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GNE6312



1,091
23 Sep 2021, 8:14 pm #61
(23 Sep 2021, 7:30 pm)Driver9*** All Blyth non 308 branded Geminis are being done like this.
Even 7601-08 which are quick links to Newcastle branded?
GNE6312
23 Sep 2021, 8:14 pm #61

(23 Sep 2021, 7:30 pm)Driver9*** All Blyth non 308 branded Geminis are being done like this.
Even 7601-08 which are quick links to Newcastle branded?

Train8261



1,016
23 Sep 2021, 8:14 pm #62
(23 Sep 2021, 7:30 pm)Driver9*** All Blyth non 308 branded Geminis are being done like this.
Any idea why. I heard a rumours a while ago that max brand was going
Train8261
23 Sep 2021, 8:14 pm #62

(23 Sep 2021, 7:30 pm)Driver9*** All Blyth non 308 branded Geminis are being done like this.
Any idea why. I heard a rumours a while ago that max brand was going

mb134



4,144
23 Sep 2021, 8:19 pm #63
(23 Sep 2021, 8:14 pm)Train8261 Any idea why. I heard a rumours a while ago that max brand was going

Max hasn't existed since the rebrand a few years ago.
mb134
23 Sep 2021, 8:19 pm #63

(23 Sep 2021, 8:14 pm)Train8261 Any idea why. I heard a rumours a while ago that max brand was going

Max hasn't existed since the rebrand a few years ago.

23 Sep 2021, 9:33 pm #64
(23 Sep 2021, 8:14 pm)GNE6312 Even 7601-08 which are quick links to Newcastle branded?
I believe so as they have Max branding also.
Driver9***
23 Sep 2021, 9:33 pm #64

(23 Sep 2021, 8:14 pm)GNE6312 Even 7601-08 which are quick links to Newcastle branded?
I believe so as they have Max branding also.

23 Sep 2021, 10:03 pm #65
(23 Sep 2021, 8:14 pm)Train8261 Any idea why. I heard a rumours a while ago that max brand was going

Max was abandoned four years ago - the 306/308 (and subsequently the Yorkshire 444) were the last routes to get the brand whilst the NE were being defiant against the new liveries.
omnicity4659
23 Sep 2021, 10:03 pm #65

(23 Sep 2021, 8:14 pm)Train8261 Any idea why. I heard a rumours a while ago that max brand was going

Max was abandoned four years ago - the 306/308 (and subsequently the Yorkshire 444) were the last routes to get the brand whilst the NE were being defiant against the new liveries.

GNE6312



1,091
24 Sep 2021, 7:44 pm #66
(23 Sep 2021, 4:18 pm)Train8261 7622 has been debrand of Max and now shows Arriva logo in place of the Max logo

https://flic.kr/p/2mtCefz (photo by me today)
7625 also now been debranded just like 7622.
The 2 frequnta solos at Ashington (2843/49) have also been debranded with frequenta logos replaced by the new arriva logo. wonder If Blyth will do the same with 1429/32 when they're at it with the DB300s
GNE6312
24 Sep 2021, 7:44 pm #66

(23 Sep 2021, 4:18 pm)Train8261 7622 has been debrand of Max and now shows Arriva logo in place of the Max logo

https://flic.kr/p/2mtCefz (photo by me today)
7625 also now been debranded just like 7622.
The 2 frequnta solos at Ashington (2843/49) have also been debranded with frequenta logos replaced by the new arriva logo. wonder If Blyth will do the same with 1429/32 when they're at it with the DB300s

tyresmoke



5,318
24 Sep 2021, 8:25 pm #67
Stockton’s 1405 & 1448 I am told have lost their branding too. Expect many more to follow. Darlington’s gas buses could well be just the start of a much needed project


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tyresmoke
24 Sep 2021, 8:25 pm #67

Stockton’s 1405 & 1448 I am told have lost their branding too. Expect many more to follow. Darlington’s gas buses could well be just the start of a much needed project


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L469 YVK



3,549
25 Sep 2021, 12:17 am #68
Will Arriva likely see fleet investment or a major network overhaul next year?
L469 YVK
25 Sep 2021, 12:17 am #68

Will Arriva likely see fleet investment or a major network overhaul next year?

25 Sep 2021, 6:38 am #69
(25 Sep 2021, 12:17 am)L469 YVK Will Arriva likely see fleet investment or a major network overhaul next year?
Anyone’s guess other than the upper management or other individuals from within the Business. It must be noted that desperate the anti-Arriva which in fairness depending on topic and circumstances can be justified to an extent, there is the possibility of investment. I believe that Merseyside is due or is getting new vehicles (34) not including the hydrogen vehicles in the PTE bid.
NewcastleOne
25 Sep 2021, 6:38 am #69

(25 Sep 2021, 12:17 am)L469 YVK Will Arriva likely see fleet investment or a major network overhaul next year?
Anyone’s guess other than the upper management or other individuals from within the Business. It must be noted that desperate the anti-Arriva which in fairness depending on topic and circumstances can be justified to an extent, there is the possibility of investment. I believe that Merseyside is due or is getting new vehicles (34) not including the hydrogen vehicles in the PTE bid.

L469 YVK



3,549
26 Sep 2021, 8:03 pm #70
(25 Sep 2021, 6:38 am)NewcastleOne Anyone’s guess other than the upper management or other individuals from within the Business. It must be noted that desperate the anti-Arriva which in fairness depending on topic and circumstances can be justified to an extent, there is the possibility of investment. I believe that Merseyside is due or is getting new vehicles (34) not including the hydrogen vehicles in the PTE bid.
If they invested in any deckers for the NE, the most sensible option would be including primary casacdes:

- 15x ADL E400MMC 10.9 S/S & ZF - X21/X22
* 7541-50 - Blyth - 308
* 7551 - Blyth - Spare
* 7552 - Ashington - Spare

- 6x Wright StreetDeck OM936 - X93/X94
* 7401-04 - Ashington - X20
* 7405/06 - NE Float Spares

- 11x Wright StreetDeck OM936 - X15/X18 (incl 1x spare)
L469 YVK
26 Sep 2021, 8:03 pm #70

(25 Sep 2021, 6:38 am)NewcastleOne Anyone’s guess other than the upper management or other individuals from within the Business. It must be noted that desperate the anti-Arriva which in fairness depending on topic and circumstances can be justified to an extent, there is the possibility of investment. I believe that Merseyside is due or is getting new vehicles (34) not including the hydrogen vehicles in the PTE bid.
If they invested in any deckers for the NE, the most sensible option would be including primary casacdes:

- 15x ADL E400MMC 10.9 S/S & ZF - X21/X22
* 7541-50 - Blyth - 308
* 7551 - Blyth - Spare
* 7552 - Ashington - Spare

- 6x Wright StreetDeck OM936 - X93/X94
* 7401-04 - Ashington - X20
* 7405/06 - NE Float Spares

- 11x Wright StreetDeck OM936 - X15/X18 (incl 1x spare)

Train8261



1,016
26 Sep 2021, 8:50 pm #71
Arriva won't invest up here. Everything new goes to Durham/Redcar or Stockton.

Whatever it replaced cone to Blyth or Jesmond or Ashington
Train8261
26 Sep 2021, 8:50 pm #71

Arriva won't invest up here. Everything new goes to Durham/Redcar or Stockton.

Whatever it replaced cone to Blyth or Jesmond or Ashington

26 Sep 2021, 9:14 pm #72
(26 Sep 2021, 8:50 pm)Train8261 Arriva won't invest up here. Everything new goes to Durham/Redcar or Stockton.

Whatever it replaced cone to Blyth or Jesmond or Ashington
Got to disagree there. Northumbria first is a smaller operation compared to County Durham and Teesside. Additionally since 2014 there has been 7 New E400s for X21/22, 5 E400s for X18, 8(?) Streetlites for 306 (which moved to 52/54), 4(?) Streetlites for 35/35a (at the time), 12 MMC 400s for X21/22. While that is smaller than what’s been seen South of Tyne it would be wrong not to mention that there has been some Investment in smaller operation. (Note this does not include significant refurbishments of then before mid life & mid life vehicles which Northumbria has seen a larger amount of.)
NewcastleOne
26 Sep 2021, 9:14 pm #72

(26 Sep 2021, 8:50 pm)Train8261 Arriva won't invest up here. Everything new goes to Durham/Redcar or Stockton.

Whatever it replaced cone to Blyth or Jesmond or Ashington
Got to disagree there. Northumbria first is a smaller operation compared to County Durham and Teesside. Additionally since 2014 there has been 7 New E400s for X21/22, 5 E400s for X18, 8(?) Streetlites for 306 (which moved to 52/54), 4(?) Streetlites for 35/35a (at the time), 12 MMC 400s for X21/22. While that is smaller than what’s been seen South of Tyne it would be wrong not to mention that there has been some Investment in smaller operation. (Note this does not include significant refurbishments of then before mid life & mid life vehicles which Northumbria has seen a larger amount of.)

Storx



4,566
26 Sep 2021, 9:26 pm #73
(26 Sep 2021, 8:50 pm)Train8261 Arriva won't invest up here. Everything new goes to Durham/Redcar or Stockton.

Whatever it replaced cone to Blyth or Jesmond or Ashington

There's nothing wrong with the fleets at Blyth or Jesmond. Ashington needs something better for the X15/X18 but that's about it. Durham have the worst fleet in the North East with numerous 55 plate B7's in frontline service and Darlington is plagued with the 05 plate Omnicity's which if anything are the vehicles which need replacing asap.
Storx
26 Sep 2021, 9:26 pm #73

(26 Sep 2021, 8:50 pm)Train8261 Arriva won't invest up here. Everything new goes to Durham/Redcar or Stockton.

Whatever it replaced cone to Blyth or Jesmond or Ashington

There's nothing wrong with the fleets at Blyth or Jesmond. Ashington needs something better for the X15/X18 but that's about it. Durham have the worst fleet in the North East with numerous 55 plate B7's in frontline service and Darlington is plagued with the 05 plate Omnicity's which if anything are the vehicles which need replacing asap.

L469 YVK



3,549
26 Sep 2021, 9:27 pm #74
(26 Sep 2021, 8:50 pm)Train8261 Arriva won't invest up here. Everything new goes to Durham/Redcar or Stockton.

Whatever it replaced cone to Blyth or Jesmond or Ashington
It's deckers that are badly needed for Northumbria. Only real quality deckers down Durham & Tees are 7534-40.

- New vehicles on the X15, X18, X21, X22 would release 14x 2014 & 2015 E400 Classics. 11x of these (+7522) could then be used on the 43/44/45 with 3x of the best allocated on the X14. The older E400 Classics could then start to displace Volvo B7TLs and move into a more backseat role.

- New vehicles on the X21, X22 would release 12x E400MMCs. 10x of these would then make up the PVR for the 308. The other 2x, 1x to Blyth as spare with the other staying at Ashington as spare.

- Newer vehicles on the 308 would then release 10x DB300 Gemini 2s. 8x of these could then either be used on the 306 or back fill other older deckers.

- New vehicles on the X93/X94 would release 6x B9TLs. 4x of these would go on the X20 and along with the X14, releasing more older E400 classics (2009) into a backseat role. The other 2x would then act as float spares.
L469 YVK
26 Sep 2021, 9:27 pm #74

(26 Sep 2021, 8:50 pm)Train8261 Arriva won't invest up here. Everything new goes to Durham/Redcar or Stockton.

Whatever it replaced cone to Blyth or Jesmond or Ashington
It's deckers that are badly needed for Northumbria. Only real quality deckers down Durham & Tees are 7534-40.

- New vehicles on the X15, X18, X21, X22 would release 14x 2014 & 2015 E400 Classics. 11x of these (+7522) could then be used on the 43/44/45 with 3x of the best allocated on the X14. The older E400 Classics could then start to displace Volvo B7TLs and move into a more backseat role.

- New vehicles on the X21, X22 would release 12x E400MMCs. 10x of these would then make up the PVR for the 308. The other 2x, 1x to Blyth as spare with the other staying at Ashington as spare.

- Newer vehicles on the 308 would then release 10x DB300 Gemini 2s. 8x of these could then either be used on the 306 or back fill other older deckers.

- New vehicles on the X93/X94 would release 6x B9TLs. 4x of these would go on the X20 and along with the X14, releasing more older E400 classics (2009) into a backseat role. The other 2x would then act as float spares.

Kuyoyo



6,853
28 Sep 2021, 1:41 pm #75
South of the Tyne debranding update

So far treated are:
Stockton’s 1404/5 both have lost their X66/X67 branding (1404 retains a MAX logo in the front windscreen)
Stockton’s 1448 has lost its 8 branding
Redcar’s 1430 has lost its 63 branding
Stockton’s Streetlites - bar the already debranded 1550/1 and an-as-yet-to-be-done 1557 - have lost their 5/5A route branding but retain Sapphire logos

Meanwhile, having never had any fleetnames in its 11 years in service - Stockton’s 1446 has now gained the current fleetnames
Kuyoyo
28 Sep 2021, 1:41 pm #75

South of the Tyne debranding update

So far treated are:
Stockton’s 1404/5 both have lost their X66/X67 branding (1404 retains a MAX logo in the front windscreen)
Stockton’s 1448 has lost its 8 branding
Redcar’s 1430 has lost its 63 branding
Stockton’s Streetlites - bar the already debranded 1550/1 and an-as-yet-to-be-done 1557 - have lost their 5/5A route branding but retain Sapphire logos

Meanwhile, having never had any fleetnames in its 11 years in service - Stockton’s 1446 has now gained the current fleetnames

Jimmi



10,969
28 Sep 2021, 3:08 pm #76
I highly doubt Northumbria will get much new stock in the next few years considering they've just paid for a significant chunk of them to be made Euro 6 and the only Euro 6 requirement South of the Tyne is the X12 which have already been converted.

The fleet isn't even that old!!! Why all of a sudden do we feel they all have to be replaced every few years because of a superiority complex towards certain routes?! the average life span of a decker is around 15 years IIRC so doubt much will be binned off beyond the 55 plate B7TLs at Belmont before the end of 2024 (minus Lowlanders as some have already been scrapped) and even then probs be a bit further down the line.

The North East fleets of most companies is still better than some for age, look at some of the old crocs First is running around in parts of the UK compared to us, hell look at some of the Arriva fleets, North East spotters bemoan us having 05/55/56 plate MPDs running around until recently yet some divisions still have some in active daily service hitting 20 year old!!!
Jimmi
28 Sep 2021, 3:08 pm #76

I highly doubt Northumbria will get much new stock in the next few years considering they've just paid for a significant chunk of them to be made Euro 6 and the only Euro 6 requirement South of the Tyne is the X12 which have already been converted.

The fleet isn't even that old!!! Why all of a sudden do we feel they all have to be replaced every few years because of a superiority complex towards certain routes?! the average life span of a decker is around 15 years IIRC so doubt much will be binned off beyond the 55 plate B7TLs at Belmont before the end of 2024 (minus Lowlanders as some have already been scrapped) and even then probs be a bit further down the line.

The North East fleets of most companies is still better than some for age, look at some of the old crocs First is running around in parts of the UK compared to us, hell look at some of the Arriva fleets, North East spotters bemoan us having 05/55/56 plate MPDs running around until recently yet some divisions still have some in active daily service hitting 20 year old!!!

ne14ne1



1,514
28 Sep 2021, 3:19 pm #77
(23 Sep 2021, 4:18 pm)Train8261 7622 has been debrand of Max and now shows Arriva logo in place of the Max logo

https://flic.kr/p/2mtCefz (photo by me today)

Jesus Arriva, at least put a square of vinyl on to cover up the previous logos. What a mess.
ne14ne1
28 Sep 2021, 3:19 pm #77

(23 Sep 2021, 4:18 pm)Train8261 7622 has been debrand of Max and now shows Arriva logo in place of the Max logo

https://flic.kr/p/2mtCefz (photo by me today)

Jesus Arriva, at least put a square of vinyl on to cover up the previous logos. What a mess.

28 Sep 2021, 3:58 pm #78
(28 Sep 2021, 3:19 pm)ne14ne1 Jesus Arriva, at least put a square of vinyl on to cover up the previous logos. What a mess.

It'll fade away after a while, unfortunately it's quite difficult to get a sticker and paint colour match meaning it would look just as bad.
omnicity4659
28 Sep 2021, 3:58 pm #78

(28 Sep 2021, 3:19 pm)ne14ne1 Jesus Arriva, at least put a square of vinyl on to cover up the previous logos. What a mess.

It'll fade away after a while, unfortunately it's quite difficult to get a sticker and paint colour match meaning it would look just as bad.

ne14ne1



1,514
28 Sep 2021, 4:13 pm #79
(28 Sep 2021, 3:58 pm)omnicity4659 It'll fade away after a while, unfortunately it's quite difficult to get a sticker and paint colour match meaning it would look just as bad.

The colour mightn’t match but it wouldn’t look AS bad.
ne14ne1
28 Sep 2021, 4:13 pm #79

(28 Sep 2021, 3:58 pm)omnicity4659 It'll fade away after a while, unfortunately it's quite difficult to get a sticker and paint colour match meaning it would look just as bad.

The colour mightn’t match but it wouldn’t look AS bad.

Ryland



461
28 Sep 2021, 6:56 pm #80
(28 Sep 2021, 1:41 pm)Kuyoyo South of the Tyne debranding update

So far treated are:
Stockton’s 1404/5 both have lost their X66/X67 branding (1404 retains a MAX logo in the front windscreen)
Stockton’s 1448 has lost its 8 branding
Redcar’s 1430 has lost its 63 branding
Stockton’s Streetlites - bar the already debranded 1550/1 and an-as-yet-to-be-done 1557 - have lost their 5/5A route branding but retain Sapphire logos

Meanwhile, having never had any fleetnames in its 11 years in service - Stockton’s 1446 has now gained the current fleetnames
Are they getting rebranded?  What's the reason behind the debranding
Ryland
28 Sep 2021, 6:56 pm #80

(28 Sep 2021, 1:41 pm)Kuyoyo South of the Tyne debranding update

So far treated are:
Stockton’s 1404/5 both have lost their X66/X67 branding (1404 retains a MAX logo in the front windscreen)
Stockton’s 1448 has lost its 8 branding
Redcar’s 1430 has lost its 63 branding
Stockton’s Streetlites - bar the already debranded 1550/1 and an-as-yet-to-be-done 1557 - have lost their 5/5A route branding but retain Sapphire logos

Meanwhile, having never had any fleetnames in its 11 years in service - Stockton’s 1446 has now gained the current fleetnames
Are they getting rebranded?  What's the reason behind the debranding

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