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Adrian



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03 Jan 2023, 6:11 pm #113
(03 Jan 2023, 5:07 pm)DeltaMan See, I don't agree. At the risk of sounding like Roger French, I think they are essential as part of a package.

I know of two companies than went to a uni open day. One took a proper timetable and the other took a piece of paper with a QR code to a link (which didn't work). I can tell you the bin was full of the QR codes and the timetable booklet were exhausted (and not binned).

It is also a drop in the ocean compared to the overall turnover of a medium to large bus companny. It's certainly not the timetable leaflets fault if an operator can't schedule it's services properly.

Of course, they are the first thing a bean counter looks at when trying to save some money when said service changes are a disaster.

What makes them essential though? A commercial operator's primary objective is to get passengers from A to B, whilst at least breaking even in doing so. As far as a business is concerned, it's non-essential expenditure, because it's absence doesn't impact it's ability to meet the primary objective.

The likes of Roger will bang on about them as essential, but it's not like the information is being completely removed from those without Internet or smartphone access. There's timetables displayed at every stop (and the local authority will replace it if missing) and there's the Traveline service by phone. I'm sure even GNE customer services would do something on an individual basis, if there's a particular need from a customer.

Longer term, with Enhanced Partnerships, we'll hopefully see a better progression of real-time info at more stops too, similar to what Brighton have managed to oll out.

On the Uni example; I'd expect pieces of paper with QR code to end up in the bin, because once someone has accessed it with a smart phone, then they have the app download or website it's linking them to. It serves no purpose to that person beyond that single use. Instead of using a couple trees worth of paper though, they could have considered something large format (such as a pull-up banner) with the same information on - and a QR code large enough to scan.

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03 Jan 2023, 6:11 pm #113

(03 Jan 2023, 5:07 pm)DeltaMan See, I don't agree. At the risk of sounding like Roger French, I think they are essential as part of a package.

I know of two companies than went to a uni open day. One took a proper timetable and the other took a piece of paper with a QR code to a link (which didn't work). I can tell you the bin was full of the QR codes and the timetable booklet were exhausted (and not binned).

It is also a drop in the ocean compared to the overall turnover of a medium to large bus companny. It's certainly not the timetable leaflets fault if an operator can't schedule it's services properly.

Of course, they are the first thing a bean counter looks at when trying to save some money when said service changes are a disaster.

What makes them essential though? A commercial operator's primary objective is to get passengers from A to B, whilst at least breaking even in doing so. As far as a business is concerned, it's non-essential expenditure, because it's absence doesn't impact it's ability to meet the primary objective.

The likes of Roger will bang on about them as essential, but it's not like the information is being completely removed from those without Internet or smartphone access. There's timetables displayed at every stop (and the local authority will replace it if missing) and there's the Traveline service by phone. I'm sure even GNE customer services would do something on an individual basis, if there's a particular need from a customer.

Longer term, with Enhanced Partnerships, we'll hopefully see a better progression of real-time info at more stops too, similar to what Brighton have managed to oll out.

On the Uni example; I'd expect pieces of paper with QR code to end up in the bin, because once someone has accessed it with a smart phone, then they have the app download or website it's linking them to. It serves no purpose to that person beyond that single use. Instead of using a couple trees worth of paper though, they could have considered something large format (such as a pull-up banner) with the same information on - and a QR code large enough to scan.


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Paper Timetables - by Wybus - 10 Sep 2020, 6:00 pm
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Paper Timetables - by Dan - 03 Jan 2023, 5:11 am
RE: Paper Timetables - by streetdeckfan - 03 Jan 2023, 12:53 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by Adrian - 03 Jan 2023, 1:49 pm
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RE: Paper Timetables - by Adrian - 03 Jan 2023, 2:55 pm
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RE: Paper Timetables - by DeltaMan - 03 Jan 2023, 5:07 pm
RE: Paper Timetables - by Adrian - 03 Jan 2023, 6:11 pm
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