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Dan

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18 Oct 2022, 4:32 pm #161
(18 Oct 2022, 4:11 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Are they waiting until they get vandalised to move them??


The buses were vandalised a couple weeks ago. The site fully closes and keys handed back this Sunday, which is the reason they are moving.


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Dan
18 Oct 2022, 4:32 pm #161

(18 Oct 2022, 4:11 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Are they waiting until they get vandalised to move them??


The buses were vandalised a couple weeks ago. The site fully closes and keys handed back this Sunday, which is the reason they are moving.


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18 Oct 2022, 4:35 pm #162
(18 Oct 2022, 4:32 pm)Dan The buses were vandalised a couple weeks ago. The site fully closes and keys handed back this Sunday, which is the reason they are moving.


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Have they flogged it already?
streetdeckfan
18 Oct 2022, 4:35 pm #162

(18 Oct 2022, 4:32 pm)Dan The buses were vandalised a couple weeks ago. The site fully closes and keys handed back this Sunday, which is the reason they are moving.


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Have they flogged it already?

cbma06



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18 Oct 2022, 4:39 pm #163
(18 Oct 2022, 4:35 pm)streetdeckfan Have they flogged it already?


Wonder if it was just leased?


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cbma06
18 Oct 2022, 4:39 pm #163

(18 Oct 2022, 4:35 pm)streetdeckfan Have they flogged it already?


Wonder if it was just leased?


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Unber43



3,566
18 Oct 2022, 5:49 pm #164
So with GNE losing the contracts for the 40/40A etc where are the brand new 18 plate Solos going?


Also another thing I noticed is the prices of tickets have been scrubbed off buses
Unber43
18 Oct 2022, 5:49 pm #164

So with GNE losing the contracts for the 40/40A etc where are the brand new 18 plate Solos going?


Also another thing I noticed is the prices of tickets have been scrubbed off buses

18 Oct 2022, 6:08 pm #165
(18 Oct 2022, 5:49 pm)Unber43 So with GNE losing the contracts for the 40/40A etc where are the brand new 18 plate Solos going?


Also another thing I noticed is the prices of tickets have been scrubbed off buses

When you say brand new, you mean buses that are 4 years old, so basically already at the half-way point
streetdeckfan
18 Oct 2022, 6:08 pm #165

(18 Oct 2022, 5:49 pm)Unber43 So with GNE losing the contracts for the 40/40A etc where are the brand new 18 plate Solos going?


Also another thing I noticed is the prices of tickets have been scrubbed off buses

When you say brand new, you mean buses that are 4 years old, so basically already at the half-way point

18 Oct 2022, 7:33 pm #166
Are 6184/86/87 off the road at the minute or is bustimes telling fibs?

Are any of the G2s other than 6228 in use on the 900s yet?

And I think this might've been answered before but is the reason 6901-19 are up for disposal ahead of older omnis solely because they are dual doored? Always thought 6901-19 batch were smart looking vehicles for some reason.
stagecoachbusdepot
18 Oct 2022, 7:33 pm #166

Are 6184/86/87 off the road at the minute or is bustimes telling fibs?

Are any of the G2s other than 6228 in use on the 900s yet?

And I think this might've been answered before but is the reason 6901-19 are up for disposal ahead of older omnis solely because they are dual doored? Always thought 6901-19 batch were smart looking vehicles for some reason.

morritt89



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19 Oct 2022, 6:29 am #167
(18 Oct 2022, 7:33 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Are 6184/86/87 off the road at the minute or is bustimes telling fibs?

Are any of the G2s other than 6228 in use on the 900s yet?

And I think this might've been answered before but is the reason 6901-19 are up for disposal ahead of older omnis solely because they are dual doored?  Always thought 6901-19 batch were smart looking vehicles for some reason.

6184 is smartly repainted at Deptford but hasn't been on the road in ages (if at all). It was missing the dash last week.
morritt89
19 Oct 2022, 6:29 am #167

(18 Oct 2022, 7:33 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Are 6184/86/87 off the road at the minute or is bustimes telling fibs?

Are any of the G2s other than 6228 in use on the 900s yet?

And I think this might've been answered before but is the reason 6901-19 are up for disposal ahead of older omnis solely because they are dual doored?  Always thought 6901-19 batch were smart looking vehicles for some reason.

6184 is smartly repainted at Deptford but hasn't been on the road in ages (if at all). It was missing the dash last week.

itsadam



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19 Oct 2022, 9:56 am #168
Does anyone know why pretty much all of their Enviro 400s were sat at Heworth yesterday?
itsadam
19 Oct 2022, 9:56 am #168

Does anyone know why pretty much all of their Enviro 400s were sat at Heworth yesterday?

19 Oct 2022, 10:07 am #169
(19 Oct 2022, 9:56 am)itsadam Does anyone know why pretty much all of their Enviro 400s were sat at Heworth yesterday?
Metro replacement terminus
Retro Nero
19 Oct 2022, 10:07 am #169

(19 Oct 2022, 9:56 am)itsadam Does anyone know why pretty much all of their Enviro 400s were sat at Heworth yesterday?
Metro replacement terminus

itsadam



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19 Oct 2022, 11:25 am #170
(19 Oct 2022, 10:07 am)Retro Nero Metro replacement terminus
Ah yes
itsadam
19 Oct 2022, 11:25 am #170

(19 Oct 2022, 10:07 am)Retro Nero Metro replacement terminus
Ah yes

Unber43



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20 Oct 2022, 8:44 pm #171
The state of GNE fleet at the moment is just in disarray. 

Its disgraceful tbf.

Everything is all over the place. Numerous examples.
Unber43
20 Oct 2022, 8:44 pm #171

The state of GNE fleet at the moment is just in disarray. 

Its disgraceful tbf.

Everything is all over the place. Numerous examples.

Michael



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23 Oct 2022, 9:53 am #172
Looks like Plymouth have acquired some Solo's

647, 649, 651, 693 and 722 are the first five to go. Will be followed up by another five, and potentially another 5-8 after that

From Dan on the North East Bus Enthusiasts Facebook page.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
23 Oct 2022, 9:53 am #172

Looks like Plymouth have acquired some Solo's

647, 649, 651, 693 and 722 are the first five to go. Will be followed up by another five, and potentially another 5-8 after that

From Dan on the North East Bus Enthusiasts Facebook page.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

peter



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23 Oct 2022, 3:09 pm #173
(18 Oct 2022, 5:49 pm)Unber43 So with GNE losing the contracts for the 40/40A etc where are the brand new 18 plate Solos going?


Also another thing I noticed is the prices of tickets have been scrubbed off buses

I wonder if 715/716 could be used on the 74 in Hexham as they're Euro 6
peter
23 Oct 2022, 3:09 pm #173

(18 Oct 2022, 5:49 pm)Unber43 So with GNE losing the contracts for the 40/40A etc where are the brand new 18 plate Solos going?


Also another thing I noticed is the prices of tickets have been scrubbed off buses

I wonder if 715/716 could be used on the 74 in Hexham as they're Euro 6

Unber43



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23 Oct 2022, 3:16 pm #174
(23 Oct 2022, 3:09 pm)peter I wonder if 715/716 could be used on the 74 in Hexham as they're Euro 6
You need atleast a PVR 5. 

684 - 3 
74 -1 
Spare - 1 

And I am pretty sure the 74 need a larger vehicles on Friday & Saturdays
Unber43
23 Oct 2022, 3:16 pm #174

(23 Oct 2022, 3:09 pm)peter I wonder if 715/716 could be used on the 74 in Hexham as they're Euro 6
You need atleast a PVR 5. 

684 - 3 
74 -1 
Spare - 1 

And I am pretty sure the 74 need a larger vehicles on Friday & Saturdays

peter



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23 Oct 2022, 3:58 pm #175
(23 Oct 2022, 3:16 pm)Unber43 You need atleast a PVR 5. 

684 - 3 
74 -1 
Spare - 1 

And I am pretty sure the 74 need a larger vehicles on Friday & Saturdays

I'm aware you'd need something separate for the 684...I only mentioned the 74. 

Currently the 684 interworks with the 680/688 using 3 Versa's and the AD122/687 using 3 Solo's. So they're either gonna have to re-do the interworking pattern and have the 684 standalone with the Versa's or perhaps they could use some of the 83XX Euro 6 examples. 

I don't know what passenger numbers are like on the 74 (I'm sure somebody on here must know  Wink ) depends on if a normal solo ever gets full on the 74, if not then the Cathedral bus solo's surely must be an option. Do you use the service yourself?
peter
23 Oct 2022, 3:58 pm #175

(23 Oct 2022, 3:16 pm)Unber43 You need atleast a PVR 5. 

684 - 3 
74 -1 
Spare - 1 

And I am pretty sure the 74 need a larger vehicles on Friday & Saturdays

I'm aware you'd need something separate for the 684...I only mentioned the 74. 

Currently the 684 interworks with the 680/688 using 3 Versa's and the AD122/687 using 3 Solo's. So they're either gonna have to re-do the interworking pattern and have the 684 standalone with the Versa's or perhaps they could use some of the 83XX Euro 6 examples. 

I don't know what passenger numbers are like on the 74 (I'm sure somebody on here must know  Wink ) depends on if a normal solo ever gets full on the 74, if not then the Cathedral bus solo's surely must be an option. Do you use the service yourself?

Unber43



3,566
23 Oct 2022, 4:02 pm #176
(23 Oct 2022, 3:58 pm)peter I'm aware you'd need something separate for the 684...I only mentioned the 74. 

Currently the 684 interworks with the 680/688 using 3 Versa's and the AD122/687 using 3 Solo's. So they're either gonna have to re-do the interworking pattern and have the 684 standalone with the Versa's or perhaps they could use some of the 83XX Euro 6 examples. 

I don't know what passenger numbers are like on the 74 (I'm sure somebody on here must know  Wink ) depends on if a normal solo ever gets full on the 74, if not then the Cathedral bus solo's surely must be an option. Do you use the service yourself?
No, however I remember someone mentioning that it used to be ran by a Sprinter during the week, but had to be upgraded to a Solo on a Saturday.
Unber43
23 Oct 2022, 4:02 pm #176

(23 Oct 2022, 3:58 pm)peter I'm aware you'd need something separate for the 684...I only mentioned the 74. 

Currently the 684 interworks with the 680/688 using 3 Versa's and the AD122/687 using 3 Solo's. So they're either gonna have to re-do the interworking pattern and have the 684 standalone with the Versa's or perhaps they could use some of the 83XX Euro 6 examples. 

I don't know what passenger numbers are like on the 74 (I'm sure somebody on here must know  Wink ) depends on if a normal solo ever gets full on the 74, if not then the Cathedral bus solo's surely must be an option. Do you use the service yourself?
No, however I remember someone mentioning that it used to be ran by a Sprinter during the week, but had to be upgraded to a Solo on a Saturday.

peter



993
23 Oct 2022, 6:39 pm #177
(23 Oct 2022, 4:02 pm)Unber43 No, however I remember someone mentioning that it used to be ran by a Sprinter during the week, but had to be upgraded to a Solo on a Saturday.

The Sprinter has 16 seats, the Cathedral Solo's 23 seats and the Tynedale Links Solo's 29 seats - I doubt a Solo is full and standing on a Friday/Saturday so the Cathedral Solo would be the perfect medium between being a smaller vehicle to meet weekday demand but enough seats for the busier Friday/Saturday loads.
peter
23 Oct 2022, 6:39 pm #177

(23 Oct 2022, 4:02 pm)Unber43 No, however I remember someone mentioning that it used to be ran by a Sprinter during the week, but had to be upgraded to a Solo on a Saturday.

The Sprinter has 16 seats, the Cathedral Solo's 23 seats and the Tynedale Links Solo's 29 seats - I doubt a Solo is full and standing on a Friday/Saturday so the Cathedral Solo would be the perfect medium between being a smaller vehicle to meet weekday demand but enough seats for the busier Friday/Saturday loads.

Unber43



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23 Oct 2022, 6:45 pm #178
What are the loads of the 684? Does anyone know as if they're low the 3 Smaller Catherdral Solos could operate on them routes, leaving the 74 with something else if needed.
Unber43
23 Oct 2022, 6:45 pm #178

What are the loads of the 684? Does anyone know as if they're low the 3 Smaller Catherdral Solos could operate on them routes, leaving the 74 with something else if needed.

Dan

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23 Oct 2022, 7:07 pm #179
(23 Oct 2022, 6:45 pm)Unber43 What are the loads of the 684? Does anyone know as if they're low the 3 Smaller Catherdral Solos could operate on them routes, leaving the 74 with something else if needed.


I’d be very surprised if a service that was being allocated brand new double-decks twelve months ago now had passenger numbers so low that it could be allocated a mini Solo.


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Dan
23 Oct 2022, 7:07 pm #179

(23 Oct 2022, 6:45 pm)Unber43 What are the loads of the 684? Does anyone know as if they're low the 3 Smaller Catherdral Solos could operate on them routes, leaving the 74 with something else if needed.


I’d be very surprised if a service that was being allocated brand new double-decks twelve months ago now had passenger numbers so low that it could be allocated a mini Solo.


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Unber43



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23 Oct 2022, 7:14 pm #180
(23 Oct 2022, 7:07 pm)Dan I’d be very surprised if a service that was being allocated brand new double-decks twelve months ago now had passenger numbers so low that it could be allocated a mini Solo.


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X84/X85 had brand new double-deckers which were only because they were spare, I think they were orginally meant to get the old X21's. 

However the 684 I've never seen it busy and tbf a mini solo just had 6 less seats than a regular solo. The X85 from Eldon Square carries a decent load, really it should be upgraded to a decker running off a school contract.
Unber43
23 Oct 2022, 7:14 pm #180

(23 Oct 2022, 7:07 pm)Dan I’d be very surprised if a service that was being allocated brand new double-decks twelve months ago now had passenger numbers so low that it could be allocated a mini Solo.


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X84/X85 had brand new double-deckers which were only because they were spare, I think they were orginally meant to get the old X21's. 

However the 684 I've never seen it busy and tbf a mini solo just had 6 less seats than a regular solo. The X85 from Eldon Square carries a decent load, really it should be upgraded to a decker running off a school contract.

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