats annoying, was going to suggest buying new buses for the 20 then cascading the streetlites onto the 6, 12/12A & 28/28A.
(20 Oct 2021, 9:58 am)ASX_Terranova Well thats annoying, was going to suggest buying new buses for the 20 then cascading the streetlites onto the 6, 12/12A & 28/28A.
(20 Oct 2021, 9:58 am)ASX_Terranova Well thats annoying, was going to suggest buying new buses for the 20 then cascading the streetlites onto the 6, 12/12A & 28/28A.
(20 Oct 2021, 11:16 am)deanmachine I was hoping the 20 could get the Angel Streetdecks if the 21 ends up getting electric deckers. Think they both have a PVR of 16.Angel StreetDecks (if bid is approved) will no doubt end up replacing B9TLs that are "overkill" on certain routes unless there's capacity demand for the PBs
(20 Oct 2021, 11:16 am)deanmachine I was hoping the 20 could get the Angel Streetdecks if the 21 ends up getting electric deckers. Think they both have a PVR of 16.Angel StreetDecks (if bid is approved) will no doubt end up replacing B9TLs that are "overkill" on certain routes unless there's capacity demand for the PBs
(20 Oct 2021, 5:41 pm)JP6004 And allow withdrawal of all the 08/58 reg citaros
(20 Oct 2021, 5:41 pm)JP6004 And allow withdrawal of all the 08/58 reg citaros
(20 Oct 2021, 11:48 pm)deanmachine That's more my thinking, instead of moving still good B9s off anything, displace some more single deckers for newer more fuel efficient vehicles.Exactly...and if the EV deckers are acquired, that would be the time to move some of the B9s from frontline service.
Upgrades - Country Ranger 8/78 - BrRLE MCV eVoRas
Leaving the 15 to the 26/50
Upgrade 20 - E200 MMC
Put Ex Prince Bishops to Replace the Older Versa's
Upgrade 56 with E400 MMC's
Put Ex 56's on Loop or 58.
Upgrade 60 with E200 MMC
Ex-60's on Sunderland District Blue & Violet
Retire Q3's.
Replace Q3's with Streetlites - Q3's go onto X6/62 & Spares
Replace Durham Diamond & Xlines X5/X15 & Cobalt And Coast in 2023 with selection of E400 MMC, StreetDecks & MCV
Ex Angel Streetdecks on Cobalt & Coast.
X21 new Scania E400 MMC
X9/X10 E400 MMC.
Crusader to get Ex-Angel (If Bid is successful)
Put Coaches on School/Rail Replacements.
(05 Dec 2021, 6:42 pm)Keeiajs Upgrades - Country Ranger 8/78 - E200's
Leaving the 15 to the 26/50
Upgrade 20 - Volvo B8RLE MCV eVoRas.
Put Ex Prince Bishops to Replace the Older Versa's
Upgrade 56 with E400 MMC's
Put Ex 56's on Loop or 58.
Upgrade 60 with E200 MMC
Ex-60's on Sunderland District Blue & Violet
Retire Q3's.
Replace Q3's with Streetlites
Replace Durham Diamond & Xlines X5/X15 & Crusader & Cobalt And Coast in 2023 with selection of E400 MMC, StreetDecks & MCV
Ex Angel Streetdecks on Cobalt & Coast.
X21 new Scania E400 MMC
X9/X10 E400 MMC.
Put Coaches on School/Rail Replacements.
(05 Dec 2021, 6:42 pm)Keeiajs Upgrades - Country Ranger 8/78 - E200's
Leaving the 15 to the 26/50
Upgrade 20 - Volvo B8RLE MCV eVoRas.
Put Ex Prince Bishops to Replace the Older Versa's
Upgrade 56 with E400 MMC's
Put Ex 56's on Loop or 58.
Upgrade 60 with E200 MMC
Ex-60's on Sunderland District Blue & Violet
Retire Q3's.
Replace Q3's with Streetlites
Replace Durham Diamond & Xlines X5/X15 & Crusader & Cobalt And Coast in 2023 with selection of E400 MMC, StreetDecks & MCV
Ex Angel Streetdecks on Cobalt & Coast.
X21 new Scania E400 MMC
X9/X10 E400 MMC.
Put Coaches on School/Rail Replacements.
(05 Dec 2021, 6:42 pm)Keeiajs Upgrade 20 - Volvo B8RLE MCV eVoRas.
*Would cost a fortune in fuel to run, and if GNE were out for a heavy duty decker, surely the B8RLE would be more suited to the 8/78 as above?
Upgrade 56 with E400 MMC's
* StreetDecks would be more than fine for the 56
Retire Q3's
* Nothing wrong with the Versas as such
Replace Durham Diamond & Xlines X5/X15 & Crusader & Cobalt And Coast in 2023 with selection of E400 MMC, StreetDecks & MCV
* X5/X15 and Cobalt & Coast already in pipeline subject to bids. Crusader not strong enough a route to get new stock and B9TLs are fine.
X21 new Scania E400 MMC
* Agree the X21 could do with a more solid vehicle type but B5TLs are ok for now (through gritted teeth) .
X9/X10 E400 MMC.
* Coaches will be more than fine once teething issues sorted out (if any).
(05 Dec 2021, 6:42 pm)Keeiajs Upgrade 20 - Volvo B8RLE MCV eVoRas.
*Would cost a fortune in fuel to run, and if GNE were out for a heavy duty decker, surely the B8RLE would be more suited to the 8/78 as above?
Upgrade 56 with E400 MMC's
* StreetDecks would be more than fine for the 56
Retire Q3's
* Nothing wrong with the Versas as such
Replace Durham Diamond & Xlines X5/X15 & Crusader & Cobalt And Coast in 2023 with selection of E400 MMC, StreetDecks & MCV
* X5/X15 and Cobalt & Coast already in pipeline subject to bids. Crusader not strong enough a route to get new stock and B9TLs are fine.
X21 new Scania E400 MMC
* Agree the X21 could do with a more solid vehicle type but B5TLs are ok for now (through gritted teeth) .
X9/X10 E400 MMC.
* Coaches will be more than fine once teething issues sorted out (if any).
Well we now know an answer if we would ever get any of these buses by this tweet
Looks like Go North West are getting 20 Go-Ahead London Volvo B5LH MCV Evoseti’s, any chance of some for the North East @Dan3942 @MartijnGNE
To which Martijn respond https://twitter.com/MartijnGNE/status/14...IwPM20R66g&s=19