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10 Sep 2020, 11:18 pm #13
(10 Sep 2020, 10:51 pm)Storx Yeah I have to totally agree with everything you've said.

With the X Lines, you could look much closer at home with Ma'x' branding tbh. I know the usual suspects will have replied if I didn't put this saying that Arriva don't hold standards and the buses aren't clean and the WiFi never works or whatever but X Lines is blatently copying Max (coving, timetables and brand name) and features off Sapphire (WiFi, fancy seating (early on), plugs/USB, NSA's) and when they have marketing near identical it really gives off the impression even more. Arriva would have been critised as hell if it was the other way round.

Not that I'm really complaining as it's a good standard of service - if they keep it up at least anyway and not let it slide like others or start doing branding in house and pretty badly at the same time.

I think the thing is I just about trust GNE to keep the standards high, whereas I don't trust Arriva in the slightest. 
If Arriva had managed to keep Sapphire a 'premium' service, I think I probably would have criticised GNE for essentially copying.

I think if Arriva had succeeded, we would have seen something similar from GNE much sooner, but it looks like GNE just stood back and watched what did and didn't work with Arriva's approach, and took the best parts to create X-Lines.

Instead of having three tiers ('standard', Sapphire and MAX), GNE made Sapphire the 'standard' and merged Sapphire and MAX to make X-Lines. 

The upside of doing that is there's not really much difference spec wise between the 'standard' buses and X-Lines, so if an X-Lines bus is off the road, it can be swapped out with little to no affect on the passenger experience.

Whereas with Arriva, if a Sapphire bus is out of service and is replaced by a 'standard' bus, you lose all the creature comforts like USB ports, Next Stop Announcements, Free WiFi.

Obviously the same still happens from time to time with GNE, but far less than I see with Arriva
streetdeckfan
10 Sep 2020, 11:18 pm #13

(10 Sep 2020, 10:51 pm)Storx Yeah I have to totally agree with everything you've said.

With the X Lines, you could look much closer at home with Ma'x' branding tbh. I know the usual suspects will have replied if I didn't put this saying that Arriva don't hold standards and the buses aren't clean and the WiFi never works or whatever but X Lines is blatently copying Max (coving, timetables and brand name) and features off Sapphire (WiFi, fancy seating (early on), plugs/USB, NSA's) and when they have marketing near identical it really gives off the impression even more. Arriva would have been critised as hell if it was the other way round.

Not that I'm really complaining as it's a good standard of service - if they keep it up at least anyway and not let it slide like others or start doing branding in house and pretty badly at the same time.

I think the thing is I just about trust GNE to keep the standards high, whereas I don't trust Arriva in the slightest. 
If Arriva had managed to keep Sapphire a 'premium' service, I think I probably would have criticised GNE for essentially copying.

I think if Arriva had succeeded, we would have seen something similar from GNE much sooner, but it looks like GNE just stood back and watched what did and didn't work with Arriva's approach, and took the best parts to create X-Lines.

Instead of having three tiers ('standard', Sapphire and MAX), GNE made Sapphire the 'standard' and merged Sapphire and MAX to make X-Lines. 

The upside of doing that is there's not really much difference spec wise between the 'standard' buses and X-Lines, so if an X-Lines bus is off the road, it can be swapped out with little to no affect on the passenger experience.

Whereas with Arriva, if a Sapphire bus is out of service and is replaced by a 'standard' bus, you lose all the creature comforts like USB ports, Next Stop Announcements, Free WiFi.

Obviously the same still happens from time to time with GNE, but far less than I see with Arriva

 
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Paper Timetables - by Wybus - 10 Sep 2020, 6:00 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by streetdeckfan - 10 Sep 2020, 6:06 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by Adtrainsam - 10 Sep 2020, 7:12 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by Stanleyone - 10 Sep 2020, 7:44 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by streetdeckfan - 10 Sep 2020, 8:10 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by S813 FVK - 10 Sep 2020, 8:24 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by streetdeckfan - 10 Sep 2020, 9:31 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by Storx - 10 Sep 2020, 10:16 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by Wybus - 10 Sep 2020, 10:36 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by Storx - 10 Sep 2020, 10:51 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by streetdeckfan - 10 Sep 2020, 11:18 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by Storx - 10 Sep 2020, 11:58 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by BeachBoy99 - 11 Sep 2020, 12:43 am
RE: Paper Timetables - by streetdeckfan - 11 Sep 2020, 1:05 pm
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RE: Paper Timetables - by streetdeckfan - 11 Sep 2020, 2:04 pm
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