Arriva Future Orders
Arriva Future Orders
(27 Oct 2020, 5:11 pm)L469 YVK If Arriva do order in the not so distant future, I can see them going (depending on PVRs etc)
- 10x OM934 StreetDecks or ADL E400MMC (Voith) for 308
- 6x OM936 StreetDecks or Scania E400MMC for X93
7628-37 would then cascade down and replace older Geminis in turn replacing older double deckers.
7401-06 would then go to Ashington / Alnwick for either the X14 or X20 with 2x either also going or acting as 'float' spares.
(27 Oct 2020, 5:11 pm)L469 YVK If Arriva do order in the not so distant future, I can see them going (depending on PVRs etc)
- 10x OM934 StreetDecks or ADL E400MMC (Voith) for 308
- 6x OM936 StreetDecks or Scania E400MMC for X93
7628-37 would then cascade down and replace older Geminis in turn replacing older double deckers.
7401-06 would then go to Ashington / Alnwick for either the X14 or X20 with 2x either also going or acting as 'float' spares.
(27 Oct 2020, 5:11 pm)L469 YVK If Arriva do order in the not so distant future, I can see them going (depending on PVRs etc)
- 10x OM934 StreetDecks or ADL E400MMC (Voith) for 308
- 6x OM936 StreetDecks or Scania E400MMC for X93
7628-37 would then cascade down and replace older Geminis in turn replacing older double deckers.
7401-06 would then go to Ashington / Alnwick for either the X14 or X20 with 2x either also going or acting as 'float' spares.
(27 Oct 2020, 5:11 pm)L469 YVK If Arriva do order in the not so distant future, I can see them going (depending on PVRs etc)
- 10x OM934 StreetDecks or ADL E400MMC (Voith) for 308
- 6x OM936 StreetDecks or Scania E400MMC for X93
7628-37 would then cascade down and replace older Geminis in turn replacing older double deckers.
7401-06 would then go to Ashington / Alnwick for either the X14 or X20 with 2x either also going or acting as 'float' spares.
(27 Oct 2020, 6:10 pm)mb134 I don't see how B9s that have been destroyed on the X93 would be a better option than E400s of the same age on the X20, myself and Citaro5284 had one of the 64 plates on a Morpeth express over the summer and it handled the A1 stretch with no fuss. Bar 7553 which by all accounts is pretty awful, the rest of the younger E400s at Ashington are generally absolutely fine. 7555 also had some heat issues recently leading it to being at home with the Volvos on the 35 but it's been released back onto more demanding stuff over the last few days.
(27 Oct 2020, 6:10 pm)mb134 I don't see how B9s that have been destroyed on the X93 would be a better option than E400s of the same age on the X20, myself and Citaro5284 had one of the 64 plates on a Morpeth express over the summer and it handled the A1 stretch with no fuss. Bar 7553 which by all accounts is pretty awful, the rest of the younger E400s at Ashington are generally absolutely fine. 7555 also had some heat issues recently leading it to being at home with the Volvos on the 35 but it's been released back onto more demanding stuff over the last few days.
(27 Oct 2020, 5:23 pm)Cobalt271 The 308 had its investment a few years back with the refurbished DB300s so can't see that happening. I also highly doubt Arriva would purchase the E400MMC Scania since it doesn't operate the type anywhere in the UK currently & is considerably more expensive than the integral product.That was due to newer Volvo B5LHs being swapped with them and they had no choice.
(27 Oct 2020, 5:23 pm)Cobalt271 The 308 had its investment a few years back with the refurbished DB300s so can't see that happening. I also highly doubt Arriva would purchase the E400MMC Scania since it doesn't operate the type anywhere in the UK currently & is considerably more expensive than the integral product.That was due to newer Volvo B5LHs being swapped with them and they had no choice.
(27 Oct 2020, 6:54 pm)Cobalt271 7553 has much improved in recent weeks, as has 55 hence it being allocated express work again. All the E400s bar the ex Yorkshire examples at Ashington are starting to become tired now and are in need of relocating to quieter, less demanding depots.Good to hear 7553 has improved, was glacial along the A1 both times I had it in the summer. 7554/6 have been brilliant each time I've had them, though again recently I'm led to believe they've both had issues.
(27 Oct 2020, 6:54 pm)Cobalt271 7553 has much improved in recent weeks, as has 55 hence it being allocated express work again. All the E400s bar the ex Yorkshire examples at Ashington are starting to become tired now and are in need of relocating to quieter, less demanding depots.Good to hear 7553 has improved, was glacial along the A1 both times I had it in the summer. 7554/6 have been brilliant each time I've had them, though again recently I'm led to believe they've both had issues.
(27 Oct 2020, 8:13 pm)mb134 Good to hear 7553 has improved, was glacial along the A1 both times I had it in the summer. 7554/6 have been brilliant each time I've had them, though again recently I'm led to believe they've both had issues.Would Arriva perhaps consider ZF for the gearbox on any future MMCs now that they come with stop start and qualify as low emissions buses (as per GNE's XLines examples)?
Really the X15/8 need new MMCs. The 09 plates are shot, particularly 7514/5, and the 57 plates are virtually end of life at this point and just need to be put onto the 35 for the next few years until they die. The 64 plates don't seem too bad, but again they've pretty much all been used flat out for the best part of 6 years on the X18 and probably could do with being pushed over to the X20 or something even less demanding like you say. Then the less said about the Scanias the better, the X14 would benefit with literally anything else on there.
(27 Oct 2020, 8:13 pm)mb134 Good to hear 7553 has improved, was glacial along the A1 both times I had it in the summer. 7554/6 have been brilliant each time I've had them, though again recently I'm led to believe they've both had issues.Would Arriva perhaps consider ZF for the gearbox on any future MMCs now that they come with stop start and qualify as low emissions buses (as per GNE's XLines examples)?
Really the X15/8 need new MMCs. The 09 plates are shot, particularly 7514/5, and the 57 plates are virtually end of life at this point and just need to be put onto the 35 for the next few years until they die. The 64 plates don't seem too bad, but again they've pretty much all been used flat out for the best part of 6 years on the X18 and probably could do with being pushed over to the X20 or something even less demanding like you say. Then the less said about the Scanias the better, the X14 would benefit with literally anything else on there.
(27 Oct 2020, 8:13 pm)mb134 Good to hear 7553 has improved, was glacial along the A1 both times I had it in the summer. 7554/6 have been brilliant each time I've had them, though again recently I'm led to believe they've both had issues.
Really the X15/8 need new MMCs. The 09 plates are shot, particularly 7514/5, and the 57 plates are virtually end of life at this point and just need to be put onto the 35 for the next few years until they die. The 64 plates don't seem too bad, but again they've pretty much all been used flat out for the best part of 6 years on the X18 and probably could do with being pushed over to the X20 or something even less demanding like you say. Then the less said about the Scanias the better, the X14 would benefit with literally anything else on there.
(27 Oct 2020, 8:13 pm)mb134 Good to hear 7553 has improved, was glacial along the A1 both times I had it in the summer. 7554/6 have been brilliant each time I've had them, though again recently I'm led to believe they've both had issues.
Really the X15/8 need new MMCs. The 09 plates are shot, particularly 7514/5, and the 57 plates are virtually end of life at this point and just need to be put onto the 35 for the next few years until they die. The 64 plates don't seem too bad, but again they've pretty much all been used flat out for the best part of 6 years on the X18 and probably could do with being pushed over to the X20 or something even less demanding like you say. Then the less said about the Scanias the better, the X14 would benefit with literally anything else on there.
