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Andreos1



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05 Apr 2016, 7:41 pm #137
(05 Apr 2016, 7:36 pm)Adrian The problem with internal branding, is exactly what do you put on it? What used to be fitted, was on the most part just a load of waffle, in all honesty. In my opinion it served no real purpose, and in some cases is as much as useless. What benefit is it on a Gemini 2 for example? The roof lining that it's applied to is almost horizontal, so you're almost having to put your neck out to read it.

I am a fan of what Arriva have done with their Sapphire and Frequenta services. Not in terms of the waffle, but more so the images of landmarks that they've applied on interior walls. 

I do think that if internal branding is seen as a must have, it should simply be limited to a brand logo with associated artwork, and the route map.

I was just about to mention Sapphire.
I think it is smart and informative, without being tacky nor over the top.
It also opens up the company by giving out the a handful of contact methods.

Eldest Constantopolous used to like getting the 71 and reading the lyrics - if we got in to the right seat...

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
05 Apr 2016, 7:41 pm #137

(05 Apr 2016, 7:36 pm)Adrian The problem with internal branding, is exactly what do you put on it? What used to be fitted, was on the most part just a load of waffle, in all honesty. In my opinion it served no real purpose, and in some cases is as much as useless. What benefit is it on a Gemini 2 for example? The roof lining that it's applied to is almost horizontal, so you're almost having to put your neck out to read it.

I am a fan of what Arriva have done with their Sapphire and Frequenta services. Not in terms of the waffle, but more so the images of landmarks that they've applied on interior walls. 

I do think that if internal branding is seen as a must have, it should simply be limited to a brand logo with associated artwork, and the route map.

I was just about to mention Sapphire.
I think it is smart and informative, without being tacky nor over the top.
It also opens up the company by giving out the a handful of contact methods.

Eldest Constantopolous used to like getting the 71 and reading the lyrics - if we got in to the right seat...


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

 
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East Midlands Bus Operations - by Adam - 18 Mar 2013, 10:23 pm
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RE: Trent Barton - by Andreos1 - 13 Aug 2013, 4:26 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 12 May 2014, 6:43 am
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Dan - 06 Jun 2014, 5:38 am
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Dan - 06 Jun 2014, 2:20 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Kuyoyo - 12 Jun 2014, 2:59 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by R852 PRG - 12 Jun 2014, 6:09 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Kuyoyo - 13 Jun 2014, 3:22 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Dan - 13 Jun 2014, 6:37 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 19 Jun 2014, 5:59 am
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Kuyoyo - 10 Jul 2014, 8:34 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Adam - 01 Aug 2014, 12:42 am
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by S813 FVK - 06 Aug 2014, 9:38 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 02 Sep 2014, 2:37 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 02 Sep 2014, 7:43 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 17 Sep 2014, 4:28 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Kuyoyo - 12 Nov 2014, 10:13 am
East Midlands Bus Operations - by R852 PRG - 23 Nov 2014, 4:55 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 24 Nov 2014, 1:04 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 28 Dec 2014, 10:29 am
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by S813 FVK - 13 Jan 2015, 5:56 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by S813 FVK - 14 Jan 2015, 4:05 pm
East Midlands Bus Operations - by LeeCalder - 16 Mar 2015, 8:24 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Dan - 16 Mar 2015, 8:29 pm
East Midlands Bus Operations - by R852 PRG - 16 Mar 2015, 8:26 pm
East Midlands Bus Operations - by LeeCalder - 16 Mar 2015, 8:28 pm
East Midlands Bus Operations - by LeeCalder - 16 Mar 2015, 8:29 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Michael - 16 Mar 2015, 8:31 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by tyresmoke - 16 Mar 2015, 8:37 pm
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 17 Mar 2015, 12:08 pm
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Dan - 26 Mar 2015, 6:53 am
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by S813 FVK - 05 Jun 2015, 6:54 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by S813 FVK - 05 Sep 2015, 7:31 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Kuyoyo - 16 Jun 2015, 4:49 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by S813 FVK - 18 Jun 2015, 6:41 am
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by S813 FVK - 27 Jul 2015, 5:44 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Michael - 27 Jul 2015, 5:45 pm
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by BusLoverMum - 05 Sep 2015, 10:48 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Kuyoyo - 10 Sep 2015, 10:09 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by S813 FVK - 16 Sep 2015, 6:47 pm
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Michael - 30 Sep 2015, 9:00 pm
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by S813 FVK - 14 Oct 2015, 5:38 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by S813 FVK - 17 Oct 2015, 4:40 pm
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 06 Nov 2015, 11:37 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Adrian - 06 Nov 2015, 10:42 pm
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 11 Nov 2015, 9:22 pm
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by S813 FVK - 25 Nov 2015, 4:58 pm
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Kuyoyo - 28 Dec 2015, 7:22 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by S813 FVK - 03 Jan 2016, 9:41 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Adrian - 03 Jan 2016, 11:25 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Dan - 04 Jan 2016, 5:51 am
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 04 Jan 2016, 8:05 pm
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Dan - 05 Apr 2016, 7:14 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Michael - 05 Apr 2016, 7:23 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Adrian - 05 Apr 2016, 7:36 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 05 Apr 2016, 7:41 pm
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 05 Apr 2016, 7:49 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Dan - 05 Apr 2016, 7:28 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Michael - 05 Apr 2016, 7:48 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Dan - 05 Apr 2016, 7:49 pm
RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Michael - 06 Apr 2016, 9:34 am
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by South Tyne Lad - 10 Jun 2016, 4:46 pm
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Andreos1 - 28 Oct 2016, 2:26 pm
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East Midlands Bus Operations - by Stephen James Peter Johns - 13 Feb 2017, 11:38 am
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RE: East Midlands Bus Operations - by Kuyoyo - 17 Sep 2017, 7:53 pm
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