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Michael



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05 Apr 2021, 5:20 pm #13
(05 Apr 2021, 4:23 pm)Dan The infrastructure is one of the largest costs associated with the procurement of electric buses.

To get more 'bang for your buck', it may be that because Go North East already have the infrastructure (and are set up to accommodate up to 30 electric buses), that they could stand a better chance. In addition to the current nine, Go North East already have funding for a further nine buses, so this would take them to 18 of the 30 capacity they currently have for electric buses at Riverside.

A route like Go North East's Q3 has a PVR of 9, so a spare would be ordered, and this would take them to a capacity of 28/30 for electric buses at Riverside. It would also tick your box for Gosforth High Street.

I cannot see Arriva North East being particularly interested in this funding - don't forget that this funding only covers 75% of the difference between a diesel bus and an electric bus: so if a diesel single-deck bus is £160k, and an electric bus is closer to the £300k mark, the company would still be investing c.£200k per bus themselves. We're all aware of the reasons for the alleged lack of investment at Arriva, and I cannot see this funding changing things.

I do however agree with Adrian that it would be great for the Durham Park & Ride tender, which is up for renewal next year, to stipulate the use of electric buses (regardless of whether this funding could be used for that or not).

When will we see GNE use this funding?, is there a limit on how long GNE can hold on to the funding?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Apr 2021, 5:20 pm #13

(05 Apr 2021, 4:23 pm)Dan The infrastructure is one of the largest costs associated with the procurement of electric buses.

To get more 'bang for your buck', it may be that because Go North East already have the infrastructure (and are set up to accommodate up to 30 electric buses), that they could stand a better chance. In addition to the current nine, Go North East already have funding for a further nine buses, so this would take them to 18 of the 30 capacity they currently have for electric buses at Riverside.

A route like Go North East's Q3 has a PVR of 9, so a spare would be ordered, and this would take them to a capacity of 28/30 for electric buses at Riverside. It would also tick your box for Gosforth High Street.

I cannot see Arriva North East being particularly interested in this funding - don't forget that this funding only covers 75% of the difference between a diesel bus and an electric bus: so if a diesel single-deck bus is £160k, and an electric bus is closer to the £300k mark, the company would still be investing c.£200k per bus themselves. We're all aware of the reasons for the alleged lack of investment at Arriva, and I cannot see this funding changing things.

I do however agree with Adrian that it would be great for the Durham Park & Ride tender, which is up for renewal next year, to stipulate the use of electric buses (regardless of whether this funding could be used for that or not).

When will we see GNE use this funding?, is there a limit on how long GNE can hold on to the funding?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

 
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ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Malarkey - 04 Apr 2021, 3:27 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Michael - 04 Apr 2021, 5:00 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by streetdeckfan - 04 Apr 2021, 5:55 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by citaro5284 - 04 Apr 2021, 5:59 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by busmanT - 05 Apr 2021, 9:54 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Michael - 05 Apr 2021, 4:09 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Adrian - 05 Apr 2021, 3:21 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Storx - 05 Apr 2021, 4:13 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Dan - 05 Apr 2021, 4:23 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Storx - 05 Apr 2021, 4:51 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Michael - 05 Apr 2021, 5:20 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Adrian - 05 Apr 2021, 4:44 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by peter - 05 Apr 2021, 6:54 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by streetdeckfan - 06 Apr 2021, 1:22 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by busmanT - 05 Apr 2021, 6:25 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by cainebj - 05 Apr 2021, 5:02 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by MetrolineGA1511 - 10 Apr 2021, 6:18 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Ianthegoon - 10 Apr 2021, 8:08 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Michael - 29 Oct 2021, 6:35 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Malarkey - 29 Oct 2021, 8:56 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Keeiajs - 29 Oct 2021, 9:18 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Keeiajs - 29 Oct 2021, 7:35 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Michael - 29 Oct 2021, 7:39 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Adrian - 31 Oct 2021, 12:33 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Storx - 31 Oct 2021, 7:32 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by 54APhotography - 31 Oct 2021, 7:45 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by streetdeckfan - 31 Oct 2021, 11:31 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Storx - 31 Oct 2021, 12:29 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Andreos1 - 31 Oct 2021, 1:09 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Adrian - 31 Oct 2021, 6:33 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by L469 YVK - 31 Oct 2021, 6:59 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Michael - 31 Oct 2021, 9:18 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by L469 YVK - 31 Oct 2021, 9:51 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Malarkey - 31 Oct 2021, 11:13 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Michael - 01 Nov 2021, 12:16 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by busmanT - 01 Nov 2021, 6:38 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Michael - 01 Nov 2021, 7:08 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Ambassador - 01 Nov 2021, 12:42 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by streetdeckfan - 31 Oct 2021, 11:54 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by cainebj - 02 Nov 2021, 7:13 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Adrian - 01 Nov 2021, 10:18 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Jimmi - 01 Nov 2021, 5:07 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by 54APhotography - 01 Nov 2021, 5:12 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Storx - 01 Nov 2021, 5:44 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Andreos1 - 01 Nov 2021, 6:09 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by L469 YVK - 01 Nov 2021, 6:57 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by streetdeckfan - 01 Nov 2021, 6:59 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by L469 YVK - 01 Nov 2021, 7:04 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Storx - 01 Nov 2021, 9:04 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by L469 YVK - 01 Nov 2021, 10:20 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by streetdeckfan - 02 Nov 2021, 9:32 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Wybus - 03 Nov 2021, 8:22 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Storx - 03 Nov 2021, 10:10 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by L469 YVK - 04 Nov 2021, 11:36 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Jimmi - 05 Nov 2021, 12:48 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by L469 YVK - 05 Nov 2021, 1:10 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by L469 YVK - 07 Nov 2021, 9:58 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Keeiajs - 08 Nov 2021, 9:07 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Adrian - 08 Nov 2021, 9:24 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by L469 YVK - 08 Nov 2021, 11:13 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Adrian - 08 Nov 2021, 12:36 pm
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RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by 54APhotography - 06 Dec 2021, 4:30 pm
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RE: Ne14ne1 - by Andreos1 - 06 Dec 2021, 5:38 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Adrian - 12 Jan 2022, 11:33 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Storx - 13 Jan 2022, 10:01 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Michael - 13 Jan 2022, 10:08 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by streetdeckfan - 13 Jan 2022, 10:22 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by busmanT - 13 Jan 2022, 12:51 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by BusLoverMum - 13 Jan 2022, 6:50 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by peter - 13 Jan 2022, 8:00 pm
ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by cbma06 - 13 Jan 2022, 10:46 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Michael - 13 Jan 2022, 11:07 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Adrian - 13 Jan 2022, 11:02 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Storx - 14 Jan 2022, 8:24 am
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RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Ambassador - 14 Jan 2022, 12:13 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Michael - 27 Feb 2022, 10:19 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Adrian - 27 Feb 2022, 11:41 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by busmanT - 26 Mar 2022, 6:45 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by L469 YVK - 26 Mar 2022, 8:49 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Michael - 26 Mar 2022, 9:15 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by User2613 - 26 Mar 2022, 7:40 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Storx - 26 Mar 2022, 9:10 am
ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Adrian - 26 Mar 2022, 9:16 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by mb134 - 27 Mar 2022, 11:46 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Unber43 - 26 Mar 2022, 11:05 am
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Andreos1 - 26 Mar 2022, 12:27 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by L469 YVK - 26 Mar 2022, 1:18 pm
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RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by DeltaMan - 26 Mar 2022, 2:30 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by busmanT - 27 Mar 2022, 12:13 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Ambassador - 27 Mar 2022, 5:47 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Storx - 27 Mar 2022, 6:26 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by citaro5284 - 27 Mar 2022, 6:29 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by mb134 - 27 Mar 2022, 6:57 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Adrian - 27 Mar 2022, 7:11 pm
RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Dan - 27 Mar 2022, 6:44 pm
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RE: ZEBRA zero-emission buses scheme launched - by Andreos1 - 21 Apr 2022, 11:51 am
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