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11 Aug 2021, 8:17 pm #21
(11 Aug 2021, 6:56 pm)RobinHood In order to cover 100% miles, yes.

20% reduction in drivers in some depots can be as much as 40 people. Considering the North depots are going back to close to normal end of this month suggests that drivers are close to normal levels - at least North of the Tyne. If I was a driver there, I would be worried.
If they have worked for them for less than two years then yes, as it'll cost them nothing to get rid of them. The irony being i'd love to be made redundant if the "price was right " so to speak, but as a long server i'd be one of the last to be offered it. In fact i'd probably have more chance of being hit by lightning.
Driver9***
11 Aug 2021, 8:17 pm #21

(11 Aug 2021, 6:56 pm)RobinHood In order to cover 100% miles, yes.

20% reduction in drivers in some depots can be as much as 40 people. Considering the North depots are going back to close to normal end of this month suggests that drivers are close to normal levels - at least North of the Tyne. If I was a driver there, I would be worried.
If they have worked for them for less than two years then yes, as it'll cost them nothing to get rid of them. The irony being i'd love to be made redundant if the "price was right " so to speak, but as a long server i'd be one of the last to be offered it. In fact i'd probably have more chance of being hit by lightning.

col87



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09 Sep 2021, 9:16 pm #22
I would say the south region there not much investment needed. Maybe a few more deckers for the X12 if it continues long term to Newcastle and they missing an opportunity not to promote the fact they go to Eldon Square, so maybe deckers with route branding and possibly a faster service alongside the X12. They need to look at replacing the 08 plate solos and possibly the E200 on the 57 57A but other than that most of the fleet seems fine.
col87
09 Sep 2021, 9:16 pm #22

I would say the south region there not much investment needed. Maybe a few more deckers for the X12 if it continues long term to Newcastle and they missing an opportunity not to promote the fact they go to Eldon Square, so maybe deckers with route branding and possibly a faster service alongside the X12. They need to look at replacing the 08 plate solos and possibly the E200 on the 57 57A but other than that most of the fleet seems fine.

V514DFT



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09 Sep 2021, 9:47 pm #23
(09 Sep 2021, 9:16 pm)col87 I would say the south region there not much investment needed. Maybe a few more deckers for the X12 if it continues long term to Newcastle and they missing an opportunity not to promote the fact they go to Eldon Square, so maybe deckers with route branding and possibly a faster service alongside the X12.  They need to look at replacing the 08 plate solos and possibly the E200 on the 57 57A but other than that most of the fleet seems fine.
Believe me,Arriva's fleet is far from fine

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
09 Sep 2021, 9:47 pm #23

(09 Sep 2021, 9:16 pm)col87 I would say the south region there not much investment needed. Maybe a few more deckers for the X12 if it continues long term to Newcastle and they missing an opportunity not to promote the fact they go to Eldon Square, so maybe deckers with route branding and possibly a faster service alongside the X12.  They need to look at replacing the 08 plate solos and possibly the E200 on the 57 57A but other than that most of the fleet seems fine.
Believe me,Arriva's fleet is far from fine


Kind Regards
Tez

col87



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09 Sep 2021, 10:12 pm #24
(09 Sep 2021, 9:47 pm)V514DFT Believe me,Arriva's fleet is far from fine
I believe you but riding on a pulsar yesterday or streetlight is luxury when the majority of the time your riding about on knackered 08 plate enviro 200s which could break down at any moment.
col87
09 Sep 2021, 10:12 pm #24

(09 Sep 2021, 9:47 pm)V514DFT Believe me,Arriva's fleet is far from fine
I believe you but riding on a pulsar yesterday or streetlight is luxury when the majority of the time your riding about on knackered 08 plate enviro 200s which could break down at any moment.

Jimmi



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10 Sep 2021, 12:36 pm #25
(09 Sep 2021, 9:16 pm)col87 I would say the south region there not much investment needed. Maybe a few more deckers for the X12 if it continues long term to Newcastle and they missing an opportunity not to promote the fact they go to Eldon Square, so maybe deckers with route branding and possibly a faster service alongside the X12. They need to look at replacing the 08 plate solos and possibly the E200 on the 57 57A but other than that most of the fleet seems fine.
X12 doesn't really require double deckers most of the time tbh
Jimmi
10 Sep 2021, 12:36 pm #25

(09 Sep 2021, 9:16 pm)col87 I would say the south region there not much investment needed. Maybe a few more deckers for the X12 if it continues long term to Newcastle and they missing an opportunity not to promote the fact they go to Eldon Square, so maybe deckers with route branding and possibly a faster service alongside the X12. They need to look at replacing the 08 plate solos and possibly the E200 on the 57 57A but other than that most of the fleet seems fine.
X12 doesn't really require double deckers most of the time tbh

Storx



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10 Sep 2021, 1:19 pm #26
(09 Sep 2021, 9:16 pm)col87 I would say the south region there not much investment needed. Maybe a few more deckers for the X12 if it continues long term to Newcastle and they missing an opportunity not to promote the fact they go to Eldon Square, so maybe deckers with route branding and possibly a faster service alongside the X12.  They need to look at replacing the 08 plate solos and possibly the E200 on the 57 57A but other than that most of the fleet seems fine.

I never use them but surely the following are high priority:
  • The Wright B7TL's at Durham / Redcar
  • 55 Plate B7TL's on the X46/X93/X94 (don't need to be withdrawn but should be in spare role not frontline service)
  • Omnicities on the X66/X67, X26/X27, X75/X76
  • 57 Plate Centro's at Stockton or wherever they're at now.

They're all getting on now and the Omnicity's are horribly unreliable.
Storx
10 Sep 2021, 1:19 pm #26

(09 Sep 2021, 9:16 pm)col87 I would say the south region there not much investment needed. Maybe a few more deckers for the X12 if it continues long term to Newcastle and they missing an opportunity not to promote the fact they go to Eldon Square, so maybe deckers with route branding and possibly a faster service alongside the X12.  They need to look at replacing the 08 plate solos and possibly the E200 on the 57 57A but other than that most of the fleet seems fine.

I never use them but surely the following are high priority:
  • The Wright B7TL's at Durham / Redcar
  • 55 Plate B7TL's on the X46/X93/X94 (don't need to be withdrawn but should be in spare role not frontline service)
  • Omnicities on the X66/X67, X26/X27, X75/X76
  • 57 Plate Centro's at Stockton or wherever they're at now.

They're all getting on now and the Omnicity's are horribly unreliable.

10 Sep 2021, 3:00 pm #27
The X12 used to have deckers, and occasionally still chucks up an E400. As with all speculation or desire there is little prospect of anything new or cascaded. The sale of the whole company causes no end of problems with monopolies, and it just drags on and on. The more time passes the less attractive the business and the less willing to replace en-masse the prospective suitors.
54APhotography
10 Sep 2021, 3:00 pm #27

The X12 used to have deckers, and occasionally still chucks up an E400. As with all speculation or desire there is little prospect of anything new or cascaded. The sale of the whole company causes no end of problems with monopolies, and it just drags on and on. The more time passes the less attractive the business and the less willing to replace en-masse the prospective suitors.

V514DFT



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10 Sep 2021, 7:46 pm #28
Do any of the depots own anything that is Euro 6,because theyre gonna need to have Euro 6 buses when CAZ takes effect

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
10 Sep 2021, 7:46 pm #28

Do any of the depots own anything that is Euro 6,because theyre gonna need to have Euro 6 buses when CAZ takes effect


Kind Regards
Tez

Storx



4,481
10 Sep 2021, 7:52 pm #29
(10 Sep 2021, 7:46 pm)V514DFT Do any of the depots own anything that is Euro 6,because theyre gonna need to have Euro 6 buses when CAZ takes effect

The majority of Northumbria's fleet.

All Gemini 2's
The Max Pulsars at Blyth
Believe all the Pulsars at Jesmond
Some Solos at Jesmond, not sure which.
Jesmond Streetlites
Believe all the Enviro 400 (MMC)'s - not 100% sure there.
The X12 Pulsars

There's only the B7TL's and Omnicity's which aren't now if I'm right and most those are stuck on the 35/35A now anyway at Ashington.
Storx
10 Sep 2021, 7:52 pm #29

(10 Sep 2021, 7:46 pm)V514DFT Do any of the depots own anything that is Euro 6,because theyre gonna need to have Euro 6 buses when CAZ takes effect

The majority of Northumbria's fleet.

All Gemini 2's
The Max Pulsars at Blyth
Believe all the Pulsars at Jesmond
Some Solos at Jesmond, not sure which.
Jesmond Streetlites
Believe all the Enviro 400 (MMC)'s - not 100% sure there.
The X12 Pulsars

There's only the B7TL's and Omnicity's which aren't now if I'm right and most those are stuck on the 35/35A now anyway at Ashington.

mb134



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10 Sep 2021, 8:01 pm #30
(10 Sep 2021, 7:52 pm)Storx There's only the B7TL's and Omnicity's which aren't now if I'm right and most those are stuck on the 35/35A now anyway at Ashington.

On paper yes, but 7446 has been allowed out far past its usual bedtime today.
mb134
10 Sep 2021, 8:01 pm #30

(10 Sep 2021, 7:52 pm)Storx There's only the B7TL's and Omnicity's which aren't now if I'm right and most those are stuck on the 35/35A now anyway at Ashington.

On paper yes, but 7446 has been allowed out far past its usual bedtime today.

Storx



4,481
10 Sep 2021, 8:13 pm #31
(10 Sep 2021, 8:01 pm)mb134 On paper yes, but 7446 has been allowed out far past its usual bedtime today.

Aye I seen that again like, mind honestly surprised it's only 1 the way Ashington has been the past few months.
Storx
10 Sep 2021, 8:13 pm #31

(10 Sep 2021, 8:01 pm)mb134 On paper yes, but 7446 has been allowed out far past its usual bedtime today.

Aye I seen that again like, mind honestly surprised it's only 1 the way Ashington has been the past few months.

mb134



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10 Sep 2021, 8:20 pm #32
(10 Sep 2021, 8:13 pm)Storx Aye I seen that again like, mind honestly surprised it's only 1 the way Ashington has been the past few months.

Swapped at Ashington for 7543. 

Generally the evening Sapphire allocation is fully MMC, though if this isn't the case early evening then things are swapped around far earlier than today - that said it's possible that a breakdown or another vehicle swap needed to happen with higher importance the last time 7446 was at Ashington. If any of the Volvo's were to stay out all day (which on paper should never happen), 7484 or 7486 would be the more logical options despite their increased age.
mb134
10 Sep 2021, 8:20 pm #32

(10 Sep 2021, 8:13 pm)Storx Aye I seen that again like, mind honestly surprised it's only 1 the way Ashington has been the past few months.

Swapped at Ashington for 7543. 

Generally the evening Sapphire allocation is fully MMC, though if this isn't the case early evening then things are swapped around far earlier than today - that said it's possible that a breakdown or another vehicle swap needed to happen with higher importance the last time 7446 was at Ashington. If any of the Volvo's were to stay out all day (which on paper should never happen), 7484 or 7486 would be the more logical options despite their increased age.

L469 YVK



3,544
10 Sep 2021, 10:07 pm #33
(10 Sep 2021, 7:52 pm)Storx The majority of Northumbria's fleet.

All Gemini 2's
The Max Pulsars at Blyth
Believe all the Pulsars at Jesmond
Some Solos at Jesmond, not sure which.
Jesmond Streetlites
Believe all the Enviro 400 (MMC)'s - not 100% sure there.
The X12 Pulsars

There's only the B7TL's and Omnicity's which aren't now if I'm right and most those are stuck on the 35/35A now anyway at Ashington.
MMC's are definitely Euro 6
L469 YVK
10 Sep 2021, 10:07 pm #33

(10 Sep 2021, 7:52 pm)Storx The majority of Northumbria's fleet.

All Gemini 2's
The Max Pulsars at Blyth
Believe all the Pulsars at Jesmond
Some Solos at Jesmond, not sure which.
Jesmond Streetlites
Believe all the Enviro 400 (MMC)'s - not 100% sure there.
The X12 Pulsars

There's only the B7TL's and Omnicity's which aren't now if I'm right and most those are stuck on the 35/35A now anyway at Ashington.
MMC's are definitely Euro 6

L469 YVK



3,544
10 Sep 2021, 10:18 pm #34
(10 Sep 2021, 3:00 pm)54APhotography The X12 used to have deckers, and occasionally still chucks up an E400. As with all speculation or desire there is little prospect of anything new or cascaded. The sale of the whole company causes no end of problems with monopolies, and it just drags on and on. The more time passes the less attractive the business and the less willing to replace en-masse the prospective suitors.
I doubt it would be sold as a whole.

No doubt GNE would want Ashington though. Fits right in with their strategy including XLines.

Assetwise, they'd have a number of E400 / E400MMCs that could be put to good use either at Ashington, or perhaps elsewhere if they invested in the X14/X15/X18/X20.
L469 YVK
10 Sep 2021, 10:18 pm #34

(10 Sep 2021, 3:00 pm)54APhotography The X12 used to have deckers, and occasionally still chucks up an E400. As with all speculation or desire there is little prospect of anything new or cascaded. The sale of the whole company causes no end of problems with monopolies, and it just drags on and on. The more time passes the less attractive the business and the less willing to replace en-masse the prospective suitors.
I doubt it would be sold as a whole.

No doubt GNE would want Ashington though. Fits right in with their strategy including XLines.

Assetwise, they'd have a number of E400 / E400MMCs that could be put to good use either at Ashington, or perhaps elsewhere if they invested in the X14/X15/X18/X20.

Storx



4,481
11 Sep 2021, 10:40 am #35
(10 Sep 2021, 8:20 pm)mb134 Swapped at Ashington for 7543. 

Generally the evening Sapphire allocation is fully MMC, though if this isn't the case early evening then things are swapped around far earlier than today - that said it's possible that a breakdown or another vehicle swap needed to happen with higher importance the last time 7446 was at Ashington. If any of the Volvo's were to stay out all day (which on paper should never happen), 7484 or 7486 would be the more logical options  despite their increased age.

Aye definitely seen one of the MMC's managed to get itself on the 57 last night so no doubt just bad allocating again. Agreed on the two old Volvo's rather than the shot ALX 400's which were awful when they were at Jesmond years ago nevermind now. They really should be allocated to easier work rather than Ashington imo.

(10 Sep 2021, 10:07 pm)L469 YVK MMC's are definitely Euro 6

Aye I knew they were it's the older ones not sure if Ashingtons have been done. I know they were doing the 57 plates at Jesmond though. They'll be done before the LEZ though I guess.
Storx
11 Sep 2021, 10:40 am #35

(10 Sep 2021, 8:20 pm)mb134 Swapped at Ashington for 7543. 

Generally the evening Sapphire allocation is fully MMC, though if this isn't the case early evening then things are swapped around far earlier than today - that said it's possible that a breakdown or another vehicle swap needed to happen with higher importance the last time 7446 was at Ashington. If any of the Volvo's were to stay out all day (which on paper should never happen), 7484 or 7486 would be the more logical options  despite their increased age.

Aye definitely seen one of the MMC's managed to get itself on the 57 last night so no doubt just bad allocating again. Agreed on the two old Volvo's rather than the shot ALX 400's which were awful when they were at Jesmond years ago nevermind now. They really should be allocated to easier work rather than Ashington imo.

(10 Sep 2021, 10:07 pm)L469 YVK MMC's are definitely Euro 6

Aye I knew they were it's the older ones not sure if Ashingtons have been done. I know they were doing the 57 plates at Jesmond though. They'll be done before the LEZ though I guess.

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