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Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise

 
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Andreos1



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07 Jul 2021, 10:19 pm #59
(07 Jul 2021, 8:59 pm)streetdeckfan I do obtain some value, but not £8 a week. Assuming you're being genuine and not arguing for the sake of it, I'd probably put the value of this forum at around the £5 a month mark. 

At risk of offending some people on here and going off topic, I'll try and explain my dislike of enthusiasts.

In my eyes there are 2 different types of enthusiasts, those who completely obsess over something, and those who have an interest in that thing. It's the first type that I don't like.
Those that spend the whole day camping outside of a bus depot to get the first photo of a new bus or livery.
Or stand outside of the Metrocentre all day and take a blurry photo of every bloody bus.
Or those who have to be the first to ride a new bus.
Or those that can only see the positives in an operator and completely ignore all the negatives, or vice versa.
The same can also be said about the positives and negatives of vehicles.

I could also be described a PC enthusiasts (computers that is, not political correctness, that can sod off) and have exactly the same opinions about those enthusiasts. 

You're also taking what I said way out of context.

What I said was that if you're only £32 a month from going bust, then an extra £32 a month on top of that is going to make sod all difference.
If that was me, I'd either be making cut backs on non-essentials, or looking for a job that earns more money.

Whether or not I think they deserve a pay rise is irrelevant, the fact that they've been offered a 2% pay rise, which considering the state of the industry I was surprised it was that high. 
Like I said before, If I was in their position I would be embarrassed to argue for an extra £8 a week on top of, in my opinion, an already extremely generous offer. 

Without being disrespectful towards someone's capabilities or intelligence, would all of those people struggling to get by and needing that £8 a week - be able to achieve a higher paid job?

You have no idea what people's individual circumstances are.
You have no idea what difference a 'small' amount might make to a bus drivers family struggling to get by because of circumstances and what life throws at them.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
07 Jul 2021, 10:19 pm #59

(07 Jul 2021, 8:59 pm)streetdeckfan I do obtain some value, but not £8 a week. Assuming you're being genuine and not arguing for the sake of it, I'd probably put the value of this forum at around the £5 a month mark. 

At risk of offending some people on here and going off topic, I'll try and explain my dislike of enthusiasts.

In my eyes there are 2 different types of enthusiasts, those who completely obsess over something, and those who have an interest in that thing. It's the first type that I don't like.
Those that spend the whole day camping outside of a bus depot to get the first photo of a new bus or livery.
Or stand outside of the Metrocentre all day and take a blurry photo of every bloody bus.
Or those who have to be the first to ride a new bus.
Or those that can only see the positives in an operator and completely ignore all the negatives, or vice versa.
The same can also be said about the positives and negatives of vehicles.

I could also be described a PC enthusiasts (computers that is, not political correctness, that can sod off) and have exactly the same opinions about those enthusiasts. 

You're also taking what I said way out of context.

What I said was that if you're only £32 a month from going bust, then an extra £32 a month on top of that is going to make sod all difference.
If that was me, I'd either be making cut backs on non-essentials, or looking for a job that earns more money.

Whether or not I think they deserve a pay rise is irrelevant, the fact that they've been offered a 2% pay rise, which considering the state of the industry I was surprised it was that high. 
Like I said before, If I was in their position I would be embarrassed to argue for an extra £8 a week on top of, in my opinion, an already extremely generous offer. 

Without being disrespectful towards someone's capabilities or intelligence, would all of those people struggling to get by and needing that £8 a week - be able to achieve a higher paid job?

You have no idea what people's individual circumstances are.
You have no idea what difference a 'small' amount might make to a bus drivers family struggling to get by because of circumstances and what life throws at them.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

 
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Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Adrian - 06 Jul 2021, 7:47 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by streetdeckfan - 06 Jul 2021, 8:15 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Micheal Aaron - 06 Jul 2021, 8:18 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by streetdeckfan - 06 Jul 2021, 8:20 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Ambassador - 06 Jul 2021, 8:34 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Adrian - 06 Jul 2021, 8:44 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Andreos1 - 06 Jul 2021, 8:51 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Micheal Aaron - 06 Jul 2021, 8:51 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by GNE6312 - 06 Jul 2021, 9:14 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by streetdeckfan - 06 Jul 2021, 9:35 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Andreos1 - 06 Jul 2021, 9:55 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by stagecoachbusdepot - 06 Jul 2021, 11:49 pm
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by MurdnunoC - 06 Jul 2021, 9:53 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Andreos1 - 06 Jul 2021, 10:13 am
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RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Andreos1 - 06 Jul 2021, 11:18 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Adrian - 06 Jul 2021, 10:01 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Chris 1 - 06 Jul 2021, 11:23 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by streetdeckfan - 06 Jul 2021, 1:25 pm
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RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Chris 1 - 06 Jul 2021, 2:50 pm
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Andreos1 - 06 Jul 2021, 7:35 pm
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Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Dan - 07 Jul 2021, 4:42 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Chris 1 - 07 Jul 2021, 12:34 pm
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by streetdeckfan - 07 Jul 2021, 11:45 am
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RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by streetdeckfan - 07 Jul 2021, 8:59 pm
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Andreos1 - 07 Jul 2021, 10:19 pm
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RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Adrian - 07 Jul 2021, 12:13 pm
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RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by morritt89 - 07 Jul 2021, 1:26 pm
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RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Adrian - 08 Jul 2021, 8:59 am
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RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Adrian - 22 Jul 2021, 9:01 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by streetdeckfan - 22 Jul 2021, 9:59 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Ambassador - 14 Sep 2021, 11:04 am
RE: Go North East respond after bus drivers hit out over pay rise - by Train8261 - 14 Sep 2021, 11:12 am
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