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Michael



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25 Jun 2021, 2:01 pm #1
PB0002404 SI BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Director(s): STEVEN WALKER, BRUCE DINGWELL, CARLA STOCKTON-JONES, MICHELLE HARGREAVES


ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, WHEATSHEAF, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ

Decrease at existing operating centre: SLATYFORD DEPOT, SLATYFORD LANE, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NE5 2SE
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 175 vehicle(s)


Decrease at existing operating centre: SOUTH SHIELDS DEPOT, DEAN ROAD, SOUTH SHIELDS, NE33 4HZ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 100 vehicle(s)


Decrease at existing operating centre: WHEATSHEAF DEPOT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 150 vehicle(s)


Increase at existing operating centre: WALKERGATE DEPOT, SHIELDS ROAD, WALKER, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NE6 2BZ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 175 vehicle(s)


Info from the Vosa sheet emailed to me last night


Can't remember how I signed up for it.. sorry

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
25 Jun 2021, 2:01 pm #1

PB0002404 SI BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Director(s): STEVEN WALKER, BRUCE DINGWELL, CARLA STOCKTON-JONES, MICHELLE HARGREAVES


ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, WHEATSHEAF, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ

Decrease at existing operating centre: SLATYFORD DEPOT, SLATYFORD LANE, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NE5 2SE
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 175 vehicle(s)


Decrease at existing operating centre: SOUTH SHIELDS DEPOT, DEAN ROAD, SOUTH SHIELDS, NE33 4HZ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 100 vehicle(s)


Decrease at existing operating centre: WHEATSHEAF DEPOT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 150 vehicle(s)


Increase at existing operating centre: WALKERGATE DEPOT, SHIELDS ROAD, WALKER, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NE6 2BZ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 175 vehicle(s)


Info from the Vosa sheet emailed to me last night


Can't remember how I signed up for it.. sorry


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

25 Jun 2021, 11:45 pm #2
(25 Jun 2021, 2:01 pm)Michael PB0002404 SI BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Director(s): STEVEN WALKER, BRUCE DINGWELL, CARLA STOCKTON-JONES, MICHELLE HARGREAVES


ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, WHEATSHEAF, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ

Decrease at existing operating centre: SLATYFORD DEPOT, SLATYFORD LANE, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NE5 2SE
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 175 vehicle(s)


Decrease at existing operating centre: SOUTH SHIELDS DEPOT, DEAN ROAD, SOUTH SHIELDS, NE33 4HZ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 100 vehicle(s)


Decrease at existing operating centre: WHEATSHEAF DEPOT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 150 vehicle(s)


Increase at existing operating centre: WALKERGATE DEPOT, SHIELDS ROAD, WALKER, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NE6 2BZ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 175 vehicle(s)


Info from the Vosa sheet emailed to me last night


Can't remember how I signed up for it.. sorry

So what is the current numbers?
logidoodah
25 Jun 2021, 11:45 pm #2

(25 Jun 2021, 2:01 pm)Michael PB0002404 SI BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Director(s): STEVEN WALKER, BRUCE DINGWELL, CARLA STOCKTON-JONES, MICHELLE HARGREAVES


ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, WHEATSHEAF, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ

Decrease at existing operating centre: SLATYFORD DEPOT, SLATYFORD LANE, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NE5 2SE
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 175 vehicle(s)


Decrease at existing operating centre: SOUTH SHIELDS DEPOT, DEAN ROAD, SOUTH SHIELDS, NE33 4HZ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 100 vehicle(s)


Decrease at existing operating centre: WHEATSHEAF DEPOT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 150 vehicle(s)


Increase at existing operating centre: WALKERGATE DEPOT, SHIELDS ROAD, WALKER, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NE6 2BZ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 175 vehicle(s)


Info from the Vosa sheet emailed to me last night


Can't remember how I signed up for it.. sorry

So what is the current numbers?

25 Jun 2021, 11:50 pm #3
What does this mean just wondering I'm confused
Micheal Aaron
25 Jun 2021, 11:50 pm #3

What does this mean just wondering I'm confused

26 Jun 2021, 2:23 am #4
(25 Jun 2021, 11:50 pm)Micheal Aaron What does this mean just wondering I'm confused

Companies have to register the maximum number of vehicles it wishes to keep at a depot, things like this are just amendments to the capacity. It may just be to house temporary buses or used as a contingency for years to come. Perhaps the decreases are getting rid of loaned or withdrawn vehicles.
omnicity4659
26 Jun 2021, 2:23 am #4

(25 Jun 2021, 11:50 pm)Micheal Aaron What does this mean just wondering I'm confused

Companies have to register the maximum number of vehicles it wishes to keep at a depot, things like this are just amendments to the capacity. It may just be to house temporary buses or used as a contingency for years to come. Perhaps the decreases are getting rid of loaned or withdrawn vehicles.

26 Jun 2021, 8:59 am #5
(26 Jun 2021, 2:23 am)omnicity4659 Companies have to register the maximum number of vehicles it wishes to keep at a depot, things like this are just amendments to the capacity. It may just be to house temporary buses or used as a contingency for years to come. Perhaps the decreases are getting rid of loaned or withdrawn vehicles.

Remember, it's just a theoretical capacity - it doesn't mean that's how many Stagecoach will actually be parking there.  An increase is a clue that there may be some service changes coming up that need more vehicles (a recent, significant, increase at Patchway in Bristol was a clue in advance that Stagecoach were having a bit of an assault on some of the local routes, and now have a decent permanent presence in the area!).  A decrease could imply the opposite, or they may just be disposing of surplus capacity that they haven't used for a while, as I guess it costs them for every nominal allocation whether or not it's actually used.
Ianthegoon
26 Jun 2021, 8:59 am #5

(26 Jun 2021, 2:23 am)omnicity4659 Companies have to register the maximum number of vehicles it wishes to keep at a depot, things like this are just amendments to the capacity. It may just be to house temporary buses or used as a contingency for years to come. Perhaps the decreases are getting rid of loaned or withdrawn vehicles.

Remember, it's just a theoretical capacity - it doesn't mean that's how many Stagecoach will actually be parking there.  An increase is a clue that there may be some service changes coming up that need more vehicles (a recent, significant, increase at Patchway in Bristol was a clue in advance that Stagecoach were having a bit of an assault on some of the local routes, and now have a decent permanent presence in the area!).  A decrease could imply the opposite, or they may just be disposing of surplus capacity that they haven't used for a while, as I guess it costs them for every nominal allocation whether or not it's actually used.

busmanT



921
26 Jun 2021, 12:27 pm #6
(25 Jun 2021, 2:01 pm)Michael PB0002404 SI BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Director(s): STEVEN WALKER, BRUCE DINGWELL, CARLA STOCKTON-JONES, MICHELLE HARGREAVES


ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, WHEATSHEAF, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ

Decrease at existing operating centre: SLATYFORD DEPOT, SLATYFORD LANE, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NE5 2SE
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 175 vehicle(s)


Decrease at existing operating centre: SOUTH SHIELDS DEPOT, DEAN ROAD, SOUTH SHIELDS, NE33 4HZ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 100 vehicle(s)


Decrease at existing operating centre: WHEATSHEAF DEPOT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 150 vehicle(s)


Increase at existing operating centre: WALKERGATE DEPOT, SHIELDS ROAD, WALKER, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NE6 2BZ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 175 vehicle(s)


Info from the Vosa sheet emailed to me last night


Can't remember how I signed up for it.. sorry
Interesting that they have so many vehicles authorised with the Busways fleet only being about 360 vehicles, and only 338 allocated to depots.

Slatyford 100
South Shields  36
Sunderland  95
Walkergate 107
busmanT
26 Jun 2021, 12:27 pm #6

(25 Jun 2021, 2:01 pm)Michael PB0002404 SI BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Director(s): STEVEN WALKER, BRUCE DINGWELL, CARLA STOCKTON-JONES, MICHELLE HARGREAVES


ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, WHEATSHEAF, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ

Decrease at existing operating centre: SLATYFORD DEPOT, SLATYFORD LANE, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NE5 2SE
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 175 vehicle(s)


Decrease at existing operating centre: SOUTH SHIELDS DEPOT, DEAN ROAD, SOUTH SHIELDS, NE33 4HZ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 100 vehicle(s)


Decrease at existing operating centre: WHEATSHEAF DEPOT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 150 vehicle(s)


Increase at existing operating centre: WALKERGATE DEPOT, SHIELDS ROAD, WALKER, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, NE6 2BZ
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 175 vehicle(s)


Info from the Vosa sheet emailed to me last night


Can't remember how I signed up for it.. sorry
Interesting that they have so many vehicles authorised with the Busways fleet only being about 360 vehicles, and only 338 allocated to depots.

Slatyford 100
South Shields  36
Sunderland  95
Walkergate 107

Malarkey



6,060
26 Jun 2021, 2:14 pm #7
(26 Jun 2021, 12:27 pm)busmanT Interesting that they have so many vehicles authorised with the Busways fleet only being about 360 vehicles, and only 338 allocated to depots.

Slatyford 100
South Shields  36
Sunderland  95
Walkergate 107

It does make you wonder if there is something in the pipeline for a further expansion of operations within Busways, maybe a potential purchase of some of the Arriva operations from across the region might be on the horizon.
Malarkey
26 Jun 2021, 2:14 pm #7

(26 Jun 2021, 12:27 pm)busmanT Interesting that they have so many vehicles authorised with the Busways fleet only being about 360 vehicles, and only 338 allocated to depots.

Slatyford 100
South Shields  36
Sunderland  95
Walkergate 107

It does make you wonder if there is something in the pipeline for a further expansion of operations within Busways, maybe a potential purchase of some of the Arriva operations from across the region might be on the horizon.

busmanT



921
26 Jun 2021, 2:54 pm #8
(26 Jun 2021, 2:14 pm)Malarkey It does make you wonder if there is something in the pipeline for a further expansion of operations within Busways, maybe a potential purchase of some of the Arriva operations from across the region might be on the horizon.
Cleveland Transit appears still to be authorised for 390 vehicles but only has around 120.
busmanT
26 Jun 2021, 2:54 pm #8

(26 Jun 2021, 2:14 pm)Malarkey It does make you wonder if there is something in the pipeline for a further expansion of operations within Busways, maybe a potential purchase of some of the Arriva operations from across the region might be on the horizon.
Cleveland Transit appears still to be authorised for 390 vehicles but only has around 120.

col87



493
01 Jul 2021, 9:34 pm #9
(26 Jun 2021, 2:54 pm)busmanT Cleveland Transit appears still to be authorised for 390 vehicles but only has around 120.
Is that including Hartlepool. Hartlepool has about 30 buses but only about half seem to be on the road most days.
col87
01 Jul 2021, 9:34 pm #9

(26 Jun 2021, 2:54 pm)busmanT Cleveland Transit appears still to be authorised for 390 vehicles but only has around 120.
Is that including Hartlepool. Hartlepool has about 30 buses but only about half seem to be on the road most days.

busmanT



921
02 Jul 2021, 10:39 pm #10
(01 Jul 2021, 9:34 pm)col87 Is that including Hartlepool. Hartlepool has about 30 buses but only about half seem to be on the road most days.
Yes, I think Transit only has 116 buses including Hartlepool.
busmanT
02 Jul 2021, 10:39 pm #10

(01 Jul 2021, 9:34 pm)col87 Is that including Hartlepool. Hartlepool has about 30 buses but only about half seem to be on the road most days.
Yes, I think Transit only has 116 buses including Hartlepool.

Storx



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02 Jul 2021, 11:23 pm #11
(26 Jun 2021, 2:14 pm)Malarkey It does make you wonder if there is something in the pipeline for a further expansion of operations within Busways, maybe a potential purchase of some of the Arriva operations from across the region might be on the horizon.

They've decreased the numbers..? Not sure how that would make you think they're suddenly thinking about takeovers especially given the climate.
Storx
02 Jul 2021, 11:23 pm #11

(26 Jun 2021, 2:14 pm)Malarkey It does make you wonder if there is something in the pipeline for a further expansion of operations within Busways, maybe a potential purchase of some of the Arriva operations from across the region might be on the horizon.

They've decreased the numbers..? Not sure how that would make you think they're suddenly thinking about takeovers especially given the climate.

 
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