Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise
Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise
(24 Sep 2021, 8:28 pm)Driver9*** £35k a year? Aye, if you work 70 hours a week!
(24 Sep 2021, 8:28 pm)Driver9*** £35k a year? Aye, if you work 70 hours a week!
(24 Sep 2021, 8:32 pm)Adrian Thanks, I thought it would be something like that... so the 21k advertised being based on average hours, rather than a set amount per week.
(24 Sep 2021, 8:32 pm)Adrian Thanks, I thought it would be something like that... so the 21k advertised being based on average hours, rather than a set amount per week.
(24 Sep 2021, 8:42 pm)Adrian I have to admit, even at £10 an hour, I could get close to the calculation of 35k at an average of 67.5 hours per week over the year. That's not taking into account any overtime rates, extra for certain days or whatever, but I think those hours are probably still legal within the GB driving rules and rest time.This thread has certainly opened my eyes like. I'm on the top rate at Arriva which equates to just under 25k a year and I thought I was hard done by!
It's a bit of an odd sell though. Encouraging people to work themselves into the ground for a 35k salary.
(24 Sep 2021, 8:42 pm)Adrian I have to admit, even at £10 an hour, I could get close to the calculation of 35k at an average of 67.5 hours per week over the year. That's not taking into account any overtime rates, extra for certain days or whatever, but I think those hours are probably still legal within the GB driving rules and rest time.This thread has certainly opened my eyes like. I'm on the top rate at Arriva which equates to just under 25k a year and I thought I was hard done by!
It's a bit of an odd sell though. Encouraging people to work themselves into the ground for a 35k salary.
(24 Sep 2021, 8:58 pm)Driver9*** This thread has certainly opened my eyes like. I'm on the top rate at Arriva which equates to just under 25k a year and I thought I was hard done by!
(24 Sep 2021, 8:58 pm)Driver9*** This thread has certainly opened my eyes like. I'm on the top rate at Arriva which equates to just under 25k a year and I thought I was hard done by!
(24 Sep 2021, 9:17 pm)Ambassador £25k a year is probably the median North East wage, pretty decent for entry level work tbh. Higher wage than a probation officer starting salary!I'm sorry like but bus driving is hardly "entry level" work is it? Cleaning, manual labour or stacking shelves in shops are examples of that. I'd say bus driving is semi-skilled.
(24 Sep 2021, 9:17 pm)Ambassador £25k a year is probably the median North East wage, pretty decent for entry level work tbh. Higher wage than a probation officer starting salary!I'm sorry like but bus driving is hardly "entry level" work is it? Cleaning, manual labour or stacking shelves in shops are examples of that. I'd say bus driving is semi-skilled.
(24 Sep 2021, 9:37 pm)Driver9*** I'm sorry like but bus driving is hardly "entry level" work is it? Cleaning, manual labour or stacking shelves in shops are examples of that. I'd say bus driving is semi-skilled.
(24 Sep 2021, 9:37 pm)Driver9*** I'm sorry like but bus driving is hardly "entry level" work is it? Cleaning, manual labour or stacking shelves in shops are examples of that. I'd say bus driving is semi-skilled.
(24 Sep 2021, 9:53 pm)Adrian By definition of entry-level work. it probably is, because it requires minimal professional work experience to join, and there's potential to use the experience to move into management or other operational roles within the industry. That's not knocking the skill (and patience!) required to do the job, but it's something that can be trained to new starters as part of the process of getting them qualified as a bus driver. You're generally not recruiting people based on having 10 years of industry experience.So how many other entry level jobs require you to undertake training to pass a test that costs around £2000 and has to be repayed to the employer if you leave the job within the first two years?
IMO it's no different to graduates joining the NHS as project assistants or whatever, and then working their way up the grading structure, gaining their experience along the way.
(24 Sep 2021, 9:53 pm)Adrian By definition of entry-level work. it probably is, because it requires minimal professional work experience to join, and there's potential to use the experience to move into management or other operational roles within the industry. That's not knocking the skill (and patience!) required to do the job, but it's something that can be trained to new starters as part of the process of getting them qualified as a bus driver. You're generally not recruiting people based on having 10 years of industry experience.So how many other entry level jobs require you to undertake training to pass a test that costs around £2000 and has to be repayed to the employer if you leave the job within the first two years?
IMO it's no different to graduates joining the NHS as project assistants or whatever, and then working their way up the grading structure, gaining their experience along the way.
(24 Sep 2021, 10:07 pm)Driver9*** So how many other entry level jobs require you to undertake training to pass a test that costs around £2000 and has to be repayed to the employer if you leave the job within the first two years?
I'm not surprised at non bus drivers like Ambassador putting down the job we do, but disappointed at someone like yourself who has actually done it (I assume).
(24 Sep 2021, 10:07 pm)Driver9*** So how many other entry level jobs require you to undertake training to pass a test that costs around £2000 and has to be repayed to the employer if you leave the job within the first two years?
I'm not surprised at non bus drivers like Ambassador putting down the job we do, but disappointed at someone like yourself who has actually done it (I assume).
(24 Sep 2021, 9:37 pm)Driver9*** I'm sorry like but bus driving is hardly "entry level" work is it? Cleaning, manual labour or stacking shelves in shops are examples of that. I'd say bus driving is semi-skilled.
(24 Sep 2021, 9:37 pm)Driver9*** I'm sorry like but bus driving is hardly "entry level" work is it? Cleaning, manual labour or stacking shelves in shops are examples of that. I'd say bus driving is semi-skilled.
Fair enough regarding the fact graduates have to pay back student loans, but only if they earn over a certain amount and the ceiling on their earnings is far higher than a bus drivers.
Any news on what happened then? They're advertising a starting rate of £21k a year now which equates to £10/hr so I assume it's been resolved?
It's such a shame that the UK no longer has a freedom of movement agreement with the EU.
In Poland, the pay and conditions of Srriva North East have improved to the point where drivers are receiving approximately a week's wage for a just a few hours work. Some drivers relish the chance to spend more time with their family, friends, and loved ones, however there are stories of some drivers who are restless because they now have too much time on their hands. Some of more restless drivers would love to come and work in the UK, breaking strike action for a fraction of what they are paid in Poland. It's just a pity they are no longer legally entitled to do so.
(19 Oct 2021, 6:09 pm)Clifton Hignett III It's such a shame that the UK no longer has a freedom of movement agreement with the EU.I saw someone saying they can no longer get cheap labour from Poland which is really false as they were gettign the same wage as everyone else.
In Poland, the pay and conditions of Srriva North East have improved to the point where drivers are receiving approximately a week's wage for a just a few hours work. Some drivers relish the chance to spend more time with their family, friends, and loved ones, however there are stories of some drivers who are restless because they now have too much time on their hands. Some of more restless drivers would love to come and work in the UK, breaking strike action for a fraction of what they are paid in Poland. It's just a pity they are no longer legally entitled to do so.
(19 Oct 2021, 6:09 pm)Clifton Hignett III It's such a shame that the UK no longer has a freedom of movement agreement with the EU.I saw someone saying they can no longer get cheap labour from Poland which is really false as they were gettign the same wage as everyone else.
In Poland, the pay and conditions of Srriva North East have improved to the point where drivers are receiving approximately a week's wage for a just a few hours work. Some drivers relish the chance to spend more time with their family, friends, and loved ones, however there are stories of some drivers who are restless because they now have too much time on their hands. Some of more restless drivers would love to come and work in the UK, breaking strike action for a fraction of what they are paid in Poland. It's just a pity they are no longer legally entitled to do so.
(19 Oct 2021, 6:55 pm)Keeiajs I saw someone saying they can no longer get cheap labour from Poland which is really false as they were gettign the same wage as everyone else.
(19 Oct 2021, 7:16 pm)MurdnunoC I might become a bus driver in Poland if you get paid a weeks wage for just a few hours work.
It even beats the £19ph that GCT were offering on Facebook a few weeks ago.
(19 Oct 2021, 6:55 pm)Keeiajs I saw someone saying they can no longer get cheap labour from Poland which is really false as they were gettign the same wage as everyone else.
(19 Oct 2021, 7:16 pm)MurdnunoC I might become a bus driver in Poland if you get paid a weeks wage for just a few hours work.
It even beats the £19ph that GCT were offering on Facebook a few weeks ago.
I wonder if GNE drivers would ever do anything like this, but in Japan the drivers were striking and they drove all their routes but just let all passengers on for free and not accept any money wouldn't this be a better thing to do than strike and possible create services to every 30-60 mins.
