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Storx



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24 Sep 2020, 10:52 pm #21
(24 Sep 2020, 10:44 pm)streetdeckfan Exactly, there are quite a few connections to Electricity up here (pun very much intended), I was just using that as an example as it's the first one I thought of.

Ah that's fair was thinking it's probably not the best to brand electric buses with a hydro electric brand when you can hydrogen fuel cell buses (bit conflicting).
Storx
24 Sep 2020, 10:52 pm #21

(24 Sep 2020, 10:44 pm)streetdeckfan Exactly, there are quite a few connections to Electricity up here (pun very much intended), I was just using that as an example as it's the first one I thought of.

Ah that's fair was thinking it's probably not the best to brand electric buses with a hydro electric brand when you can hydrogen fuel cell buses (bit conflicting).

Adrian



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24 Sep 2020, 10:57 pm #22
(24 Sep 2020, 9:16 pm)streetdeckfan To be fair, If it was me I'd go with Saltwell Electrics, but with the plan being to get more EVs in the future, I think they may want to go with a dedicated brand for the EVs, like they have X-Lines for the express routes.
Saltwell Electrics, similar to Harrogate Electrics, sounds like a 2nd hand electrical goods shop.

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Adrian
24 Sep 2020, 10:57 pm #22

(24 Sep 2020, 9:16 pm)streetdeckfan To be fair, If it was me I'd go with Saltwell Electrics, but with the plan being to get more EVs in the future, I think they may want to go with a dedicated brand for the EVs, like they have X-Lines for the express routes.
Saltwell Electrics, similar to Harrogate Electrics, sounds like a 2nd hand electrical goods shop.

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24 Sep 2020, 11:04 pm #23
(24 Sep 2020, 10:57 pm)Adrian Saltwell Electrics, similar to Harrogate Electrics, sounds like a 2nd hand electrical goods shop.

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Now you mention that, it kind of reminds me of the 'Heat Electric' campaign from the 90s, which whilst being made before me, are some of my favourite TV ads.

(24 Sep 2020, 10:52 pm)Storx Ah that's fair was thinking it's probably not the best to brand electric buses with a hydro electric brand when you can hydrogen fuel cell buses (bit conflicting).

Doing a bit of research, it looks like Joseph Swan was approached to illuminate the lake in Saltwell Park, but he never responded. It's a shame because that would have made for some excellent branding for EVs!
Edited 24 Sep 2020, 11:08 pm by streetdeckfan.
streetdeckfan
24 Sep 2020, 11:04 pm #23

(24 Sep 2020, 10:57 pm)Adrian Saltwell Electrics, similar to Harrogate Electrics, sounds like a 2nd hand electrical goods shop.

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Now you mention that, it kind of reminds me of the 'Heat Electric' campaign from the 90s, which whilst being made before me, are some of my favourite TV ads.

(24 Sep 2020, 10:52 pm)Storx Ah that's fair was thinking it's probably not the best to brand electric buses with a hydro electric brand when you can hydrogen fuel cell buses (bit conflicting).

Doing a bit of research, it looks like Joseph Swan was approached to illuminate the lake in Saltwell Park, but he never responded. It's a shame because that would have made for some excellent branding for EVs!

25 Sep 2020, 11:52 am #24
Will there be quick charge points installed at Heworth, Gateshead Interchanges for these buses when waiting during long turnarounds. The 58 definitely sits at heworth for a bit.

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25 Sep 2020, 11:52 am #24

Will there be quick charge points installed at Heworth, Gateshead Interchanges for these buses when waiting during long turnarounds. The 58 definitely sits at heworth for a bit.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/uUMFXbAtusSfyyebA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1kYEXBn2DitA63tF7


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25 Sep 2020, 12:01 pm #25
(25 Sep 2020, 11:52 am)ASX_Terranova Will there be quick charge points installed at Heworth, Gateshead Interchanges for these buses when waiting during long turnarounds. The 58 definitely sits at heworth for a bit.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/uUMFXbAtusSfyyebA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1kYEXBn2DitA63tF7

There shouldn't really need to be providing the buses have adequate range. Plus, quick charging degrades the battery quicker than a slower, overnight charge.
They're the same as a mobile phone, you should only charge it to 80% and never let it run flat.
streetdeckfan
25 Sep 2020, 12:01 pm #25

(25 Sep 2020, 11:52 am)ASX_Terranova Will there be quick charge points installed at Heworth, Gateshead Interchanges for these buses when waiting during long turnarounds. The 58 definitely sits at heworth for a bit.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/uUMFXbAtusSfyyebA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1kYEXBn2DitA63tF7

There shouldn't really need to be providing the buses have adequate range. Plus, quick charging degrades the battery quicker than a slower, overnight charge.
They're the same as a mobile phone, you should only charge it to 80% and never let it run flat.

Michael



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25 Sep 2020, 5:47 pm #26
Sure I read somewhere, that they'll be more information next week about it.. along with a picture of the buses in the brand..... I want to know how they got them in to SM without any bus spotter taking photo's and leaking them online, they must of arrived in middle of the night haha

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Michael
25 Sep 2020, 5:47 pm #26

Sure I read somewhere, that they'll be more information next week about it.. along with a picture of the buses in the brand..... I want to know how they got them in to SM without any bus spotter taking photo's and leaking them online, they must of arrived in middle of the night haha


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busmanT



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25 Sep 2020, 5:59 pm #27
(24 Sep 2020, 9:47 pm)streetdeckfan I think when there's just a few routes that are electric, it makes sense from a marketing perspective to get the word out, and having dedicated branding for electrics makes sense. 

For example, by launching the X-lines brand, GNE have brought quite a lot of attention to the 'expressness' (or lack of in some cases!) of routes, much more than they could have done through other forms of marketing. I think they'd want to do the same with the electrics, especially if they are still planning on having multiple electrified routes.

But for the same reason you mentioned, I personally don't like the whole 'look at me, I'm electric' type of branding that Voltra would entail (and the fact I absolutely hate the name, it just sounds awful).

Some of GNE's best brands have been where they have a local connection, and I think it would be a waste to not take advantage of the fact the North East has some history with Electricity.
Xlines is, of course, the modern day "Expresslink" network.

(25 Sep 2020, 5:47 pm)Michael Sure I read somewhere, that they'll be more information next week about it.. along with a picture of the buses in the brand..... I want to know how they got them in to SM without any bus spotter taking photo's and leaking them online, they must of arrived in middle of the night haha
I'm sure they will be in Castleford! 
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Edited 25 Sep 2020, 6:02 pm by busmanT.
busmanT
25 Sep 2020, 5:59 pm #27

(24 Sep 2020, 9:47 pm)streetdeckfan I think when there's just a few routes that are electric, it makes sense from a marketing perspective to get the word out, and having dedicated branding for electrics makes sense. 

For example, by launching the X-lines brand, GNE have brought quite a lot of attention to the 'expressness' (or lack of in some cases!) of routes, much more than they could have done through other forms of marketing. I think they'd want to do the same with the electrics, especially if they are still planning on having multiple electrified routes.

But for the same reason you mentioned, I personally don't like the whole 'look at me, I'm electric' type of branding that Voltra would entail (and the fact I absolutely hate the name, it just sounds awful).

Some of GNE's best brands have been where they have a local connection, and I think it would be a waste to not take advantage of the fact the North East has some history with Electricity.
Xlines is, of course, the modern day "Expresslink" network.

(25 Sep 2020, 5:47 pm)Michael Sure I read somewhere, that they'll be more information next week about it.. along with a picture of the buses in the brand..... I want to know how they got them in to SM without any bus spotter taking photo's and leaking them online, they must of arrived in middle of the night haha
I'm sure they will be in Castleford! 
(at dealer Pelican)

Bazza



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26 Sep 2020, 2:22 am #28
(25 Sep 2020, 12:01 pm)streetdeckfan There shouldn't really need to be providing the buses have adequate range. Plus, quick charging degrades the battery quicker than a slower, overnight charge.
They're the same as a mobile phone, you should only charge it to 80% and never let it run flat.
Is that still the case?    I thought that new battery technology had done away with that

I wonder if GNE are regretting their choice of purchasing Yutongs now?

Due to the current pandemic and the economic fall out going with a British company would have been a much better choice
Edited 26 Sep 2020, 2:25 am by Bazza.
Bazza
26 Sep 2020, 2:22 am #28

(25 Sep 2020, 12:01 pm)streetdeckfan There shouldn't really need to be providing the buses have adequate range. Plus, quick charging degrades the battery quicker than a slower, overnight charge.
They're the same as a mobile phone, you should only charge it to 80% and never let it run flat.
Is that still the case?    I thought that new battery technology had done away with that

I wonder if GNE are regretting their choice of purchasing Yutongs now?

Due to the current pandemic and the economic fall out going with a British company would have been a much better choice

26 Sep 2020, 2:55 pm #29
(26 Sep 2020, 2:22 am)Bazza Is that still the case?    I thought that new battery technology had done away with that

I wonder if GNE are regretting their choice of purchasing Yutongs now?

Due to the current pandemic and the economic fall out going with a British company would have been a much better choice

I believe so, unless they're using a different battery tech. Even the likes of the Porsche Taycan only give the user about 80% of the battery, with the latter part being reserved for when the battery degrades so the range doesn't reduce.

I personally thought the E200EV was much better quality than the Yutongs, the demo they had running on the X66 felt like it was about to fall to bits, the E200 on the other hand was remarkably rattle free for an ADL!

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streetdeckfan
26 Sep 2020, 2:55 pm #29

(26 Sep 2020, 2:22 am)Bazza Is that still the case?    I thought that new battery technology had done away with that

I wonder if GNE are regretting their choice of purchasing Yutongs now?

Due to the current pandemic and the economic fall out going with a British company would have been a much better choice

I believe so, unless they're using a different battery tech. Even the likes of the Porsche Taycan only give the user about 80% of the battery, with the latter part being reserved for when the battery degrades so the range doesn't reduce.

I personally thought the E200EV was much better quality than the Yutongs, the demo they had running on the X66 felt like it was about to fall to bits, the E200 on the other hand was remarkably rattle free for an ADL!

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26 Sep 2020, 4:45 pm #30
(24 Sep 2020, 6:44 pm)Malarkey The green strip across the front may just be coincidence but the remainder of the base livery looks like that of Nottingham City Transport.

Also the roof pod is different to the E10's/E12's that have arrived already from China for First Leeds and Newport Transport and indicates to me that of a fuel cell bus.

Don't believe Yutong make a fuel cell bus that looks like an E10/E12 and if they did wouldnt the roof be alot taller? not sure though.
reymyster9
26 Sep 2020, 4:45 pm #30

(24 Sep 2020, 6:44 pm)Malarkey The green strip across the front may just be coincidence but the remainder of the base livery looks like that of Nottingham City Transport.

Also the roof pod is different to the E10's/E12's that have arrived already from China for First Leeds and Newport Transport and indicates to me that of a fuel cell bus.

Don't believe Yutong make a fuel cell bus that looks like an E10/E12 and if they did wouldnt the roof be alot taller? not sure though.

ne14ne1



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30 Sep 2020, 5:42 pm #31
Guessing all will be revealed tomorrow morning?

https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...43232?s=21
ne14ne1
30 Sep 2020, 5:42 pm #31

Guessing all will be revealed tomorrow morning?

https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...43232?s=21

Dan

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30 Sep 2020, 5:53 pm #32
(30 Sep 2020, 5:42 pm)ne14ne1 Guessing all will be revealed tomorrow morning?

https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...43232?s=21

Here's another little teaser:
https://twitter.com/Dan3942/status/1311362286339186688
Dan
30 Sep 2020, 5:53 pm #32

(30 Sep 2020, 5:42 pm)ne14ne1 Guessing all will be revealed tomorrow morning?

https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...43232?s=21

Here's another little teaser:
https://twitter.com/Dan3942/status/1311362286339186688

ne14ne1



1,514
30 Sep 2020, 5:53 pm #33
(30 Sep 2020, 5:42 pm)ne14ne1 Guessing all will be revealed tomorrow morning?

https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...43232?s=21

guess so... https://twitter.com/dan3942/status/13113...86688?s=21
ne14ne1
30 Sep 2020, 5:53 pm #33

(30 Sep 2020, 5:42 pm)ne14ne1 Guessing all will be revealed tomorrow morning?

https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...43232?s=21

guess so... https://twitter.com/dan3942/status/13113...86688?s=21

30 Sep 2020, 6:02 pm #34
(30 Sep 2020, 5:53 pm)Dan Here's another little teaser:
https://twitter.com/Dan3942/status/1311362286339186688
Interesting shade of grey. Looking at the Volta promotional videos, I definitely thought it would be a blue or green base colour. Why the silver?
The black “swoop” underneath the window also looks a bit odd, as all the recent brands have the road stripes. Looks a bit more NCT than GNE. Will the road stripes still be on these?

https://twitter.com/alextransdev/status/...gr%5Etweet
Adtrainsam
30 Sep 2020, 6:02 pm #34

(30 Sep 2020, 5:53 pm)Dan Here's another little teaser:
https://twitter.com/Dan3942/status/1311362286339186688
Interesting shade of grey. Looking at the Volta promotional videos, I definitely thought it would be a blue or green base colour. Why the silver?
The black “swoop” underneath the window also looks a bit odd, as all the recent brands have the road stripes. Looks a bit more NCT than GNE. Will the road stripes still be on these?

https://twitter.com/alextransdev/status/...gr%5Etweet

30 Sep 2020, 6:51 pm #35
(30 Sep 2020, 6:02 pm)Adtrainsam Interesting shade of grey. Looking at the Volta promotional videos, I definitely thought it would be a blue or green base colour. Why the silver?
The black “swoop” underneath the window also looks a bit odd, as all the recent brands have the road stripes. Looks a bit more NCT than GNE. Will the road stripes still be on these?

https://twitter.com/alextransdev/status/...gr%5Etweet

Looks a bit too bland for me to be honest, although I'm sure they'll jazz it up with some vinyl
streetdeckfan
30 Sep 2020, 6:51 pm #35

(30 Sep 2020, 6:02 pm)Adtrainsam Interesting shade of grey. Looking at the Volta promotional videos, I definitely thought it would be a blue or green base colour. Why the silver?
The black “swoop” underneath the window also looks a bit odd, as all the recent brands have the road stripes. Looks a bit more NCT than GNE. Will the road stripes still be on these?

https://twitter.com/alextransdev/status/...gr%5Etweet

Looks a bit too bland for me to be honest, although I'm sure they'll jazz it up with some vinyl

JP6004



1,833
30 Sep 2020, 7:17 pm #36
(30 Sep 2020, 6:51 pm)streetdeckfan Looks a bit too bland for me to be honest, although I'm sure they'll jazz it up with some vinyl
Hoping it's not another Cobalt & Coast...

Dont know if it's a protective film on the floor, but green flooring... Confused
JP6004
30 Sep 2020, 7:17 pm #36

(30 Sep 2020, 6:51 pm)streetdeckfan Looks a bit too bland for me to be honest, although I'm sure they'll jazz it up with some vinyl
Hoping it's not another Cobalt & Coast...

Dont know if it's a protective film on the floor, but green flooring... Confused

30 Sep 2020, 7:24 pm #37
(30 Sep 2020, 7:17 pm)JP6004 Hoping it's not another Cobalt & Coast...

Dont know if it's a protective film on the floor, but green flooring... Confused

As someone who went out and bought a bright green toilet seat and towels because the bathroom was too bland, I wouldn't mind green flooring!
streetdeckfan
30 Sep 2020, 7:24 pm #37

(30 Sep 2020, 7:17 pm)JP6004 Hoping it's not another Cobalt & Coast...

Dont know if it's a protective film on the floor, but green flooring... Confused

As someone who went out and bought a bright green toilet seat and towels because the bathroom was too bland, I wouldn't mind green flooring!

JP6004



1,833
30 Sep 2020, 7:27 pm #38
(30 Sep 2020, 7:24 pm)streetdeckfan As someone who went out and bought a bright green toilet seat and towels because the bathroom was too bland, I wouldn't mind green flooring!
Dont ever invite me in for a pee  Wink
JP6004
30 Sep 2020, 7:27 pm #38

(30 Sep 2020, 7:24 pm)streetdeckfan As someone who went out and bought a bright green toilet seat and towels because the bathroom was too bland, I wouldn't mind green flooring!
Dont ever invite me in for a pee  Wink

30 Sep 2020, 7:44 pm #39
(30 Sep 2020, 7:27 pm)JP6004 Dont ever invite me in for a pee  Wink

To be fair, that's probably the only colour I've got in the house, everything else is just grey. Grey flooring, grey kitchen, grey curtains, grey walls.

I did want to paint the front of the house pink, paying homage to my favourite Balamory character, but apparently I would have been disowned so I decided against that.

Basically, what I'm saying is I either like thing being really boring, or waaay over the top!
streetdeckfan
30 Sep 2020, 7:44 pm #39

(30 Sep 2020, 7:27 pm)JP6004 Dont ever invite me in for a pee  Wink

To be fair, that's probably the only colour I've got in the house, everything else is just grey. Grey flooring, grey kitchen, grey curtains, grey walls.

I did want to paint the front of the house pink, paying homage to my favourite Balamory character, but apparently I would have been disowned so I decided against that.

Basically, what I'm saying is I either like thing being really boring, or waaay over the top!

JP6004



1,833
30 Sep 2020, 7:50 pm #40
(30 Sep 2020, 7:44 pm)streetdeckfan To be fair, that's probably the only colour I've got in the house, everything else is just grey. Grey flooring, grey kitchen, grey curtains, grey walls.

I did want to paint the front of the house pink, paying homage to my favourite Balamory character, but apparently I would have been disowned so I decided against that.

Basically, what I'm saying is I either like thing being really boring, or waaay over the top!
See I hate bright colours in the house, just makes it look like the cheap mixing bowls from Argos. Mu old house was all monochrome and was pain to clean, specially the black glass. I much prefer wood, deep rich colours and plenty texture.

Back to convo, it just reminds me a bit of Team Valley Clipper colours
JP6004
30 Sep 2020, 7:50 pm #40

(30 Sep 2020, 7:44 pm)streetdeckfan To be fair, that's probably the only colour I've got in the house, everything else is just grey. Grey flooring, grey kitchen, grey curtains, grey walls.

I did want to paint the front of the house pink, paying homage to my favourite Balamory character, but apparently I would have been disowned so I decided against that.

Basically, what I'm saying is I either like thing being really boring, or waaay over the top!
See I hate bright colours in the house, just makes it look like the cheap mixing bowls from Argos. Mu old house was all monochrome and was pain to clean, specially the black glass. I much prefer wood, deep rich colours and plenty texture.

Back to convo, it just reminds me a bit of Team Valley Clipper colours

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