Night Buses
Night Buses
(22 Nov 2021, 8:36 pm)big mac What have the passenger numbers been like on the night buses since they were introduced?
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(23 Nov 2021, 9:53 pm)Andreos1 The 0330 21 off Newcastle was heaving apparently. Possibly due to the 0230 not running (allegedly).There never seems to be any night buses ever mentioned in the short term journey cancellations list.
(23 Nov 2021, 9:53 pm)Andreos1 The 0330 21 off Newcastle was heaving apparently. Possibly due to the 0230 not running (allegedly).There never seems to be any night buses ever mentioned in the short term journey cancellations list.
(24 Nov 2021, 9:07 pm)big mac There never seems to be any night buses ever mentioned in the short term journey cancellations list.I know there has been a few cancellations with the 56/60 once or twice. And I believe there has been N21's about 30 mins lates.
I'm sure they must have been cancelled at some point.
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(24 Nov 2021, 9:07 pm)big mac There never seems to be any night buses ever mentioned in the short term journey cancellations list.I know there has been a few cancellations with the 56/60 once or twice. And I believe there has been N21's about 30 mins lates.
I'm sure they must have been cancelled at some point.
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(24 Nov 2021, 9:07 pm)big mac There never seems to be any night buses ever mentioned in the short term journey cancellations list.
I'm sure they must have been cancelled at some point.
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(24 Nov 2021, 9:07 pm)big mac There never seems to be any night buses ever mentioned in the short term journey cancellations list.
I'm sure they must have been cancelled at some point.
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(24 Nov 2021, 10:17 pm)Andreos1 Certainly appears to have been the case on Saturday. According to eldest constantopolous anyway.
Huge crowds and vulnerable lasses waiting for over an hour in the town.
(24 Nov 2021, 10:17 pm)Andreos1 Certainly appears to have been the case on Saturday. According to eldest constantopolous anyway.
Huge crowds and vulnerable lasses waiting for over an hour in the town.
(25 Nov 2021, 10:11 am)citaro5284 There was one missed on Saturday, but nothing to do with the short term cancellations.
Due to Anti-social behaviour, a window was smashed in the Birtley area on its way into Newcastle.
(25 Nov 2021, 10:11 am)citaro5284 There was one missed on Saturday, but nothing to do with the short term cancellations.
Due to Anti-social behaviour, a window was smashed in the Birtley area on its way into Newcastle.
(25 Nov 2021, 10:11 am)citaro5284 There was one missed on Saturday, but nothing to do with the short term cancellations.
Due to Anti-social behaviour, a window was smashed in the Birtley area on its way into Newcastle.
(25 Nov 2021, 10:11 am)citaro5284 There was one missed on Saturday, but nothing to do with the short term cancellations.
Due to Anti-social behaviour, a window was smashed in the Birtley area on its way into Newcastle.
Do you not think that GNE maybe should have did I promotion for night buses for the 21, 56 & 60.
I saw something on FB about people not even knowing that there were night buses till last week and I wondered if especially with the 60 being one spare whether a livery, with the times it runs like Midnight till 5am would actually make people see it more than on Facebook.
It was the same when GNE put on the later X85’s.
Loads of people didn’t know they were running. No local leaflet drops, poster campaigns or adverts in the local paper.
there was an advert made but I never saw it on the tv, I think it may have been a YouTube only advert?
(29 Jun 2022, 1:13 am)Unber43 Do you not think that GNE maybe should have did I promotion for night buses for the 21, 56 & 60.I think they could definitely have made something really cool out of the new livery on the 56. Also im not sure if its been discussed already but how come the 56 and 60 just stayed the 56 and 60?
I saw something on FB about people not even knowing that there were night buses till last week and I wondered if especially with the 60 being one spare whether a livery, with the times it runs like Midnight till 5am would actually make people see it more than on Facebook.
(29 Jun 2022, 1:13 am)Unber43 Do you not think that GNE maybe should have did I promotion for night buses for the 21, 56 & 60.I think they could definitely have made something really cool out of the new livery on the 56. Also im not sure if its been discussed already but how come the 56 and 60 just stayed the 56 and 60?
I saw something on FB about people not even knowing that there were night buses till last week and I wondered if especially with the 60 being one spare whether a livery, with the times it runs like Midnight till 5am would actually make people see it more than on Facebook.
(29 Jun 2022, 7:22 am)ALavery I think they could definitely have made something really cool out of the new livery on the 56. Also im not sure if its been discussed already but how come the 56 and 60 just stayed the 56 and 60?Perhaps because the N21 goes to the University, and a different starting point in Newcastle, whereas with the 56 and 60, they just extended the timetable overnight, ergo no real need to change the number.
(29 Jun 2022, 7:22 am)ALavery I think they could definitely have made something really cool out of the new livery on the 56. Also im not sure if its been discussed already but how come the 56 and 60 just stayed the 56 and 60?Perhaps because the N21 goes to the University, and a different starting point in Newcastle, whereas with the 56 and 60, they just extended the timetable overnight, ergo no real need to change the number.
(29 Jun 2022, 7:22 am)ALavery I think they could definitely have made something really cool out of the new livery on the 56. Also im not sure if its been discussed already but how come the 56 and 60 just stayed the 56 and 60?No idea and to be honest, I'm not sure even the most optimistic members in here ever thought they would work.
(29 Jun 2022, 7:22 am)ALavery I think they could definitely have made something really cool out of the new livery on the 56. Also im not sure if its been discussed already but how come the 56 and 60 just stayed the 56 and 60?No idea and to be honest, I'm not sure even the most optimistic members in here ever thought they would work.
(29 Jun 2022, 2:04 pm)Andreos1 No idea and to be honest, I'm not sure even the most optimistic members in here ever thought they would work.
It needed to be a variation of both routes imo. Someone living in Seaham and working at Nissan could be at work within 10mins via the A19 - whether that's driving or using some sort of car share.
Two buses via the world ahead or at the end of a long shift, can't even begin to compete. Regardless of the branding or promotion attached to its livery.
(29 Jun 2022, 2:04 pm)Andreos1 No idea and to be honest, I'm not sure even the most optimistic members in here ever thought they would work.
It needed to be a variation of both routes imo. Someone living in Seaham and working at Nissan could be at work within 10mins via the A19 - whether that's driving or using some sort of car share.
Two buses via the world ahead or at the end of a long shift, can't even begin to compete. Regardless of the branding or promotion attached to its livery.
Night buses need looking at as a whole across the region... I'm sure that I've said it before, but bus operators struggle to meet the needs of those who travel late at night on Fridays and Saturdays, with roads heading out of the city almost as busy as during the day up until 2-3am, so what chance have they got at getting it right every other night?
I'm regularly driving around at night and there is some demand from looking at the numbers of cars and taxis on the road, not just for buses but for the likes of Metro too.
(29 Jun 2022, 5:03 pm)omnicity4659 Night buses need looking at as a whole across the region... I'm sure that I've said it before, but bus operators struggle to meet the needs of those who travel late at night on Fridays and Saturdays, with roads heading out of the city almost as busy as during the day up until 2-3am, so what chance have they got at getting it right every other night?
I'm regularly driving around at night and there is some demand from looking at the numbers of cars and taxis on the road, not just for buses but for the likes of Metro too.
(29 Jun 2022, 5:03 pm)omnicity4659 Night buses need looking at as a whole across the region... I'm sure that I've said it before, but bus operators struggle to meet the needs of those who travel late at night on Fridays and Saturdays, with roads heading out of the city almost as busy as during the day up until 2-3am, so what chance have they got at getting it right every other night?
I'm regularly driving around at night and there is some demand from looking at the numbers of cars and taxis on the road, not just for buses but for the likes of Metro too.
(29 Jun 2022, 4:35 pm)deanmachine Why? The 56 gets a good load over it's whole route over night, hence why it's still running mostly come the changes, seems to work.Aye, but they thought the 60 would work on a night.
(29 Jun 2022, 4:35 pm)deanmachine Why? The 56 gets a good load over it's whole route over night, hence why it's still running mostly come the changes, seems to work.Aye, but they thought the 60 would work on a night.
(29 Jun 2022, 6:10 pm)Andreos1 Aye, but they thought the 60 would work on a night.I'm suprised they havent tried a night bus 10, 27 or X1, espically the 27 seen as theres no night metros.
It was never going to work based on the route it takes and the places it goes to/goes through.
If there's enough people to make a bus from Seaham to Nissan work, then it needs to be as quick or there abouts as a car.
Whatever the N56 does right, isn't because of its marketing Its because of the route its taken since its 187/188 days and the fact Nissan was built where it was.
(29 Jun 2022, 6:10 pm)Andreos1 Aye, but they thought the 60 would work on a night.I'm suprised they havent tried a night bus 10, 27 or X1, espically the 27 seen as theres no night metros.
It was never going to work based on the route it takes and the places it goes to/goes through.
If there's enough people to make a bus from Seaham to Nissan work, then it needs to be as quick or there abouts as a car.
Whatever the N56 does right, isn't because of its marketing Its because of the route its taken since its 187/188 days and the fact Nissan was built where it was.
There's no demand for nightbuses imo. As a bus carrying 20 passengers won't pick up anyone up and has to get back to Newcastle or whatever no money there.
I know I've mentioned it before but it's the sort of place where DRT would work but not as it is now. Work it on the basis of you book a taxi, and it groups passengers going to same place or thereabouts and everyone gets the same minibus or a 7 seater if it's 3 of groups 2 etc. for a discounted price with further discounts for groups if they all go to the same stop similar to a taxi.
It's the halfway house and certainly better than what happens now where you have to wait 45 minutes where 20 taxis are going to Whitley Bay and back half the time carrying nothing.
(29 Jun 2022, 6:19 pm)ASX_Terranova I'm suprised they havent tried a night bus 10, 27 or X1, espically the 27 seen as theres no night metros.Where would the demand for those routes come from? Apart from the nighttime economy in Newcastle, they wouldn't pass by any major employers who have a 24hr operation - like Nissan or Amazon.
(29 Jun 2022, 6:19 pm)ASX_Terranova I'm suprised they havent tried a night bus 10, 27 or X1, espically the 27 seen as theres no night metros.Where would the demand for those routes come from? Apart from the nighttime economy in Newcastle, they wouldn't pass by any major employers who have a 24hr operation - like Nissan or Amazon.