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Tom



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21 Mar 2016, 9:01 pm #4,021
(21 Mar 2016, 8:49 pm)South Tyne Lad Ive got my outing planned for Hexham and the new Solos, It has been rescheduled for Saturday due to meeting with my mates on Thursday night.

My outing is as follows

1135 74 Eldon Square - Hexham 1301 ( Hoping the driver will be early en route to get a photo on the route )

Photograph buses in Hexham Bus Station 1300 - 1510

1510 AD122 Hexham - Haltwhistle 1606

1620 681 Haltwhistle - Alston 1708

Get a photo of the ( Hopefully ) Solo in Alston

1715 X81 Alston - Hexham 1805

1822 685/85 Hexham - Eldon Square 1918

Then head home.

Hoping I have good drivers so if there early they will let me get a photo en route.

I'm lucking forward to it

I will be out on Thursday just not too far, Maybe Ashington or Metro Replacements

Anyone who wants to tag along is welcome, Just look for a 13 year old boy taking photos  Big Grin

Sounds good, some nice scenic rides there especially the 681/X81 and AD122 - but just to let you know the AD122 is very expensive (day ticket is £12!!) so god knows how much a single will be.
Tom
21 Mar 2016, 9:01 pm #4,021

(21 Mar 2016, 8:49 pm)South Tyne Lad Ive got my outing planned for Hexham and the new Solos, It has been rescheduled for Saturday due to meeting with my mates on Thursday night.

My outing is as follows

1135 74 Eldon Square - Hexham 1301 ( Hoping the driver will be early en route to get a photo on the route )

Photograph buses in Hexham Bus Station 1300 - 1510

1510 AD122 Hexham - Haltwhistle 1606

1620 681 Haltwhistle - Alston 1708

Get a photo of the ( Hopefully ) Solo in Alston

1715 X81 Alston - Hexham 1805

1822 685/85 Hexham - Eldon Square 1918

Then head home.

Hoping I have good drivers so if there early they will let me get a photo en route.

I'm lucking forward to it

I will be out on Thursday just not too far, Maybe Ashington or Metro Replacements

Anyone who wants to tag along is welcome, Just look for a 13 year old boy taking photos  Big Grin

Sounds good, some nice scenic rides there especially the 681/X81 and AD122 - but just to let you know the AD122 is very expensive (day ticket is £12!!) so god knows how much a single will be.

21 Mar 2016, 9:14 pm #4,022
(21 Mar 2016, 9:00 pm)Jimmi I will probably spot you as I am looking to do the following on Saturday (subject to change):

0805 7 Aycliffe - Durham (Arrive 0845)
0850 15 Consett (Arrive 0930)
0945 689 Hexham (Arrive 1039)
1110 AD122 Haltwhistle (Arrive 1208)
1249 685 Hexham (1322)
1422 10 Corbridge Hill Street (1432)
1510 687 Hexham Bus Station (1527)
1530 882 Hadrian Hotel (1544)
1552 AD122 Hexham Rail Station (1602)
1607 74 Newcastle (1729)
Then whatever home.

You'll probably see me in Hexham Bus Station.

(21 Mar 2016, 9:01 pm)Tom Sounds good, some nice scenic rides there especially the 681/X81 and AD122 - but just to let you know the AD122 is very expensive (day ticket is £12!!) so god knows how much a single will be.

Never tried the 681/X81 or the AD122 yet. Never knew it was that expensive!
Edited 21 Mar 2016, 9:15 pm by South Tyne Lad.

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South Tyne Lad
21 Mar 2016, 9:14 pm #4,022

(21 Mar 2016, 9:00 pm)Jimmi I will probably spot you as I am looking to do the following on Saturday (subject to change):

0805 7 Aycliffe - Durham (Arrive 0845)
0850 15 Consett (Arrive 0930)
0945 689 Hexham (Arrive 1039)
1110 AD122 Haltwhistle (Arrive 1208)
1249 685 Hexham (1322)
1422 10 Corbridge Hill Street (1432)
1510 687 Hexham Bus Station (1527)
1530 882 Hadrian Hotel (1544)
1552 AD122 Hexham Rail Station (1602)
1607 74 Newcastle (1729)
Then whatever home.

You'll probably see me in Hexham Bus Station.

(21 Mar 2016, 9:01 pm)Tom Sounds good, some nice scenic rides there especially the 681/X81 and AD122 - but just to let you know the AD122 is very expensive (day ticket is £12!!) so god knows how much a single will be.

Never tried the 681/X81 or the AD122 yet. Never knew it was that expensive!


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Tom



6,138
21 Mar 2016, 9:32 pm #4,023
Might be worth going on the GNE live chat or Facebook to check the fare - to be fair it's pricey but a brilliant ride. Have a feeling it might be above £10 though for a single.
Tom
21 Mar 2016, 9:32 pm #4,023

Might be worth going on the GNE live chat or Facebook to check the fare - to be fair it's pricey but a brilliant ride. Have a feeling it might be above £10 though for a single.

Malarkey



6,064
21 Mar 2016, 9:38 pm #4,024
(21 Mar 2016, 9:14 pm)South Tyne Lad You'll probably see me in Hexham Bus Station. Never tried the 681/X81 or the AD122 yet. Never knew it was that expensive!

(21 Mar 2016, 9:32 pm)Tom Might be worth going on the GNE live chat or Facebook to check the fare - to be fair it's pricey but a brilliant ride. Have a feeling it might be above £10 though for a single.

http://www.simplygo.com/all-services/ad122 - All fare information for the AD122, Indeed it is expensive.
Malarkey
21 Mar 2016, 9:38 pm #4,024

(21 Mar 2016, 9:14 pm)South Tyne Lad You'll probably see me in Hexham Bus Station. Never tried the 681/X81 or the AD122 yet. Never knew it was that expensive!

(21 Mar 2016, 9:32 pm)Tom Might be worth going on the GNE live chat or Facebook to check the fare - to be fair it's pricey but a brilliant ride. Have a feeling it might be above £10 though for a single.

http://www.simplygo.com/all-services/ad122 - All fare information for the AD122, Indeed it is expensive.

LeeCalder



1,928
22 Mar 2016, 11:05 pm #4,025
Tomorrow will be the first chance that I have really had to take advantage of my staff pass, so my plan is as follows...

0717 #21 Barley Mow to Newcastle Eldon Square operated by Go North East (Arrive 0753)
0800 #X85 Newcastle Eldon Square to Hexham Bus Station operated by Go North East (Arrive 0847)
1002 #X84 Hexham Bus Station to Newcastle Gallowgate operated by Go North East (Arrive 1100)
1106 #Metro St James to Tynemouth (Arrive 1131)
1148 #900 Tynemouth to Whitley Bay operated by Arriva North East (Arrive 1157)
1301 #900 Whitley Bay to Tynemouth operated by Arriva North East (Arrive 1316)
1326 #Metro Tynemouth to North Shields (Arrive 1329)
1400 #Ferry North Shields to South Shields (Arrive 1407)
1412 #20 South Shield to Park Lane Interchange operated by Go North East (Arrive 1443)
1556 #8 Park Lane Interchange to Chester-le-Street operated by Go North East (Arrive 1655)

I have no set plan after my journey on the 8, however, I'm guessing my plan will go out the window in Newcastle due to the roadworks in Low Fell...
LeeCalder
22 Mar 2016, 11:05 pm #4,025

Tomorrow will be the first chance that I have really had to take advantage of my staff pass, so my plan is as follows...

0717 #21 Barley Mow to Newcastle Eldon Square operated by Go North East (Arrive 0753)
0800 #X85 Newcastle Eldon Square to Hexham Bus Station operated by Go North East (Arrive 0847)
1002 #X84 Hexham Bus Station to Newcastle Gallowgate operated by Go North East (Arrive 1100)
1106 #Metro St James to Tynemouth (Arrive 1131)
1148 #900 Tynemouth to Whitley Bay operated by Arriva North East (Arrive 1157)
1301 #900 Whitley Bay to Tynemouth operated by Arriva North East (Arrive 1316)
1326 #Metro Tynemouth to North Shields (Arrive 1329)
1400 #Ferry North Shields to South Shields (Arrive 1407)
1412 #20 South Shield to Park Lane Interchange operated by Go North East (Arrive 1443)
1556 #8 Park Lane Interchange to Chester-le-Street operated by Go North East (Arrive 1655)

I have no set plan after my journey on the 8, however, I'm guessing my plan will go out the window in Newcastle due to the roadworks in Low Fell...

Jimmi



10,977
22 Mar 2016, 11:17 pm #4,026
(22 Mar 2016, 11:05 pm)LeeCalder Tomorrow will be the first chance that I have really had to take advantage of my staff pass, so my plan is as follows...

0717 #21 Barley Mow to Newcastle Eldon Square operated by Go North East (Arrive 0753)
0800 #X85 Newcastle Eldon Square to Hexham Bus Station operated by Go North East (Arrive 0847)
1002 #X84 Hexham Bus Station to Newcastle Gallowgate operated by Go North East (Arrive 1100)
1106 #Metro St James to Tynemouth (Arrive 1131)
1148 #900 Tynemouth to Whitley Bay operated by Arriva North East (Arrive 1157)
1301 #900 Whitley Bay to Tynemouth operated by Arriva North East (Arrive 1316)
1326 #Metro Tynemouth to North Shields (Arrive 1329)
1400 #Ferry North Shields to South Shields (Arrive 1407)
1412 #20 South Shield to Park Lane Interchange operated by Go North East (Arrive 1443)
1556 #8 Park Lane Interchange to Chester-le-Street operated by Go North East (Arrive 1655)

I have no set plan after my journey on the 8, however, I'm guessing my plan will go out the window in Newcastle due to the roadworks in Low Fell...

Not sure what traffic and timekeeping on the 21 is like for that time of the morning but with only a 7 minute connection between the 21 and X85 I can see where things may go wrong there.

If I stick to my plan I will be leaving Whitley Bay around 10 minutes before you arrive, where I am then heading up to North Shields on the 17.
Edited 22 Mar 2016, 11:18 pm by Jimmi.
Jimmi
22 Mar 2016, 11:17 pm #4,026

(22 Mar 2016, 11:05 pm)LeeCalder Tomorrow will be the first chance that I have really had to take advantage of my staff pass, so my plan is as follows...

0717 #21 Barley Mow to Newcastle Eldon Square operated by Go North East (Arrive 0753)
0800 #X85 Newcastle Eldon Square to Hexham Bus Station operated by Go North East (Arrive 0847)
1002 #X84 Hexham Bus Station to Newcastle Gallowgate operated by Go North East (Arrive 1100)
1106 #Metro St James to Tynemouth (Arrive 1131)
1148 #900 Tynemouth to Whitley Bay operated by Arriva North East (Arrive 1157)
1301 #900 Whitley Bay to Tynemouth operated by Arriva North East (Arrive 1316)
1326 #Metro Tynemouth to North Shields (Arrive 1329)
1400 #Ferry North Shields to South Shields (Arrive 1407)
1412 #20 South Shield to Park Lane Interchange operated by Go North East (Arrive 1443)
1556 #8 Park Lane Interchange to Chester-le-Street operated by Go North East (Arrive 1655)

I have no set plan after my journey on the 8, however, I'm guessing my plan will go out the window in Newcastle due to the roadworks in Low Fell...

Not sure what traffic and timekeeping on the 21 is like for that time of the morning but with only a 7 minute connection between the 21 and X85 I can see where things may go wrong there.

If I stick to my plan I will be leaving Whitley Bay around 10 minutes before you arrive, where I am then heading up to North Shields on the 17.

LeeCalder



1,928
22 Mar 2016, 11:19 pm #4,027
(22 Mar 2016, 11:17 pm)Jimmi Not sure what traffic and timekeeping on the 21 is like for that time of the morning but with only a 7 minute connection between the 21 and X85 I can see where things may go wrong there.

If I stick to my plan I will be leaving Whitley Bay around 10 minutes before you arrive, where I am then heading up to North Shields on the 17.

It should be fine, not a problem if I miss it like, I'll just head elsewhere.
LeeCalder
22 Mar 2016, 11:19 pm #4,027

(22 Mar 2016, 11:17 pm)Jimmi Not sure what traffic and timekeeping on the 21 is like for that time of the morning but with only a 7 minute connection between the 21 and X85 I can see where things may go wrong there.

If I stick to my plan I will be leaving Whitley Bay around 10 minutes before you arrive, where I am then heading up to North Shields on the 17.

It should be fine, not a problem if I miss it like, I'll just head elsewhere.

Ambassador



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23 Mar 2016, 12:41 am #4,028
(22 Mar 2016, 11:19 pm)LeeCalder It should be fine, not a problem if I miss it like, I'll just head elsewhere.

The 21 is fine that time of morning, it's after 8 when reliability drops and traffic has been relaxed this week. Touch wood it's the on,y time the 21 is ever actually to schedule 

I get the 7.11 or 7.17 ex Birtley and I'm in town around 7.45 normally, worst case 8.00 but that's normally due to the Tyne Bridge being blocked from an accident. The 7.17 normally catches up with a fully laden 7.11 in low fell.

Sometimes quicker hopping off on Blackett st and running through to ES
Edited 23 Mar 2016, 12:42 am by Ambassador.

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
23 Mar 2016, 12:41 am #4,028

(22 Mar 2016, 11:19 pm)LeeCalder It should be fine, not a problem if I miss it like, I'll just head elsewhere.

The 21 is fine that time of morning, it's after 8 when reliability drops and traffic has been relaxed this week. Touch wood it's the on,y time the 21 is ever actually to schedule 

I get the 7.11 or 7.17 ex Birtley and I'm in town around 7.45 normally, worst case 8.00 but that's normally due to the Tyne Bridge being blocked from an accident. The 7.17 normally catches up with a fully laden 7.11 in low fell.

Sometimes quicker hopping off on Blackett st and running through to ES


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

James101



652
23 Mar 2016, 12:58 am #4,029
Thank you to those who offered suggestions for a potential trip to the North East I was going to do today. Unfortunately due to plans my trip was cancelled though I was still free today so decided not to waste an opportunity to get out and about, just a little more local. Local to me anyway. Hopefully this review will be a little more interesting as I imagine the subject, trentbarton, is a little more interesting than First Potteries. 

I started my day by heading to Derby, a key hub for trentbarton. I can't apologise for my spelling of the brand name here; the lower case, compound version of their name is now their official title found on all of their branding and publications - I like it though. 

259 - Y259 DRC Optare Excel Route D1: Derby Meteor Centre - Derby City Centre
My first bus of the day was not strictly a trentbarton bus, but a Notts & Derby one. Notts & Derby are a sister subsidiary to trentbarton within the Wellglade group and they can be perceived as the low-cost operation of the group. They specialise in contractual services including for large companies such as JCB and Rolls Royce with a few commercial services; though many have holes in the timetable where vehicles drop away to operate school contracts etc. One of their services provides the park & ride for Derby's Meteor Centre, a retail park not far from the city centre. 259 wears an unusual livery related to Derby College shown here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ipswichbus...542857395/

It's easy to see where they got their inspiration...
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So, looking like a gay pride barcode, 259 heads non-stop into the city. For an older vehicle it moved quickly and was relatively rattle free. This bus has a harder life when it was new working the 199 Skyline service connecting the Peak District to Manchester Airport so short circuits of Derby are no trouble for this veteran. I spend the short journey appreciating the innovative design features such as the domed ceiling with LED lighting and curved grab poles to make a more open environment. These must have been a later input as I believe the ones Go North East had didn't have these features. The park and ride stop in Derby is on the very fringe of the city centre on Derwent Street. Presumably this is to keep running time down, but it's not the most obvious or welcoming location for non-bus users who are presumably the regular passengers on a park & ride. 

 82 - YX65 BRC Volvo B11R Plaxton Elite red arrow: Derby Bus Station - Nottingham City Centre
As a bus enthusiast I was naturally drawn to the red arrow stand. I would say if you asked any passenger there which vehicle they wish was going to operate their service, it would be one of these. These coaches demand attention, they dominate the scene at the stands and even within the station, their presence is known. A huge 'red arrow' banner directs passengers to the stand below:
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This podium is a great idea from trentbarton. It is in fact staffed during the day, I had confused the lady serving with my ticket request so she'd gone for help while I took the opportunity for a photo. The idea here is the station based steward can 'pre-board' passengers, issuing tickets and checking passes, to ensure the coach is filled and ready for departure as soon as possible. 

Although it sounds odd, these coaches seem bugger from the inside. In case I haven't got my point across, they're huge. The interior is no off-the-peg job. Imagine the scene as Wellglade are on the phone with Plaxton. "Red. Everything has to be red. And Leather. Red leather." Last year I caught a National Express example of an Elite; the red arrow puts that one to shame. It's not only the comfortable seats with flexible headrests with 3-point seat belts but the huge windows and soundproofing contribute to an excellent ride. The journey itself is very enjoyable, we connect to the A52 right away and the driver cranks up the speed. The coach is driven with a sense of professional urgency, weaving around traffic rather than being incumbent in the slow-lane. As we enter Nottingham and the road becomes more urban bus lanes allow the red arrow to sail past cars. I'm obviously bias but if I was genuinely commuting between the two cities every day it could not think why anybody would choose their car over this. I like to think I have a nice car and this is still potentially a nicer place to sit!  

310 - YJ07 VSE Optare Tempo Rushcliffe Mainline: Nottingham City Centre - Radcliffe-on-Trent
Another service, another excellent branding exercise by trentbarton. Rushcliffe Mainline & Rushcliffe Villager. There's no tenuous link or unnecessary cheesiness to this brand (I'm looking at you, Fast Cats, and Director's Cut, Arriva!). You don't have to know the area to guess that both routes go to Rushcliffe and one's a faster route, one goes via the villages along the way. Boom. Done. Next. Branding done well. It's worth noting how trentbarton don't pair their brands with a number also. The brand is the name of the route, they simply don't have a number. And why should it? It would only confuse matters. On the subject of branding here's an image of the same vehicle when it was allocated to the 'black cat':

https://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhalibut/2484185059/

Hardly the same as a yellow MPD in Sunderland is it?

I really like this version of the Optare Tempo. It's boxy design stands out and I imagine makes a great canvas for branding. The windows are much taller than many other models and the thin pillars between them add to the airiness of the interior. Even better is the area at the back where the top escape hatch doubles as a skylight and seats are mounted side-on which increases floorspace. It's a shame this concept didn't catch on in as windows seem to be getting smaller, particularly with Wrightbus. The ride is a bit squeaky which is fair enough on a bus this age, but nonetheless enjoyable place to be. 

680 - FJ55 ABF Scania L95UB Wright Solar Rushcliffe Mainline: Radcliffe-on-Trent - Nottingham City Centre
Non-branded spares are essential for an operation such as trentbarton, or Go North East for that matter. There's a notable difference in how the two companies present their spares. My opinion is Go North East's corporate effort is lazy. The allover red makes the vehicle look like a constant 'work-in-progress'; a white relief would improve the livery no-end. If it's planned for that vehicle to be spare for many years it would be worthwhile to livery it properly. trentbarton however, have again executed this well. Rather than a fleet livery, the spares are used to advertise items such as day tickets, which 680 does. It's still clearly identifiable as a trentbarton vehicle due to the house style of branding and also as a Rushcliffe Mainline by not only the destination screen but a large card placed in a frame visible through the windscreen. 

What struck me first about this bus was the driver. She was stunning! A very pretty young lady, no older than me (23) and distinctly 'girly'. Lovely make-up, hair and appropriate jewellery. She was very petite and dwarfed by the large steering column and seat of the Scania. I once read online trentbarton dislike hiring from other bus companies as existing drivers have often been worn down an overworked and therefore lost their passion for the job. This lady epitomised efforts to change the image of the grumpy old bus driver and rock on girl for not being intimidated my a male dominated industry and well done trentbarton for supporting her. To make this whole passage sound a lot less creepy I best point out I'm gay and didn't spent the journey leering over the poor soul. I'm certain trentbarton tend to keep their drivers on dedicated routes though, so you know where to find her on your trips to trentbarton land, boys!
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I noticed the bus carried timetables for the service it was on despite being a spare. It's unlikely that the depot change these every day so maybe there's a system of even allocating the spares to a route for when branding vehicles are in the depot. I also noticed none of the buses I'd been on so far had an assault screen, which was nice. It's nice to know passengers are trusted enough not to attack their driver. On the way back into Nottingham a City Transport Enviro 400 went the other way featuring a full rear advert for Batman V Superman. It was on route 1 to Gotham. It was too damn far away to photograph before I realised!

 73 FJ10 OXN Scania Irizar I4 Skylink Express: Nottingham City Centre - East Midlands Airport
Skylink Express is trentbarton's newest venture, providing a fast link to EMA form Nottingham using coaches freed up from the red arrow upgrade. Despite being a new and uncertain venture, they've gone all-out with the branding and there's no hint of red inside or out. The service departs from Broadmarsh bus station which is a bit of a mess. Partially reminiscent of old Eldon Square there's buses squashed everywhere and passengers having to cross the carraigeways to reach their stops. To make matters worse it appears the original layover area has been converted to a charging area for the fleet of electric Optare Solos used in the city. An alternative layover area has been made by sectioning off a lane of traffic outside the station using constriction barriers; though I get the feeling this is a permanent 'solution'. The clear issue here is with buses piled up in single file, if the one first in line has a long layover it will need to leave the bay to let the bus behind out. I'd put this behind Durham in the bad bus station awards. 

This coach highlights the level of upgrade the red arrow has recently received. This previous stock was looking well worn after 5 years of service, though the lightweight seating and e-leather wouldn't have helped. At first I chose to sit around the wheelchair bay which is in the centre of the vehicle due to the aprox. 7ft leg room in this area. The photo below shows the layout:
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Two things popped into my mind looking at this area. Firstly, with the slippy factor of these seats there's a real risk of a sharp right turn sending a sleeping commuter into that deep gap! Secondly I remembered both terminal bus stations used by red arrow are a bay set-up whereby only the front door meets the Kerb. what would be the reality of a wheelchair user wishing to board? My musing were interrupted by the sheer concentration needed to remain on the seat! I elected to move to the very back to be secured in by the wall. Much more comfortable. Mechanically the bus sound tired too, seeming slow at  and struggling to keep up with traffic on the open roads. This Irizar bodywork isn't very popular in the UK and it's easy to assume why. The lower cabin height and seemingly lightweight structure seems much more suited to their home country of Spain where coach use on stagecarraige work is much more common. After alighting I notice this on the side boot lid, never missing a trick trentbarton!
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It's odd suddenly being at an airport terminal with no intention of boarding a plane. Even more so when I step outside and spot a trio of North-East bus enthusiasts! They get bloody everywhere. On that note, what's the correct term for a group of enthusiasts? Pack? Gaggle? I like the term used for a group of Pugs - grumble. "Oh flip, there's a grumble of enthusiasts at the corner." I think it works. 

Another branded spare pulled up during my next wait. This one simply was a big high five to their team. It's effective PR and must help morale to be branded as superheros, I love it!
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911 BX64 WJK Mercedes Citaro Skylink Derby: East Midlands Airport - Derby Bus Station
Oh how I wish Go North East carried on their commitment to the Citaro on to this next generation. The styling is one of the best out there and the Skylink livery really sets it off. The Skylink route is long and tightly timed with lots of open roads. No worries for the Citaro which is remarkably fast. All trentbarton drivers I've met today have been pleasant, but this driver is the winner - he spent most of the route singing! Although he does really work for sister company Kinchbus, the Skylink has cleverly been designed to fit in with trentbarton brands in Derby. 

330 YJ12 GWL Optare Tempo SR i4: Derby Bus Station - Spondon
I hate to say it but I think Optare were trying too hard with the Tempo SR. The styling is certainly striking but was probably a bit too 'out-there' to really catch on. I can't imagine it really offers any fuel/capacity/technical advantages over the Versa. From first impressions the promise so much, the interior looks smart even if the 'i4' brand is a bit obscure. The build quality and ride really lets the bus down, it rattled more than the 15 year old Excel from the start of the day. It's compounded by the heating which is insanely intense! My eyes were soon itching from the dry air. A quick check on Google Maps finds the first opportunity to change services to get back to Derby. 

809 YJ11 ENO Optare Versa Spondon Flyer: Spondon - Derby Bus Station
I wasn't going to bother with the Spondon Flyer as the Versas seemed a tad uninteresting. I'm really glad I sampled one; they are an exercise in branding. First up is the bus stop info 
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First up, rest of the world take note of a great, clear, bus timetable. Not difficult. Second, look at the attention to detail i4 has 'travel time', the flyer has 'flight time', ace! The flight theme goes full throttle on board. The service logo which is reminiscent of the classic BOAC logo is embroided into the seat headrests. The coving adverts are stylised as flight safety information cards, boarding passes and even luggage labels. I almost missed this next one though:
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Look at that! almost unnoticeable behind the coving is some aeroplane-esque seat numbers! Absolutely useless in reality but absolutely fantastic at the same time. It' attention to detail like that which sets trentbarton apart. Many operators have taken inspiration from their branding, few will commit to this level. The Versa itself is sounding tired from this fairly demanding city route but who care when your flying! Just to finish the experience, here's a photo of the waiting area at Derby bus station:
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Another example of pure commitment to selling their service as a brand passengers immerse themselves in and become affectionate for. It's easy to see how this works, but it really does require a different approach to selling bus travel. 

259 - Y259 DRC Optare Excel Route D1: Derby City Centre - Derby Meteor Centre
The bus and driver I started my day with also bring my journeys to a close. There's not much more to say here as I've already been an board already but it is nice to have another ride on one of these rare vehicles. With nothing much on my mind now I stare out the window to have a look at Derby. We pass a factory advertising 'Make your own yoghurt'. The more I repeat that in my head the creepier it sounds, I'm not even sure why. Who thought that would be a good thing to put on a sign? Sufficiently grossed out by Derby I head back to the car; a rather enjoyable and 'really good' adventure!
James101
23 Mar 2016, 12:58 am #4,029

Thank you to those who offered suggestions for a potential trip to the North East I was going to do today. Unfortunately due to plans my trip was cancelled though I was still free today so decided not to waste an opportunity to get out and about, just a little more local. Local to me anyway. Hopefully this review will be a little more interesting as I imagine the subject, trentbarton, is a little more interesting than First Potteries. 

I started my day by heading to Derby, a key hub for trentbarton. I can't apologise for my spelling of the brand name here; the lower case, compound version of their name is now their official title found on all of their branding and publications - I like it though. 

259 - Y259 DRC Optare Excel Route D1: Derby Meteor Centre - Derby City Centre
My first bus of the day was not strictly a trentbarton bus, but a Notts & Derby one. Notts & Derby are a sister subsidiary to trentbarton within the Wellglade group and they can be perceived as the low-cost operation of the group. They specialise in contractual services including for large companies such as JCB and Rolls Royce with a few commercial services; though many have holes in the timetable where vehicles drop away to operate school contracts etc. One of their services provides the park & ride for Derby's Meteor Centre, a retail park not far from the city centre. 259 wears an unusual livery related to Derby College shown here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ipswichbus...542857395/

It's easy to see where they got their inspiration...

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So, looking like a gay pride barcode, 259 heads non-stop into the city. For an older vehicle it moved quickly and was relatively rattle free. This bus has a harder life when it was new working the 199 Skyline service connecting the Peak District to Manchester Airport so short circuits of Derby are no trouble for this veteran. I spend the short journey appreciating the innovative design features such as the domed ceiling with LED lighting and curved grab poles to make a more open environment. These must have been a later input as I believe the ones Go North East had didn't have these features. The park and ride stop in Derby is on the very fringe of the city centre on Derwent Street. Presumably this is to keep running time down, but it's not the most obvious or welcoming location for non-bus users who are presumably the regular passengers on a park & ride. 

 82 - YX65 BRC Volvo B11R Plaxton Elite red arrow: Derby Bus Station - Nottingham City Centre
As a bus enthusiast I was naturally drawn to the red arrow stand. I would say if you asked any passenger there which vehicle they wish was going to operate their service, it would be one of these. These coaches demand attention, they dominate the scene at the stands and even within the station, their presence is known. A huge 'red arrow' banner directs passengers to the stand below:
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This podium is a great idea from trentbarton. It is in fact staffed during the day, I had confused the lady serving with my ticket request so she'd gone for help while I took the opportunity for a photo. The idea here is the station based steward can 'pre-board' passengers, issuing tickets and checking passes, to ensure the coach is filled and ready for departure as soon as possible. 

Although it sounds odd, these coaches seem bugger from the inside. In case I haven't got my point across, they're huge. The interior is no off-the-peg job. Imagine the scene as Wellglade are on the phone with Plaxton. "Red. Everything has to be red. And Leather. Red leather." Last year I caught a National Express example of an Elite; the red arrow puts that one to shame. It's not only the comfortable seats with flexible headrests with 3-point seat belts but the huge windows and soundproofing contribute to an excellent ride. The journey itself is very enjoyable, we connect to the A52 right away and the driver cranks up the speed. The coach is driven with a sense of professional urgency, weaving around traffic rather than being incumbent in the slow-lane. As we enter Nottingham and the road becomes more urban bus lanes allow the red arrow to sail past cars. I'm obviously bias but if I was genuinely commuting between the two cities every day it could not think why anybody would choose their car over this. I like to think I have a nice car and this is still potentially a nicer place to sit!  

310 - YJ07 VSE Optare Tempo Rushcliffe Mainline: Nottingham City Centre - Radcliffe-on-Trent
Another service, another excellent branding exercise by trentbarton. Rushcliffe Mainline & Rushcliffe Villager. There's no tenuous link or unnecessary cheesiness to this brand (I'm looking at you, Fast Cats, and Director's Cut, Arriva!). You don't have to know the area to guess that both routes go to Rushcliffe and one's a faster route, one goes via the villages along the way. Boom. Done. Next. Branding done well. It's worth noting how trentbarton don't pair their brands with a number also. The brand is the name of the route, they simply don't have a number. And why should it? It would only confuse matters. On the subject of branding here's an image of the same vehicle when it was allocated to the 'black cat':

https://www.flickr.com/photos/harryhalibut/2484185059/

Hardly the same as a yellow MPD in Sunderland is it?

I really like this version of the Optare Tempo. It's boxy design stands out and I imagine makes a great canvas for branding. The windows are much taller than many other models and the thin pillars between them add to the airiness of the interior. Even better is the area at the back where the top escape hatch doubles as a skylight and seats are mounted side-on which increases floorspace. It's a shame this concept didn't catch on in as windows seem to be getting smaller, particularly with Wrightbus. The ride is a bit squeaky which is fair enough on a bus this age, but nonetheless enjoyable place to be. 

680 - FJ55 ABF Scania L95UB Wright Solar Rushcliffe Mainline: Radcliffe-on-Trent - Nottingham City Centre
Non-branded spares are essential for an operation such as trentbarton, or Go North East for that matter. There's a notable difference in how the two companies present their spares. My opinion is Go North East's corporate effort is lazy. The allover red makes the vehicle look like a constant 'work-in-progress'; a white relief would improve the livery no-end. If it's planned for that vehicle to be spare for many years it would be worthwhile to livery it properly. trentbarton however, have again executed this well. Rather than a fleet livery, the spares are used to advertise items such as day tickets, which 680 does. It's still clearly identifiable as a trentbarton vehicle due to the house style of branding and also as a Rushcliffe Mainline by not only the destination screen but a large card placed in a frame visible through the windscreen. 

What struck me first about this bus was the driver. She was stunning! A very pretty young lady, no older than me (23) and distinctly 'girly'. Lovely make-up, hair and appropriate jewellery. She was very petite and dwarfed by the large steering column and seat of the Scania. I once read online trentbarton dislike hiring from other bus companies as existing drivers have often been worn down an overworked and therefore lost their passion for the job. This lady epitomised efforts to change the image of the grumpy old bus driver and rock on girl for not being intimidated my a male dominated industry and well done trentbarton for supporting her. To make this whole passage sound a lot less creepy I best point out I'm gay and didn't spent the journey leering over the poor soul. I'm certain trentbarton tend to keep their drivers on dedicated routes though, so you know where to find her on your trips to trentbarton land, boys!
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I noticed the bus carried timetables for the service it was on despite being a spare. It's unlikely that the depot change these every day so maybe there's a system of even allocating the spares to a route for when branding vehicles are in the depot. I also noticed none of the buses I'd been on so far had an assault screen, which was nice. It's nice to know passengers are trusted enough not to attack their driver. On the way back into Nottingham a City Transport Enviro 400 went the other way featuring a full rear advert for Batman V Superman. It was on route 1 to Gotham. It was too damn far away to photograph before I realised!

 73 FJ10 OXN Scania Irizar I4 Skylink Express: Nottingham City Centre - East Midlands Airport
Skylink Express is trentbarton's newest venture, providing a fast link to EMA form Nottingham using coaches freed up from the red arrow upgrade. Despite being a new and uncertain venture, they've gone all-out with the branding and there's no hint of red inside or out. The service departs from Broadmarsh bus station which is a bit of a mess. Partially reminiscent of old Eldon Square there's buses squashed everywhere and passengers having to cross the carraigeways to reach their stops. To make matters worse it appears the original layover area has been converted to a charging area for the fleet of electric Optare Solos used in the city. An alternative layover area has been made by sectioning off a lane of traffic outside the station using constriction barriers; though I get the feeling this is a permanent 'solution'. The clear issue here is with buses piled up in single file, if the one first in line has a long layover it will need to leave the bay to let the bus behind out. I'd put this behind Durham in the bad bus station awards. 

This coach highlights the level of upgrade the red arrow has recently received. This previous stock was looking well worn after 5 years of service, though the lightweight seating and e-leather wouldn't have helped. At first I chose to sit around the wheelchair bay which is in the centre of the vehicle due to the aprox. 7ft leg room in this area. The photo below shows the layout:
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Two things popped into my mind looking at this area. Firstly, with the slippy factor of these seats there's a real risk of a sharp right turn sending a sleeping commuter into that deep gap! Secondly I remembered both terminal bus stations used by red arrow are a bay set-up whereby only the front door meets the Kerb. what would be the reality of a wheelchair user wishing to board? My musing were interrupted by the sheer concentration needed to remain on the seat! I elected to move to the very back to be secured in by the wall. Much more comfortable. Mechanically the bus sound tired too, seeming slow at  and struggling to keep up with traffic on the open roads. This Irizar bodywork isn't very popular in the UK and it's easy to assume why. The lower cabin height and seemingly lightweight structure seems much more suited to their home country of Spain where coach use on stagecarraige work is much more common. After alighting I notice this on the side boot lid, never missing a trick trentbarton!
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It's odd suddenly being at an airport terminal with no intention of boarding a plane. Even more so when I step outside and spot a trio of North-East bus enthusiasts! They get bloody everywhere. On that note, what's the correct term for a group of enthusiasts? Pack? Gaggle? I like the term used for a group of Pugs - grumble. "Oh flip, there's a grumble of enthusiasts at the corner." I think it works. 

Another branded spare pulled up during my next wait. This one simply was a big high five to their team. It's effective PR and must help morale to be branded as superheros, I love it!
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911 BX64 WJK Mercedes Citaro Skylink Derby: East Midlands Airport - Derby Bus Station
Oh how I wish Go North East carried on their commitment to the Citaro on to this next generation. The styling is one of the best out there and the Skylink livery really sets it off. The Skylink route is long and tightly timed with lots of open roads. No worries for the Citaro which is remarkably fast. All trentbarton drivers I've met today have been pleasant, but this driver is the winner - he spent most of the route singing! Although he does really work for sister company Kinchbus, the Skylink has cleverly been designed to fit in with trentbarton brands in Derby. 

330 YJ12 GWL Optare Tempo SR i4: Derby Bus Station - Spondon
I hate to say it but I think Optare were trying too hard with the Tempo SR. The styling is certainly striking but was probably a bit too 'out-there' to really catch on. I can't imagine it really offers any fuel/capacity/technical advantages over the Versa. From first impressions the promise so much, the interior looks smart even if the 'i4' brand is a bit obscure. The build quality and ride really lets the bus down, it rattled more than the 15 year old Excel from the start of the day. It's compounded by the heating which is insanely intense! My eyes were soon itching from the dry air. A quick check on Google Maps finds the first opportunity to change services to get back to Derby. 

809 YJ11 ENO Optare Versa Spondon Flyer: Spondon - Derby Bus Station
I wasn't going to bother with the Spondon Flyer as the Versas seemed a tad uninteresting. I'm really glad I sampled one; they are an exercise in branding. First up is the bus stop info 
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First up, rest of the world take note of a great, clear, bus timetable. Not difficult. Second, look at the attention to detail i4 has 'travel time', the flyer has 'flight time', ace! The flight theme goes full throttle on board. The service logo which is reminiscent of the classic BOAC logo is embroided into the seat headrests. The coving adverts are stylised as flight safety information cards, boarding passes and even luggage labels. I almost missed this next one though:
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Look at that! almost unnoticeable behind the coving is some aeroplane-esque seat numbers! Absolutely useless in reality but absolutely fantastic at the same time. It' attention to detail like that which sets trentbarton apart. Many operators have taken inspiration from their branding, few will commit to this level. The Versa itself is sounding tired from this fairly demanding city route but who care when your flying! Just to finish the experience, here's a photo of the waiting area at Derby bus station:
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Another example of pure commitment to selling their service as a brand passengers immerse themselves in and become affectionate for. It's easy to see how this works, but it really does require a different approach to selling bus travel. 

259 - Y259 DRC Optare Excel Route D1: Derby City Centre - Derby Meteor Centre
The bus and driver I started my day with also bring my journeys to a close. There's not much more to say here as I've already been an board already but it is nice to have another ride on one of these rare vehicles. With nothing much on my mind now I stare out the window to have a look at Derby. We pass a factory advertising 'Make your own yoghurt'. The more I repeat that in my head the creepier it sounds, I'm not even sure why. Who thought that would be a good thing to put on a sign? Sufficiently grossed out by Derby I head back to the car; a rather enjoyable and 'really good' adventure!

DanPicken

Banned

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23 Mar 2016, 6:39 am #4,030
(22 Mar 2016, 11:05 pm)LeeCalder Tomorrow will be the first chance that I have really had to take advantage of my staff pass, so my plan is as follows...

0717 #21 Barley Mow to Newcastle Eldon Square operated by Go North East (Arrive 0753)
0800 #X85 Newcastle Eldon Square to Hexham Bus Station operated by Go North East (Arrive 0847)
1002 #X84 Hexham Bus Station to Newcastle Gallowgate operated by Go North East (Arrive 1100)
1106 #Metro St James to Tynemouth (Arrive 1131)
1148 #900 Tynemouth to Whitley Bay operated by Arriva North East (Arrive 1157)
1301 #900 Whitley Bay to Tynemouth operated by Arriva North East (Arrive 1316)
1326 #Metro Tynemouth to North Shields (Arrive 1329)
1400 #Ferry North Shields to South Shields (Arrive 1407)
1412 #20 South Shield to Park Lane Interchange operated by Go North East (Arrive 1443)
1556 #8 Park Lane Interchange to Chester-le-Street operated by Go North East (Arrive 1655)

I have no set plan after my journey on the 8, however, I'm guessing my plan will go out the window in Newcastle due to the roadworks in Low Fell...
Looks fun, I have will be 900 bashing next week.
DanPicken
23 Mar 2016, 6:39 am #4,030

(22 Mar 2016, 11:05 pm)LeeCalder Tomorrow will be the first chance that I have really had to take advantage of my staff pass, so my plan is as follows...

0717 #21 Barley Mow to Newcastle Eldon Square operated by Go North East (Arrive 0753)
0800 #X85 Newcastle Eldon Square to Hexham Bus Station operated by Go North East (Arrive 0847)
1002 #X84 Hexham Bus Station to Newcastle Gallowgate operated by Go North East (Arrive 1100)
1106 #Metro St James to Tynemouth (Arrive 1131)
1148 #900 Tynemouth to Whitley Bay operated by Arriva North East (Arrive 1157)
1301 #900 Whitley Bay to Tynemouth operated by Arriva North East (Arrive 1316)
1326 #Metro Tynemouth to North Shields (Arrive 1329)
1400 #Ferry North Shields to South Shields (Arrive 1407)
1412 #20 South Shield to Park Lane Interchange operated by Go North East (Arrive 1443)
1556 #8 Park Lane Interchange to Chester-le-Street operated by Go North East (Arrive 1655)

I have no set plan after my journey on the 8, however, I'm guessing my plan will go out the window in Newcastle due to the roadworks in Low Fell...
Looks fun, I have will be 900 bashing next week.

BusLoverMum



5,288
23 Mar 2016, 12:10 pm #4,031
Kinky buses?!

Oh my.

I think they actually over-egged that one somewhat.

"Mum. MUM! What does kinky mean?"
"I think, in this case, it might refer to all the dents in the bus from reversing in the bus station."
"What else does it mean?
"I suggest you look it up in a dictionary."
"I don't do dictionaries."
"That's your lookout, then."
BusLoverMum
23 Mar 2016, 12:10 pm #4,031

Kinky buses?!

Oh my.

I think they actually over-egged that one somewhat.

"Mum. MUM! What does kinky mean?"
"I think, in this case, it might refer to all the dents in the bus from reversing in the bus station."
"What else does it mean?
"I suggest you look it up in a dictionary."
"I don't do dictionaries."
"That's your lookout, then."

24 Mar 2016, 8:31 pm #4,032
Today so me go seek 9104 and then another ride on 9102. Well this is what i did
6096 56
640 700
4025 metro
4033 metro
19432 22
9104 A3
4069 metro
142063 northern
6092 56
28029 4
640 700
4047 metro
9102 20
548 38
5217 20A
542 238
4945 20
36088 5A
36084 5A
28023 13
8273 33
4937 38
T206clo scholars
5324 61
34605 18
4903 99.

Today was my trip to get a ride on 9104. I began my day on 6096 this was half empty then boring old journeys on the metro once on 9104 it felt ok.
Well to tired to review but here is my review

4842
Best bus ever
biglugs@yahoo.com
24 Mar 2016, 8:31 pm #4,032

Today so me go seek 9104 and then another ride on 9102. Well this is what i did
6096 56
640 700
4025 metro
4033 metro
19432 22
9104 A3
4069 metro
142063 northern
6092 56
28029 4
640 700
4047 metro
9102 20
548 38
5217 20A
542 238
4945 20
36088 5A
36084 5A
28023 13
8273 33
4937 38
T206clo scholars
5324 61
34605 18
4903 99.

Today was my trip to get a ride on 9104. I began my day on 6096 this was half empty then boring old journeys on the metro once on 9104 it felt ok.
Well to tired to review but here is my review


4842
Best bus ever

LeeCalder



1,928
26 Mar 2016, 3:12 pm #4,033
I've had a brilliant day out in Tynedale, I already have a photo of the new Solo SR's from Hexham but decided I would venture further for photos.

I ended up in Haltwhistle, Bellingham, Wall and Halton Lea Gate.
Edited 26 Mar 2016, 3:13 pm by LeeCalder.
LeeCalder
26 Mar 2016, 3:12 pm #4,033

I've had a brilliant day out in Tynedale, I already have a photo of the new Solo SR's from Hexham but decided I would venture further for photos.

I ended up in Haltwhistle, Bellingham, Wall and Halton Lea Gate.

Jimmi



10,977
26 Mar 2016, 4:21 pm #4,034
(26 Mar 2016, 3:12 pm)LeeCalder I've had a brilliant day out in Tynedale, I already have a photo of the new Solo SR's from Hexham but decided I would venture further for photos.

I ended up in Haltwhistle, Bellingham, Wall and Halton Lea Gate.

Saw you as I came into Hexham on the first 689 this morning.

I've done Hexham, Haltwhistle, Corbridge and Wall, as I sampled the PCL Travel 880 from Hexham.

Now on-board 667 on the 74 to Newcastle, WiFi works brilliantly!
Jimmi
26 Mar 2016, 4:21 pm #4,034

(26 Mar 2016, 3:12 pm)LeeCalder I've had a brilliant day out in Tynedale, I already have a photo of the new Solo SR's from Hexham but decided I would venture further for photos.

I ended up in Haltwhistle, Bellingham, Wall and Halton Lea Gate.

Saw you as I came into Hexham on the first 689 this morning.

I've done Hexham, Haltwhistle, Corbridge and Wall, as I sampled the PCL Travel 880 from Hexham.

Now on-board 667 on the 74 to Newcastle, WiFi works brilliantly!

LeeCalder



1,928
26 Mar 2016, 4:33 pm #4,035
(26 Mar 2016, 4:21 pm)Jimmi Saw you as I came into Hexham on the first 689 this morning.

I've done Hexham, Haltwhistle, Corbridge and Wall, as I sampled the PCL Travel 880 from Hexham.

Now on-board 667 on the 74 to Newcastle, WiFi works brilliantly!

I seen you board the AD122, was it a good journey?
LeeCalder
26 Mar 2016, 4:33 pm #4,035

(26 Mar 2016, 4:21 pm)Jimmi Saw you as I came into Hexham on the first 689 this morning.

I've done Hexham, Haltwhistle, Corbridge and Wall, as I sampled the PCL Travel 880 from Hexham.

Now on-board 667 on the 74 to Newcastle, WiFi works brilliantly!

I seen you board the AD122, was it a good journey?

Jimmi



10,977
26 Mar 2016, 4:37 pm #4,036
(26 Mar 2016, 4:33 pm)LeeCalder I seen you board the AD122, was it a good journey?
Yeah I did Hexham Rail Station - Haltwhistle on the 11:10 journey from Hexham. Lovely route, scenery is great I'd strongly recommend it!

Not even half way through the route yet but I'd strongly recommend the 74 as well.

May do a review of today's outing as it has been a good one today.
Jimmi
26 Mar 2016, 4:37 pm #4,036

(26 Mar 2016, 4:33 pm)LeeCalder I seen you board the AD122, was it a good journey?
Yeah I did Hexham Rail Station - Haltwhistle on the 11:10 journey from Hexham. Lovely route, scenery is great I'd strongly recommend it!

Not even half way through the route yet but I'd strongly recommend the 74 as well.

May do a review of today's outing as it has been a good one today.

26 Mar 2016, 5:00 pm #4,037
(26 Mar 2016, 4:37 pm)Jimmi Yeah I did Hexham Rail Station - Haltwhistle on the 11:10 journey from Hexham. Lovely route, scenery is great I'd strongly recommend it!

Not even half way through the route yet but I'd strongly recommend the 74 as well.

May do a review of today's outing as it has been a good one today.

How was the journey on PCLs Dart?
I had a good day today and it was nice meeting you for the first time : )
I might do a review too

My New Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/140662069@N02/ - Posts every Weekend at the minimum Smile
South Tyne Lad
26 Mar 2016, 5:00 pm #4,037

(26 Mar 2016, 4:37 pm)Jimmi Yeah I did Hexham Rail Station - Haltwhistle on the 11:10 journey from Hexham. Lovely route, scenery is great I'd strongly recommend it!

Not even half way through the route yet but I'd strongly recommend the 74 as well.

May do a review of today's outing as it has been a good one today.

How was the journey on PCLs Dart?
I had a good day today and it was nice meeting you for the first time : )
I might do a review too


My New Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/140662069@N02/ - Posts every Weekend at the minimum Smile

Jimmi



10,977
26 Mar 2016, 5:22 pm #4,038
(26 Mar 2016, 5:00 pm)South Tyne Lad How was the journey on PCLs Dart?
I had a good day today and it was nice meeting you for the first time : )
I might do a review too

Basically felt just like a pretty standard Dart of that era really. Seat at the back was surprisingly more comfortable than normal as it's like the back seats on Enviro 200's seemed to have more padding than normal. Got off in Wall and managed to get a photo before he left which is nice as it means I have a photo of that somewhere other than Hexham Bus Station.

It was a pleasure to meet you, pleased you had a good day

Hoping this rain eases off a bit, still on the 74.

Review from me will be dependent on time as I want to get my photos on Flickr first and then of course I don't want to be up too late as I'm up early again tomorrow morning to head to Kirkby Stephen.
Jimmi
26 Mar 2016, 5:22 pm #4,038

(26 Mar 2016, 5:00 pm)South Tyne Lad How was the journey on PCLs Dart?
I had a good day today and it was nice meeting you for the first time : )
I might do a review too

Basically felt just like a pretty standard Dart of that era really. Seat at the back was surprisingly more comfortable than normal as it's like the back seats on Enviro 200's seemed to have more padding than normal. Got off in Wall and managed to get a photo before he left which is nice as it means I have a photo of that somewhere other than Hexham Bus Station.

It was a pleasure to meet you, pleased you had a good day

Hoping this rain eases off a bit, still on the 74.

Review from me will be dependent on time as I want to get my photos on Flickr first and then of course I don't want to be up too late as I'm up early again tomorrow morning to head to Kirkby Stephen.

26 Mar 2016, 5:44 pm #4,039
(26 Mar 2016, 5:22 pm)Jimmi Basically felt just like a pretty standard Dart of that era really. Seat at the back was surprisingly more comfortable than normal as it's like the back seats on Enviro 200's seemed to have more padding than normal. Got off in Wall and managed to get a photo before he left which is nice as it means I have a photo of that somewhere other than Hexham Bus Station.

It was a pleasure to meet you, pleased you had a good day

Hoping this rain eases off a bit, still on the 74.

Review from me will be dependent on time as I want to get my photos on Flickr first and then of course I don't want to be up too late as I'm up early again tomorrow morning to head to Kirkby Stephen.

Aye, It used to be with London United in its heyday, Though is a interesting Dart because 51 or 02 Reg Darts in London have the New Cummins ISB Engine but the old Allison AT545 gearbox.

Pleasure to meet you too  Smile

The weathers took a turn for the worse in the last 15 Mins but atleast I'm in the house now.

I'm going to start uploading my batch of photos in 10 Mins.
Edited 26 Mar 2016, 5:44 pm by South Tyne Lad.

My New Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/140662069@N02/ - Posts every Weekend at the minimum Smile
South Tyne Lad
26 Mar 2016, 5:44 pm #4,039

(26 Mar 2016, 5:22 pm)Jimmi Basically felt just like a pretty standard Dart of that era really. Seat at the back was surprisingly more comfortable than normal as it's like the back seats on Enviro 200's seemed to have more padding than normal. Got off in Wall and managed to get a photo before he left which is nice as it means I have a photo of that somewhere other than Hexham Bus Station.

It was a pleasure to meet you, pleased you had a good day

Hoping this rain eases off a bit, still on the 74.

Review from me will be dependent on time as I want to get my photos on Flickr first and then of course I don't want to be up too late as I'm up early again tomorrow morning to head to Kirkby Stephen.

Aye, It used to be with London United in its heyday, Though is a interesting Dart because 51 or 02 Reg Darts in London have the New Cummins ISB Engine but the old Allison AT545 gearbox.

Pleasure to meet you too  Smile

The weathers took a turn for the worse in the last 15 Mins but atleast I'm in the house now.

I'm going to start uploading my batch of photos in 10 Mins.


My New Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/140662069@N02/ - Posts every Weekend at the minimum Smile

Adrian



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26 Mar 2016, 5:56 pm #4,040
(26 Mar 2016, 3:12 pm)LeeCalder I've had a brilliant day out in Tynedale, I already have a photo of the new Solo SR's from Hexham but decided I would venture further for photos.

I ended up in Haltwhistle, Bellingham, Wall and Halton Lea Gate.

There's some nice picturesque places for photo up there, that's for sure! 

Dare I ask your opinion on the livery? Tongue

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Adrian
26 Mar 2016, 5:56 pm #4,040

(26 Mar 2016, 3:12 pm)LeeCalder I've had a brilliant day out in Tynedale, I already have a photo of the new Solo SR's from Hexham but decided I would venture further for photos.

I ended up in Haltwhistle, Bellingham, Wall and Halton Lea Gate.

There's some nice picturesque places for photo up there, that's for sure! 

Dare I ask your opinion on the livery? Tongue


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