Gosforth Single Lane Traffic
Gosforth Single Lane Traffic
(29 Aug 2020, 9:28 pm)Adrian You've disagreed by echoing my point really. The failing is people that are too ignorant or think they know better than to use them, not the system itself.
(29 Aug 2020, 9:28 pm)Adrian You've disagreed by echoing my point really. The failing is people that are too ignorant or think they know better than to use them, not the system itself.
(29 Aug 2020, 8:37 pm)Adrian There's two separate pots of money. There was a £2 billion fund for cycling and walking routes, then another £50 million fund for reopening high streets safely.
(29 Aug 2020, 8:49 pm)streetdeckfan You're probably right, although I wouldn't be surprised if there was funding for increasing the footpaths as well.
To be honest, there's not really much supermarkets can do, one way systems didn't work, they can't have staff standing around making sure everyone is keeping their distance, and at the end of the day it's going to be sticking around for a while so there's no use wrapping yourself up in cotton wool. Cases are going back up, but deaths aren't, even taking into account the lag. Plus, with reports now starting to come out that tests are 'too sensitive', can we even trust those figures?
To go off on a little tangent, we've been in the high single, low double digit number of deaths for over a month now. If we look three weeks ago, around 1000 people on average were testing positive. On the 19th March, around the same number of people tested positive, but three weeks later around 1000 people were dying a day. But those positive test figures are by no means the same, back then only 5000 people were being tested daily, but three weeks ago that was 150,000.
Personally, right now, I am more scared of getting in the car with my mother driving than I am of COVID. If the figures go up by a meaningful amount, I might change my stance, but right now, it doesn't worry me. As Boris said, just use your common sense. I socially distance anyway as people round here are absolute tramps!
Back somewhat on topic, as I've mentioned before we work with some of the councils to carry out research and the consultations they have are a load of crap. They're guided in such a way that the councils get the answer they want, regardless of what people actually answer. For some focus groups I've been doing for another client, just from looking at the discussion guide I can already tell what the conclusion of the report will be.
(29 Aug 2020, 8:37 pm)Adrian There's two separate pots of money. There was a £2 billion fund for cycling and walking routes, then another £50 million fund for reopening high streets safely.
(29 Aug 2020, 8:49 pm)streetdeckfan You're probably right, although I wouldn't be surprised if there was funding for increasing the footpaths as well.
To be honest, there's not really much supermarkets can do, one way systems didn't work, they can't have staff standing around making sure everyone is keeping their distance, and at the end of the day it's going to be sticking around for a while so there's no use wrapping yourself up in cotton wool. Cases are going back up, but deaths aren't, even taking into account the lag. Plus, with reports now starting to come out that tests are 'too sensitive', can we even trust those figures?
To go off on a little tangent, we've been in the high single, low double digit number of deaths for over a month now. If we look three weeks ago, around 1000 people on average were testing positive. On the 19th March, around the same number of people tested positive, but three weeks later around 1000 people were dying a day. But those positive test figures are by no means the same, back then only 5000 people were being tested daily, but three weeks ago that was 150,000.
Personally, right now, I am more scared of getting in the car with my mother driving than I am of COVID. If the figures go up by a meaningful amount, I might change my stance, but right now, it doesn't worry me. As Boris said, just use your common sense. I socially distance anyway as people round here are absolute tramps!
Back somewhat on topic, as I've mentioned before we work with some of the councils to carry out research and the consultations they have are a load of crap. They're guided in such a way that the councils get the answer they want, regardless of what people actually answer. For some focus groups I've been doing for another client, just from looking at the discussion guide I can already tell what the conclusion of the report will be.
(30 Aug 2020, 12:03 am)Storx Makes sense then wasn't aware of the £50m fund.
Ah it wasn't the one way systems etc I was talking about it was more the basics such as actually counting how many people are in the store, having an organised queueline for the tills rather than it being all over the place, staff actually bothered to wear face masks (no way does 90% of the staff in certain stores have hidden illnesses) and stuff like that. Things that rise exponentially are dangerous; 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16394. That's what can happen in 2 weeks if your not careful with what your doing - it's certainly still needed and we're already at the 1024 stage as it is. 4 days at an R rate of 2 and you've got 16k cases.
(30 Aug 2020, 12:03 am)Storx Makes sense then wasn't aware of the £50m fund.
Ah it wasn't the one way systems etc I was talking about it was more the basics such as actually counting how many people are in the store, having an organised queueline for the tills rather than it being all over the place, staff actually bothered to wear face masks (no way does 90% of the staff in certain stores have hidden illnesses) and stuff like that. Things that rise exponentially are dangerous; 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16394. That's what can happen in 2 weeks if your not careful with what your doing - it's certainly still needed and we're already at the 1024 stage as it is. 4 days at an R rate of 2 and you've got 16k cases.
STORX you mentioned John Dobson street in you post on page 1...... I'm assuming you mean the bus lane that Stagecoach praised to the hilt????? You moan about what NCC have done in Gosforth as its delaying buses but in the same breath bring up the Bus Lane on John Dobson street which has made keeping time easier???
These councils cant win with some people
(30 Aug 2020, 9:16 am)Rob44 STORX you mentioned John Dobson street in you post on page 1...... I'm assuming you mean the bus lane that Stagecoach praised to the hilt????? You moan about what NCC have done in Gosforth as its delaying buses but in the same breath bring up the Bus Lane on John Dobson street which has made keeping time easier???I wonder what sort of influence Nexus has on these decisions about road closures and the creation of bus lanes and the like within Tyne and Wear, bearing in mind it mission statement on its website says the below.
These councils cant win with some people
(30 Aug 2020, 9:16 am)Rob44 STORX you mentioned John Dobson street in you post on page 1...... I'm assuming you mean the bus lane that Stagecoach praised to the hilt????? You moan about what NCC have done in Gosforth as its delaying buses but in the same breath bring up the Bus Lane on John Dobson street which has made keeping time easier???I wonder what sort of influence Nexus has on these decisions about road closures and the creation of bus lanes and the like within Tyne and Wear, bearing in mind it mission statement on its website says the below.
These councils cant win with some people
(30 Aug 2020, 12:39 am)streetdeckfan The issue is the stores just aren't designed for organised queue lines, they end up blocking aisles. If they have a limit of 50 people in the store, but they all want to leave at exactly the same time, you're still going to have an issue. Which goes back to what I said further up about one way systems, if the stores are designed from the ground up for 'social distancing', then it's all great. But in stores like ALDI and LIDL where space is limited, literally half the store is inaccessible once more than 4 people are waiting!
My point about the numbers of cases wasn't necessarily about the number itself, but the fact you can't really 'trust' the statistics. Back then the exponential rise was, in my opinion anyway, just as much caused by the lack of awareness as the R rate itself. With the amount of tests they're carrying out now, spikes can be found early, whereas at the start it wasn't until you were literally at your death bed that you could get a test and find out if you have it. Now, you can literally get a test done in a matter of minutes. A couple weeks back, my mother and younger brother both had a temperature so went online and booked a test, within 20 minutes she was at the test site having the test, and by the next evening she had the results back (which both came back negative).
Plus, I'm still waiting for all those second peaks we're supposed to have had by now, there was those times everyone went to the beach, the 'protests', the opening of the borders, the end of the shielding program, the reopening of pubs.
Now, I'm not downplaying the fact it can rise exponentially, it's happened before, but the fact the deaths aren't increasing but the cases are suggests either COVID is becoming less deadly, or it was never /that/ deadly in the first place and a lot of people who had it weren't ill enough to even realise they had it. I suppose only time, and mass antibody testing will tell
(30 Aug 2020, 9:16 am)Rob44 STORX you mentioned John Dobson street in you post on page 1...... I'm assuming you mean the bus lane that Stagecoach praised to the hilt????? You moan about what NCC have done in Gosforth as its delaying buses but in the same breath bring up the Bus Lane on John Dobson street which has made keeping time easier???
These councils cant win with some people
(30 Aug 2020, 12:39 am)streetdeckfan The issue is the stores just aren't designed for organised queue lines, they end up blocking aisles. If they have a limit of 50 people in the store, but they all want to leave at exactly the same time, you're still going to have an issue. Which goes back to what I said further up about one way systems, if the stores are designed from the ground up for 'social distancing', then it's all great. But in stores like ALDI and LIDL where space is limited, literally half the store is inaccessible once more than 4 people are waiting!
My point about the numbers of cases wasn't necessarily about the number itself, but the fact you can't really 'trust' the statistics. Back then the exponential rise was, in my opinion anyway, just as much caused by the lack of awareness as the R rate itself. With the amount of tests they're carrying out now, spikes can be found early, whereas at the start it wasn't until you were literally at your death bed that you could get a test and find out if you have it. Now, you can literally get a test done in a matter of minutes. A couple weeks back, my mother and younger brother both had a temperature so went online and booked a test, within 20 minutes she was at the test site having the test, and by the next evening she had the results back (which both came back negative).
Plus, I'm still waiting for all those second peaks we're supposed to have had by now, there was those times everyone went to the beach, the 'protests', the opening of the borders, the end of the shielding program, the reopening of pubs.
Now, I'm not downplaying the fact it can rise exponentially, it's happened before, but the fact the deaths aren't increasing but the cases are suggests either COVID is becoming less deadly, or it was never /that/ deadly in the first place and a lot of people who had it weren't ill enough to even realise they had it. I suppose only time, and mass antibody testing will tell
(30 Aug 2020, 9:16 am)Rob44 STORX you mentioned John Dobson street in you post on page 1...... I'm assuming you mean the bus lane that Stagecoach praised to the hilt????? You moan about what NCC have done in Gosforth as its delaying buses but in the same breath bring up the Bus Lane on John Dobson street which has made keeping time easier???
These councils cant win with some people
Ah right. I agree it took longer than it should but dont get me start on the " bad signage " rubbish. If you went through there and then suggest you didn't know it was bus only you shouldn't be driving on the road!!
I used to drink in the weatherspoons at that junction and since the bus lane has be put there it looks to me that there are less jams and standstills as you put it. That included December time. So not sure what has changed recently to cause more disruption?
(30 Aug 2020, 10:59 am)Storx It was more the point there isn't any limit at all now in most shops, it's just a free for all especially in ASDA stores. Shops like Morrisons etc have more than enough space to do a single queue for the tills it's better than blocking the whole shop up with people queuing everywhere. Time will tell though I agree there.
(30 Aug 2020, 10:59 am)Storx It was more the point there isn't any limit at all now in most shops, it's just a free for all especially in ASDA stores. Shops like Morrisons etc have more than enough space to do a single queue for the tills it's better than blocking the whole shop up with people queuing everywhere. Time will tell though I agree there.
(30 Aug 2020, 11:09 am)Rob44 Ah right. I agree it took longer than it should but dont get me start on the " bad signage " rubbish. If you went through there and then suggest you didn't know it was bus only you shouldn't be driving on the road!!
I used to drink in the weatherspoons at that junction and since the bus lane has be put there it looks to me that there are less jams and standstills as you put it. That included December time. So not sure what has changed recently to cause more disruption?
Oh and can i ( from a personal point of view) just say the road works outside of civic centre/crows nest have made it quicker for buses in and out of Newcastle. Since the GNE have used JDS instead of blacket street my journeys into town are now quicker. Plus with the new system outside crows nest i think the bus is yet to stop at those light... just get stuck at the ones next to Percy pub/ladbrookes.. Another up for NCC in my view anyway!
(30 Aug 2020, 11:09 am)Rob44 Ah right. I agree it took longer than it should but dont get me start on the " bad signage " rubbish. If you went through there and then suggest you didn't know it was bus only you shouldn't be driving on the road!!
I used to drink in the weatherspoons at that junction and since the bus lane has be put there it looks to me that there are less jams and standstills as you put it. That included December time. So not sure what has changed recently to cause more disruption?
Oh and can i ( from a personal point of view) just say the road works outside of civic centre/crows nest have made it quicker for buses in and out of Newcastle. Since the GNE have used JDS instead of blacket street my journeys into town are now quicker. Plus with the new system outside crows nest i think the bus is yet to stop at those light... just get stuck at the ones next to Percy pub/ladbrookes.. Another up for NCC in my view anyway!
i thought it was coming off the a167m - you know the drivers using the city centre as a short cut rat race when the traffic was backed up from the jesmond turn off.onm the A167M As for no pre warning i beg to differ. i noticed it was a bus lane and turned right into the street where primark is and back around. if you did get to the edge of the bus lane you can still turn left into the next street up from primark ( ridley place i think?)and turn around and head back in the other direction. also a number of drivers have been fined more than once and they've got the cheek to try to claim all the fines back!
as for the traffic it was like that on match days before they changed the road set up. I parked in the NCP once and it took me over an hour to get out.
I think the council could look at the traffic light and try to time them better though
