North East BSIP: £804 Million Pound Plan For North East Buses
North East BSIP: £804 Million Pound Plan For North East Buses
I ordered my Magpie Mover this week, embracing the new age of digital technology with my digital season ticket and all the bus operators having their own fancy apps. What could Network ticketing offer up? A smart card? A qr code….
What arrives…a cheap bit of laminated cardboard
It’s like living in the dark ages
(07 Aug 2023, 9:23 pm)Ambassador I ordered my Magpie Mover this week, embracing the new age of digital technology with my digital season ticket and all the bus operators having their own fancy apps. What could Network ticketing offer up? A smart card? A qr code….
What arrives…a cheap bit of laminated cardboard
It’s like living in the dark ages
(07 Aug 2023, 9:23 pm)Ambassador I ordered my Magpie Mover this week, embracing the new age of digital technology with my digital season ticket and all the bus operators having their own fancy apps. What could Network ticketing offer up? A smart card? A qr code….
What arrives…a cheap bit of laminated cardboard
It’s like living in the dark ages
(07 Aug 2023, 9:23 pm)Ambassador I ordered my Magpie Mover this week, embracing the new age of digital technology with my digital season ticket and all the bus operators having their own fancy apps. What could Network ticketing offer up? A smart card? A qr code….
What arrives…a cheap bit of laminated cardboard
It’s like living in the dark ages
(07 Aug 2023, 9:23 pm)Ambassador I ordered my Magpie Mover this week, embracing the new age of digital technology with my digital season ticket and all the bus operators having their own fancy apps. What could Network ticketing offer up? A smart card? A qr code….
What arrives…a cheap bit of laminated cardboard
It’s like living in the dark ages
(08 Aug 2023, 12:54 pm)streetdeckfan At least a cheap bit of laminated cardboard can't run out of battery or have server issues!
I still think they need to put just as much effort into smart cards as they do their apps. If there's one thing I can't stand is having to use apps for everything!
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(08 Aug 2023, 12:54 pm)streetdeckfan At least a cheap bit of laminated cardboard can't run out of battery or have server issues!
I still think they need to put just as much effort into smart cards as they do their apps. If there's one thing I can't stand is having to use apps for everything!
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(08 Aug 2023, 2:27 pm)Adrian No, but it can get lost/stolen, and then continue to be used by someone for the rest of the season.
At least with a digital card, you can cancel one that is reported lost/stolen, and provide the user with a replacement.
(08 Aug 2023, 2:27 pm)Adrian No, but it can get lost/stolen, and then continue to be used by someone for the rest of the season.
At least with a digital card, you can cancel one that is reported lost/stolen, and provide the user with a replacement.
(08 Aug 2023, 4:09 pm)Storx In fairness, if it used a QR code, you should in theory be able to void the first code and issue a new one.
Obviously reality and what should be possible are usually two totally different things when it comes to things relating to buses.
(08 Aug 2023, 4:09 pm)Storx In fairness, if it used a QR code, you should in theory be able to void the first code and issue a new one.
Obviously reality and what should be possible are usually two totally different things when it comes to things relating to buses.
(09 Aug 2023, 9:30 am)Adrian Yeah, but they don't use a QR code as far as I'm aware? Even if they did, it'd only be GNE and Arriva buses that could scan them; there'd be nothing stopping you using Stagecoach, the Metro or other Nexus funded bus services.
(09 Aug 2023, 9:30 am)Adrian Yeah, but they don't use a QR code as far as I'm aware? Even if they did, it'd only be GNE and Arriva buses that could scan them; there'd be nothing stopping you using Stagecoach, the Metro or other Nexus funded bus services.
(09 Aug 2023, 9:30 am)Adrian Yeah, but they don't use a QR code as far as I'm aware? Even if they did, it'd only be GNE and Arriva buses that could scan them; there'd be nothing stopping you using Stagecoach, the Metro or other Nexus funded bus services.
(09 Aug 2023, 9:30 am)Adrian Yeah, but they don't use a QR code as far as I'm aware? Even if they did, it'd only be GNE and Arriva buses that could scan them; there'd be nothing stopping you using Stagecoach, the Metro or other Nexus funded bus services.
(09 Aug 2023, 1:49 pm)Rob44 is that why loads of customers just show there phone with the QR code viable to SCNE drivers?
(09 Aug 2023, 1:49 pm)Rob44 is that why loads of customers just show there phone with the QR code viable to SCNE drivers?
(09 Aug 2023, 1:49 pm)Rob44 is that why loads of customers just show there phone with the QR code viable to SCNE drivers?
(09 Aug 2023, 1:49 pm)Rob44 is that why loads of customers just show there phone with the QR code viable to SCNE drivers?
(09 Aug 2023, 7:40 pm)F114TML Yes, and it's strangely amusing watching the ones that don't realise we don't have scanners.
I once had someone try to ram their phone in the bit the ticket comes out of. Someone else gave the machine a full on massage with a Stagecoach Dayrider as well, which, I'll be honest, was slightly terrifying.
(09 Aug 2023, 7:40 pm)F114TML Yes, and it's strangely amusing watching the ones that don't realise we don't have scanners.
I once had someone try to ram their phone in the bit the ticket comes out of. Someone else gave the machine a full on massage with a Stagecoach Dayrider as well, which, I'll be honest, was slightly terrifying.
(09 Aug 2023, 6:53 pm)Adrian Yes. No facility to scan on the Vix ETMs that Stagecoach use.
Although GNE and Arriva both use Ticketer with the QR code scanning, but they don't share the hashes with each other, even for Network One. So something that should be simple, you still have to rely on manual checking of the ticket.
(09 Aug 2023, 6:53 pm)Adrian Yes. No facility to scan on the Vix ETMs that Stagecoach use.
Although GNE and Arriva both use Ticketer with the QR code scanning, but they don't share the hashes with each other, even for Network One. So something that should be simple, you still have to rely on manual checking of the ticket.
(10 Aug 2023, 9:50 am)busmanT And for the new BSIP multi modal tickets there is the problem of tickets issued from Metro machines not have QR codes and barriers not accepting QR code bus tickets.
On the Coast Road Arriva QR codes certainly scan of GNE buses.
(10 Aug 2023, 9:50 am)busmanT And for the new BSIP multi modal tickets there is the problem of tickets issued from Metro machines not have QR codes and barriers not accepting QR code bus tickets.
On the Coast Road Arriva QR codes certainly scan of GNE buses.
(10 Aug 2023, 10:27 am)Adrian This is what happens when everybody does their own thing, rather than having any level of joined up thinking.
There should be nothing stopping the BSIP multi-modal tickets being issued via the POP Pay As You Go scheme, developed under NESTi? According to the press release years ago now, this is exactly what it is supposed to do: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/smart...north-east
Having the BSIP tickets setup as a day cap for the value of each ticket and zone, and if anything, it'd be a lot more flexible to those using them. As we've seen with the Metro, the card can either be physical or virtual.
The Coast Road QR scanning is relatively new, but as I commented in that thread, it should act as a proof of concept of a wider scheme being delivered. Network One tickets, incl. Day Rovers and Explorers don't scan on other operators services throughout the region, and as you point out, there's no facility to scan them on the Metro.
(10 Aug 2023, 10:27 am)Adrian This is what happens when everybody does their own thing, rather than having any level of joined up thinking.
There should be nothing stopping the BSIP multi-modal tickets being issued via the POP Pay As You Go scheme, developed under NESTi? According to the press release years ago now, this is exactly what it is supposed to do: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/smart...north-east
Having the BSIP tickets setup as a day cap for the value of each ticket and zone, and if anything, it'd be a lot more flexible to those using them. As we've seen with the Metro, the card can either be physical or virtual.
The Coast Road QR scanning is relatively new, but as I commented in that thread, it should act as a proof of concept of a wider scheme being delivered. Network One tickets, incl. Day Rovers and Explorers don't scan on other operators services throughout the region, and as you point out, there's no facility to scan them on the Metro.
(09 Aug 2023, 7:40 pm)F114TML Yes, and it's strangely amusing watching the ones that don't realise we don't have scanners.
I once had someone try to ram their phone in the bit the ticket comes out of. Someone else gave the machine a full on massage with a Stagecoach Dayrider as well, which, I'll be honest, was slightly terrifying.
(09 Aug 2023, 7:40 pm)F114TML Yes, and it's strangely amusing watching the ones that don't realise we don't have scanners.
I once had someone try to ram their phone in the bit the ticket comes out of. Someone else gave the machine a full on massage with a Stagecoach Dayrider as well, which, I'll be honest, was slightly terrifying.
(10 Aug 2023, 10:27 am)Adrian The Coast Road QR scanning is relatively new, but as I commented in that thread, it should act as a proof of concept of a wider scheme being delivered. Network One tickets, incl. Day Rovers and Explorers don't scan on other operators services throughout the region, and as you point out, there's no facility to scan them on the Metro.
(10 Aug 2023, 10:27 am)Adrian The Coast Road QR scanning is relatively new, but as I commented in that thread, it should act as a proof of concept of a wider scheme being delivered. Network One tickets, incl. Day Rovers and Explorers don't scan on other operators services throughout the region, and as you point out, there's no facility to scan them on the Metro.
(10 Aug 2023, 10:33 am)streetdeckfan It seems like they developed POP and then abandoned it completely.
GNE should have abandoned the Key and moved the tickets over to using the POP cards, same with Arriva (and potentially Stagecoach, do they use a smart card?)
Now that I've got used to using Tap on Tap off on Arriva, I just can't stand using either the GNE app to buy a ticket, or buying a day ticket on the bus (it inevitably gets ruined before the end of the day).
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(10 Aug 2023, 10:33 am)streetdeckfan It seems like they developed POP and then abandoned it completely.
GNE should have abandoned the Key and moved the tickets over to using the POP cards, same with Arriva (and potentially Stagecoach, do they use a smart card?)
Now that I've got used to using Tap on Tap off on Arriva, I just can't stand using either the GNE app to buy a ticket, or buying a day ticket on the bus (it inevitably gets ruined before the end of the day).
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(10 Aug 2023, 4:19 pm)Rob44 did you every get you claims sorted??
(10 Aug 2023, 4:19 pm)Rob44 did you every get you claims sorted??
(10 Aug 2023, 6:29 pm)streetdeckfan I didn't, and tbh I forgot to complain again!
(10 Aug 2023, 6:29 pm)streetdeckfan I didn't, and tbh I forgot to complain again!
