GNE Questions about fleet withdrawals/buses VOR/fleet questions
GNE Questions about fleet withdrawals/buses VOR/fleet questions
Does this mean there's zero chance that 6969 will be a nice bus?
(26 Jul 2023, 9:28 am)streetdeckfan Does this mean there's zero chance that 6969 will be a nice bus?
(26 Jul 2023, 9:28 am)streetdeckfan Does this mean there's zero chance that 6969 will be a nice bus?
(26 Jul 2023, 9:42 am)Michael 100%
What are the Olympus bodied ADLs like, never actually been on one?
(26 Jul 2023, 9:42 am)Michael 100%
What are the Olympus bodied ADLs like, never actually been on one?
(26 Jul 2023, 10:17 am)mb134 Can't comment on the ADL part of it, but the Olympus bodied B9s that Stagecoach Bluebird operated were beyond horrendous. Reliability was an issue sure, but the bodywork seemed very poorly put together.
The interiors of those were also pretty grim, everything from the lighting to the seats made for a pretty unpleasant passenger experience.
(26 Jul 2023, 10:17 am)mb134 Can't comment on the ADL part of it, but the Olympus bodied B9s that Stagecoach Bluebird operated were beyond horrendous. Reliability was an issue sure, but the bodywork seemed very poorly put together.
The interiors of those were also pretty grim, everything from the lighting to the seats made for a pretty unpleasant passenger experience.
(26 Jul 2023, 10:22 am)Storx They're East Lanc buses as far as I'm aware rather than Optare which probably says enough considering Arriva's 57 Plates were withdrawn well before they were expected to and similar the Scania N113's beforehand which were as bad.
They're not exactly well known for good bodywork before they went bust.
If these do turn up GNE aren't half getting some crap lately, other operators who's name I've already mentioned in this post would be rightly getting criticised if they were sending rubbish like this up.
(26 Jul 2023, 10:22 am)Storx They're East Lanc buses as far as I'm aware rather than Optare which probably says enough considering Arriva's 57 Plates were withdrawn well before they were expected to and similar the Scania N113's beforehand which were as bad.
They're not exactly well known for good bodywork before they went bust.
If these do turn up GNE aren't half getting some crap lately, other operators who's name I've already mentioned in this post would be rightly getting criticised if they were sending rubbish like this up.
(26 Jul 2023, 10:22 am)Storx They're East Lanc buses as far as I'm aware rather than Optare which probably says enough considering Arriva's 57 Plates were withdrawn well before they were expected to and similar the Scania N113's beforehand which were as bad.If such vehicles do join the GNE fleet presumably they will replace the 03, 04 & 54 registration Scania OmniDekka.
They're not exactly well known for good bodywork before they went bust.
If these do turn up GNE aren't half getting some crap lately, other operators who's name I've already mentioned in this post would be rightly getting criticised if they were sending rubbish like this up.
(26 Jul 2023, 10:22 am)Storx They're East Lanc buses as far as I'm aware rather than Optare which probably says enough considering Arriva's 57 Plates were withdrawn well before they were expected to and similar the Scania N113's beforehand which were as bad.If such vehicles do join the GNE fleet presumably they will replace the 03, 04 & 54 registration Scania OmniDekka.
They're not exactly well known for good bodywork before they went bust.
If these do turn up GNE aren't half getting some crap lately, other operators who's name I've already mentioned in this post would be rightly getting criticised if they were sending rubbish like this up.
(26 Jul 2023, 10:24 am)streetdeckfan They look like they would have already been end of life 20 years ago
(26 Jul 2023, 10:29 am)busmanT If such vehicles do join the GNE fleet presumably they will replace the 03, 04 & 54 registration Scania OmniDekka.
(26 Jul 2023, 10:24 am)streetdeckfan They look like they would have already been end of life 20 years ago
(26 Jul 2023, 10:29 am)busmanT If such vehicles do join the GNE fleet presumably they will replace the 03, 04 & 54 registration Scania OmniDekka.
(26 Jul 2023, 10:22 am)Storx They're East Lanc buses as far as I'm aware rather than Optare
(26 Jul 2023, 10:22 am)Storx They're East Lanc buses as far as I'm aware rather than Optare
(26 Jul 2023, 9:18 am)Michael More shi**
(26 Jul 2023, 9:18 am)Michael More shi**
(26 Jul 2023, 10:44 am)Rapidsnap They were built after Optare took over East Lancs so known as Optare Olympus. Here's a pair still displaying their Optare badging https://flic.kr/p/2mukkXp
(26 Jul 2023, 10:44 am)Rapidsnap They were built after Optare took over East Lancs so known as Optare Olympus. Here's a pair still displaying their Optare badging https://flic.kr/p/2mukkXp
(26 Jul 2023, 1:08 pm)V514DFT More second hand shiteExactly what buses do you expect a company that lost £4.5m in the last published annual accounts to acquire??
(26 Jul 2023, 1:08 pm)V514DFT More second hand shiteExactly what buses do you expect a company that lost £4.5m in the last published annual accounts to acquire??
The Hydrogen fleet at Metrobus in Crawley won't be cheap, and the bid for Fast Track in Kent around Bluewater probably wasn't cheap either.
Also if Go-Ahead London want to keep winning / retain contracts London, then they have to go down the Electric Vehicle route which ain't cheap as Electric vehicle development is always evolving.
(26 Jul 2023, 6:06 pm)busmanT Exactly what buses do you expect a company that lost £4.5m in the last published annual accounts to acquire??
There appears to be a lot more internal transfer of buses within Go Ahead Group than ever before.
Perhaps the new owners have a different outlook on capital investment, or London is taking up a lot of the available money (I recall a recent announcement of another 141 electric buses for London this year).
(26 Jul 2023, 6:06 pm)busmanT Exactly what buses do you expect a company that lost £4.5m in the last published annual accounts to acquire??
There appears to be a lot more internal transfer of buses within Go Ahead Group than ever before.
Perhaps the new owners have a different outlook on capital investment, or London is taking up a lot of the available money (I recall a recent announcement of another 141 electric buses for London this year).
(26 Jul 2023, 7:40 pm)Storx Usually when you displace stuff, then you'd send stuff up which have a few years life in them. Arriva were good for it until recently with things like the 55 plates B7's which turned up in 2016 or the 51/52 plate B7's in 2013/14 so still have 5 or year left on paper - obviously some are still here but that's another debate and all had a full refurb so they were as new.
15 year old buses should be getting withdrawn, not sent to the provincial fleets, especially non-standard ones which are still in GoAhead London interior.
(26 Jul 2023, 7:40 pm)Storx Usually when you displace stuff, then you'd send stuff up which have a few years life in them. Arriva were good for it until recently with things like the 55 plates B7's which turned up in 2016 or the 51/52 plate B7's in 2013/14 so still have 5 or year left on paper - obviously some are still here but that's another debate and all had a full refurb so they were as new.
15 year old buses should be getting withdrawn, not sent to the provincial fleets, especially non-standard ones which are still in GoAhead London interior.
(26 Jul 2023, 7:40 pm)Storx Usually when you displace stuff, then you'd send stuff up which have a few years life in them. Arriva were good for it until recently with things like the 55 plates B7's which turned up in 2016 or the 51/52 plate B7's in 2013/14 so still have 5 or year left on paper - obviously some are still here but that's another debate and all had a full refurb so they were as new.
15 year old buses should be getting withdrawn, not sent to the provincial fleets, especially non-standard ones which are still in GoAhead London interior.
(26 Jul 2023, 7:40 pm)Storx Usually when you displace stuff, then you'd send stuff up which have a few years life in them. Arriva were good for it until recently with things like the 55 plates B7's which turned up in 2016 or the 51/52 plate B7's in 2013/14 so still have 5 or year left on paper - obviously some are still here but that's another debate and all had a full refurb so they were as new.
15 year old buses should be getting withdrawn, not sent to the provincial fleets, especially non-standard ones which are still in GoAhead London interior.
(26 Jul 2023, 8:23 pm)Dan Doesn’t GNE operate a fleet of 50 dedicated school only buses?
You’re never going to get anything much newer than life-expired for school contracts in the North East, other than perhaps County Durham where some coach operators can tie a school in with some other work.
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(26 Jul 2023, 8:23 pm)Dan Doesn’t GNE operate a fleet of 50 dedicated school only buses?
You’re never going to get anything much newer than life-expired for school contracts in the North East, other than perhaps County Durham where some coach operators can tie a school in with some other work.
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(26 Jul 2023, 8:44 pm)Storx Isn't that what the B9's and Enviro 400's were brought up here for? I don't know that's a question btw.
or has there been a change in heart at some point and some of them are now going into frontline but they're a bit old now really aswell especially since GoAhead sold off a bunch of 11 plates which appeared to end up at Lothian.
(26 Jul 2023, 8:44 pm)Storx Isn't that what the B9's and Enviro 400's were brought up here for? I don't know that's a question btw.
or has there been a change in heart at some point and some of them are now going into frontline but they're a bit old now really aswell especially since GoAhead sold off a bunch of 11 plates which appeared to end up at Lothian.
