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Ryland



453
17 Sep 2021, 5:56 am #21
Which omicity have been withdrawn
4644
4649
4663

Any others
Ryland
17 Sep 2021, 5:56 am #21

Which omicity have been withdrawn
4644
4649
4663

Any others

mb134



4,131
17 Sep 2021, 6:08 am #22
(17 Sep 2021, 5:56 am)Ryland Which omicity have been withdrawn
4644
4649
4663

Any others

4659 too.
mb134
17 Sep 2021, 6:08 am #22

(17 Sep 2021, 5:56 am)Ryland Which omicity have been withdrawn
4644
4649
4663

Any others

4659 too.

Train8261



1,016
17 Sep 2021, 9:02 am #23
Have the Cross Pennine ones been withdrawn
Train8261
17 Sep 2021, 9:02 am #23

Have the Cross Pennine ones been withdrawn

peter



993
17 Sep 2021, 10:51 am #24
(17 Sep 2021, 5:56 am)Ryland Which omicity have been withdrawn
4644
4649
4663

Any others

(17 Sep 2021, 6:08 am)mb134 4659 too.

According to BusTimes 4658 as well.

(17 Sep 2021, 9:02 am)Train8261 Have the Cross Pennine ones been withdrawn

None have tracked on BusTimes since the end of July so highly plausible 

I suppose with some of the service changes made which have yet to be, and may not be, reverted, Arriva have the opportunity to dispose of these old Omnicities. At Jesmond the X16 withdrawal frees up 2 buses so Cross Pennine's can be withdrawn. At Darlington, the X26/27 are now half hourly instead of 20 minutes which frees up 2 Omnicities.
peter
17 Sep 2021, 10:51 am #24

(17 Sep 2021, 5:56 am)Ryland Which omicity have been withdrawn
4644
4649
4663

Any others

(17 Sep 2021, 6:08 am)mb134 4659 too.

According to BusTimes 4658 as well.

(17 Sep 2021, 9:02 am)Train8261 Have the Cross Pennine ones been withdrawn

None have tracked on BusTimes since the end of July so highly plausible 

I suppose with some of the service changes made which have yet to be, and may not be, reverted, Arriva have the opportunity to dispose of these old Omnicities. At Jesmond the X16 withdrawal frees up 2 buses so Cross Pennine's can be withdrawn. At Darlington, the X26/27 are now half hourly instead of 20 minutes which frees up 2 Omnicities.

Train8261



1,016
17 Sep 2021, 11:33 am #25
Is there a reason there being withdrawn
Train8261
17 Sep 2021, 11:33 am #25

Is there a reason there being withdrawn

Dan

Site Administrator

18,099
17 Sep 2021, 11:42 am #26
(17 Sep 2021, 11:33 am)Train8261 Is there a reason there being withdrawn

Because they're old, life-expired buses which are surplus to requirements?
Dan
17 Sep 2021, 11:42 am #26

(17 Sep 2021, 11:33 am)Train8261 Is there a reason there being withdrawn

Because they're old, life-expired buses which are surplus to requirements?

17 Sep 2021, 1:44 pm #27
^ and that's putting it nicely
omnicity4659
17 Sep 2021, 1:44 pm #27

^ and that's putting it nicely

V514DFT



2,224
17 Sep 2021, 6:47 pm #28
(17 Sep 2021, 11:33 am)Train8261 Is there a reason there being withdrawn
Basically,theyre knackered,theres only a few options for them
1) Sold to another operator
2) Scrapped
3) Maybe 1 or 2 retained and put into driver training role

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
17 Sep 2021, 6:47 pm #28

(17 Sep 2021, 11:33 am)Train8261 Is there a reason there being withdrawn
Basically,theyre knackered,theres only a few options for them
1) Sold to another operator
2) Scrapped
3) Maybe 1 or 2 retained and put into driver training role


Kind Regards
Tez

19 Sep 2021, 10:03 am #29
(17 Sep 2021, 6:47 pm)V514DFT Basically,theyre knackered,theres only a few options for them
1) Sold to another operator
2) Scrapped
3) Maybe 1 or 2 retained and put into driver training role

There's certain types of vehicle that, when put into a driver training role, basically impart the lesson, "Look how appalling these old buses are, aren't you grateful we've got some slightly newer, less knackered, ones?"
Ianthegoon
19 Sep 2021, 10:03 am #29

(17 Sep 2021, 6:47 pm)V514DFT Basically,theyre knackered,theres only a few options for them
1) Sold to another operator
2) Scrapped
3) Maybe 1 or 2 retained and put into driver training role

There's certain types of vehicle that, when put into a driver training role, basically impart the lesson, "Look how appalling these old buses are, aren't you grateful we've got some slightly newer, less knackered, ones?"

peter



993
19 Sep 2021, 11:12 am #30
(17 Sep 2021, 10:51 am)peter According to BusTimes 4658 as well.

None have tracked on BusTimes since the end of July so highly plausible 

Again this is just going off BusTimes but 4643 hasn't tracked since August 25th and 4652 hasn't tracked since August 14th respectively. Of course, if there's a lack of spare parts/delayed delivery some of these could end up being resurrected but given that they're life expired you'd hope if PVR's ever do re-increase Darlington that newer vehicles are sourced from elsewhere
peter
19 Sep 2021, 11:12 am #30

(17 Sep 2021, 10:51 am)peter According to BusTimes 4658 as well.

None have tracked on BusTimes since the end of July so highly plausible 

Again this is just going off BusTimes but 4643 hasn't tracked since August 25th and 4652 hasn't tracked since August 14th respectively. Of course, if there's a lack of spare parts/delayed delivery some of these could end up being resurrected but given that they're life expired you'd hope if PVR's ever do re-increase Darlington that newer vehicles are sourced from elsewhere

Andreos1



14,155
19 Sep 2021, 3:41 pm #31
(19 Sep 2021, 11:12 am)peter Again this is just going off BusTimes but 4643 hasn't tracked since August 25th and 4652 hasn't tracked since August 14th respectively. Of course, if there's a lack of spare parts/delayed delivery some of these could end up being resurrected but given that they're life expired you'd hope if PVR's ever do re-increase Darlington that newer vehicles are sourced from elsewhere

I'm surprised they haven't thought outside the box like GNE did and invested in some donor vehicles from elsewhere. Assuming the price works for them...
There's obviously an issue with parts somewhere and it's certainly not unique to one operator either.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
19 Sep 2021, 3:41 pm #31

(19 Sep 2021, 11:12 am)peter Again this is just going off BusTimes but 4643 hasn't tracked since August 25th and 4652 hasn't tracked since August 14th respectively. Of course, if there's a lack of spare parts/delayed delivery some of these could end up being resurrected but given that they're life expired you'd hope if PVR's ever do re-increase Darlington that newer vehicles are sourced from elsewhere

I'm surprised they haven't thought outside the box like GNE did and invested in some donor vehicles from elsewhere. Assuming the price works for them...
There's obviously an issue with parts somewhere and it's certainly not unique to one operator either.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Lottie332



180
19 Sep 2021, 6:16 pm #32
Darts 1759/1766 left Redcar depot last week I'm assuming they've gone to Alpha
Lottie332
19 Sep 2021, 6:16 pm #32

Darts 1759/1766 left Redcar depot last week I'm assuming they've gone to Alpha

Storx



4,481
19 Sep 2021, 6:46 pm #33
(19 Sep 2021, 3:41 pm)Andreos1 I'm surprised they haven't thought outside the box like GNE did and invested in some donor vehicles from elsewhere. Assuming the price works for them...
There's obviously an issue with parts somewhere and it's certainly not unique to one operator either.

In fairness it probably wouldn't make sense buying buses outside of Arriva to keep buses going which are finished. There's not going to be many older Omnicity's than 05 plates.

The GNE ones have had an easier life with some of them up here being on the X93 and more recently on the X15/X18/685/X66/X67 which aren't easy routes.

It would make sense to get proper replacements here to and send them down to the Midlands to keep the 58/09 plates going down there though mind.
Storx
19 Sep 2021, 6:46 pm #33

(19 Sep 2021, 3:41 pm)Andreos1 I'm surprised they haven't thought outside the box like GNE did and invested in some donor vehicles from elsewhere. Assuming the price works for them...
There's obviously an issue with parts somewhere and it's certainly not unique to one operator either.

In fairness it probably wouldn't make sense buying buses outside of Arriva to keep buses going which are finished. There's not going to be many older Omnicity's than 05 plates.

The GNE ones have had an easier life with some of them up here being on the X93 and more recently on the X15/X18/685/X66/X67 which aren't easy routes.

It would make sense to get proper replacements here to and send them down to the Midlands to keep the 58/09 plates going down there though mind.

peter



993
19 Sep 2021, 11:34 pm #34
(19 Sep 2021, 3:41 pm)Andreos1 I'm surprised they haven't thought outside the box like GNE did and invested in some donor vehicles from elsewhere. Assuming the price works for them...
There's obviously an issue with parts somewhere and it's certainly not unique to one operator either.

(19 Sep 2021, 6:46 pm)Storx In fairness it probably wouldn't make sense buying buses outside of Arriva to keep buses going which are finished. There's not going to be many older Omnicity's than 05 plates.

The GNE ones have had an easier life with some of them up here being on the X93 and more recently on the X15/X18/685/X66/X67 which aren't easy routes.

It would make sense to get proper replacements here to and send them down to the Midlands to keep the 58/09 plates going down there though mind.

I suppose given that ANE have had some PVR decreases recently that seem to be continuing long-term, it's probably the case that some are being withdrawn for that reason and then raided for spare parts to keep the others going.
peter
19 Sep 2021, 11:34 pm #34

(19 Sep 2021, 3:41 pm)Andreos1 I'm surprised they haven't thought outside the box like GNE did and invested in some donor vehicles from elsewhere. Assuming the price works for them...
There's obviously an issue with parts somewhere and it's certainly not unique to one operator either.

(19 Sep 2021, 6:46 pm)Storx In fairness it probably wouldn't make sense buying buses outside of Arriva to keep buses going which are finished. There's not going to be many older Omnicity's than 05 plates.

The GNE ones have had an easier life with some of them up here being on the X93 and more recently on the X15/X18/685/X66/X67 which aren't easy routes.

It would make sense to get proper replacements here to and send them down to the Midlands to keep the 58/09 plates going down there though mind.

I suppose given that ANE have had some PVR decreases recently that seem to be continuing long-term, it's probably the case that some are being withdrawn for that reason and then raided for spare parts to keep the others going.

Ryland



453
17 Oct 2021, 5:58 pm #35
4646 has now gone to alpha
Ryland
17 Oct 2021, 5:58 pm #35

4646 has now gone to alpha

Train8261



1,016
23 Nov 2021, 4:01 pm #36
Two Arriva buses are at Alpha

Arriva Solo (Old style livery)

Arriva Volvo B7TL Wright Eclipse Gemini

Didn't see the fleet numbers or numbers plates
Train8261
23 Nov 2021, 4:01 pm #36

Two Arriva buses are at Alpha

Arriva Solo (Old style livery)

Arriva Volvo B7TL Wright Eclipse Gemini

Didn't see the fleet numbers or numbers plates

Jimmi



10,966
23 Nov 2021, 5:21 pm #37
(23 Nov 2021, 4:01 pm)Train8261 Two Arriva buses are at Alpha

Arriva Solo (Old style livery)

Arriva Volvo B7TL Wright Eclipse Gemini

Didn't see the fleet numbers or numbers plates
Think the Solo is 2819
Jimmi
23 Nov 2021, 5:21 pm #37

(23 Nov 2021, 4:01 pm)Train8261 Two Arriva buses are at Alpha

Arriva Solo (Old style livery)

Arriva Volvo B7TL Wright Eclipse Gemini

Didn't see the fleet numbers or numbers plates
Think the Solo is 2819

peter



993
23 Nov 2021, 6:04 pm #38
(23 Nov 2021, 5:21 pm)Jimmi Think the Solo is 2819
The B7 is likely to be 7487 or 7492
peter
23 Nov 2021, 6:04 pm #38

(23 Nov 2021, 5:21 pm)Jimmi Think the Solo is 2819
The B7 is likely to be 7487 or 7492

Train8261



1,016
23 Nov 2021, 6:06 pm #39
It's YK08 ETU

(23 Nov 2021, 6:04 pm)peter The B7 is likely to be 7487 or 7492
Passed alpha. Wasn't there now. But early it was on the back of a two truck being pulled in
Edited 23 Nov 2021, 6:07 pm by Train8261.
Train8261
23 Nov 2021, 6:06 pm #39

It's YK08 ETU


(23 Nov 2021, 6:04 pm)peter The B7 is likely to be 7487 or 7492
Passed alpha. Wasn't there now. But early it was on the back of a two truck being pulled in

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