ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched
ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched
(27 Mar 2022, 12:13 pm)busmanT Looking at the successful bids they all seem to be based around the conversion of a significant part of a single town network to zero emission buses - Blackpool, Oxford, Rotherham, Bradford, Harrogate etc. - whereas the North East bid (I don't think that governance is an issue is this case) was about bits converted to electric here, there and almost everywhere.As with all things with transport in the NE there was no clear integration - upgrade of routes that frankly could probably pay for themselves over time.
Previous funding has enabled Go North East to get the 9 for 53/54 and the next 9 for ??? (Q3 perhaps, as now it's been butchered it only needs 8 buses).
(27 Mar 2022, 12:13 pm)busmanT Looking at the successful bids they all seem to be based around the conversion of a significant part of a single town network to zero emission buses - Blackpool, Oxford, Rotherham, Bradford, Harrogate etc. - whereas the North East bid (I don't think that governance is an issue is this case) was about bits converted to electric here, there and almost everywhere.As with all things with transport in the NE there was no clear integration - upgrade of routes that frankly could probably pay for themselves over time.
Previous funding has enabled Go North East to get the 9 for 53/54 and the next 9 for ??? (Q3 perhaps, as now it's been butchered it only needs 8 buses).
(27 Mar 2022, 12:13 pm)busmanT Looking at the successful bids they all seem to be based around the conversion of a significant part of a single town network to zero emission buses - Blackpool, Oxford, Rotherham, Bradford, Harrogate etc. - whereas the North East bid (I don't think that governance is an issue is this case) was about bits converted to electric here, there and almost everywhere.
Previous funding has enabled Go North East to get the 9 for 53/54 and the next 9 for ??? (Q3 perhaps, as now it's been butchered it only needs 8 buses).
(27 Mar 2022, 12:13 pm)busmanT Looking at the successful bids they all seem to be based around the conversion of a significant part of a single town network to zero emission buses - Blackpool, Oxford, Rotherham, Bradford, Harrogate etc. - whereas the North East bid (I don't think that governance is an issue is this case) was about bits converted to electric here, there and almost everywhere.
Previous funding has enabled Go North East to get the 9 for 53/54 and the next 9 for ??? (Q3 perhaps, as now it's been butchered it only needs 8 buses).
(27 Mar 2022, 6:26 pm)Storx I'm not one for bringing politics into but the fact it was GNE getting all the money could have an impact aswell with what's going on with South Eastern Trains.
I don't believe they've won anything solo from this (there's a few split ones like Oxford).
(27 Mar 2022, 6:26 pm)Storx I'm not one for bringing politics into but the fact it was GNE getting all the money could have an impact aswell with what's going on with South Eastern Trains.
I don't believe they've won anything solo from this (there's a few split ones like Oxford).
(27 Mar 2022, 6:26 pm)Storx I'm not one for bringing politics into but the fact it was GNE getting all the money could have an impact aswell with what's going on with South Eastern Trains.
I don't believe they've won anything solo from this (there's a few split ones like Oxford).
(27 Mar 2022, 6:26 pm)Storx I'm not one for bringing politics into but the fact it was GNE getting all the money could have an impact aswell with what's going on with South Eastern Trains.
I don't believe they've won anything solo from this (there's a few split ones like Oxford).
(27 Mar 2022, 6:29 pm)citaro5284 I was under the impression that Arriva and Stagecoach put a bid in for The Teesside area as well?
Is there like a full list of bids put in does anyone know.
(27 Mar 2022, 6:29 pm)citaro5284 I was under the impression that Arriva and Stagecoach put a bid in for The Teesside area as well?
Is there like a full list of bids put in does anyone know.
(27 Mar 2022, 6:29 pm)citaro5284 I was under the impression that Arriva and Stagecoach put a bid in for The Teesside area as well?
Is there like a full list of bids put in does anyone know.
(27 Mar 2022, 6:29 pm)citaro5284 I was under the impression that Arriva and Stagecoach put a bid in for The Teesside area as well?
Is there like a full list of bids put in does anyone know.
(27 Mar 2022, 6:44 pm)Dan I think you'd be way off the mark. I don't think anyone is as obsessed with Southeastern as this forum.
The penalty has been paid, there'll be some reputational damage but everyone in the main is moving on. The stock market certainly doesn't seem to care too much, further rail contracts have been awarded...
(27 Mar 2022, 6:57 pm)mb134 I'd assume that bid would have covered a significant proportion of the Teesside area too, much like many of the other bids which have been accepted - so to me, if anything, that would be the more surprising rejection.
(27 Mar 2022, 6:44 pm)Dan I think you'd be way off the mark. I don't think anyone is as obsessed with Southeastern as this forum.
The penalty has been paid, there'll be some reputational damage but everyone in the main is moving on. The stock market certainly doesn't seem to care too much, further rail contracts have been awarded...
(27 Mar 2022, 6:57 pm)mb134 I'd assume that bid would have covered a significant proportion of the Teesside area too, much like many of the other bids which have been accepted - so to me, if anything, that would be the more surprising rejection.
(27 Mar 2022, 7:33 pm)Storx I'm not sure about that the RMT are on GoAhead like a hawk lately, seen they're having a go at GBR over the renewal of the GTR contract. Then again they're always moaning though to be fair.
https://teesvalley-ca.gov.uk/wp-content/...posal-.pdf - That's the Tees Valley one but it's all been redacted so you can't tell what's going on. From the map it appears it's the following routes though.
The 2 (Darlington), 7 (Darlington), X66/X67, 36, 8 (Middlesbrough), 9 (Middlesbrough), 17 (Middlesbrough), 12 (Middlesbrough), X3/X3A - Partially (Redcar), 63 (Redcar)
I was surprised they didn't get that one mind tbf.
(27 Mar 2022, 7:33 pm)Storx I'm not sure about that the RMT are on GoAhead like a hawk lately, seen they're having a go at GBR over the renewal of the GTR contract. Then again they're always moaning though to be fair.
https://teesvalley-ca.gov.uk/wp-content/...posal-.pdf - That's the Tees Valley one but it's all been redacted so you can't tell what's going on. From the map it appears it's the following routes though.
The 2 (Darlington), 7 (Darlington), X66/X67, 36, 8 (Middlesbrough), 9 (Middlesbrough), 17 (Middlesbrough), 12 (Middlesbrough), X3/X3A - Partially (Redcar), 63 (Redcar)
I was surprised they didn't get that one mind tbf.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teess...mantis_rec&int_medium=web&int_campaign=more_like_this
More on the Tees Valley application.
