X21 B5 reliability
X21 B5 reliability
(14 Dec 2021, 5:59 pm)6049 In all honesty, I don't see any reason when any bus should have an issue with the X21, other than that the StreetDecks which used to be on them seem to have been fairly problematic no matter where they've been put and as already mentioned, the B5s have been flogged on the X10 like the B9s were before that.The irony is that extra StreetDecks before COVID plus 6330-33 were to make up the PVR of the X21 when it was 12x alongside 6304-07.
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(14 Dec 2021, 5:59 pm)6049 In all honesty, I don't see any reason when any bus should have an issue with the X21, other than that the StreetDecks which used to be on them seem to have been fairly problematic no matter where they've been put and as already mentioned, the B5s have been flogged on the X10 like the B9s were before that.The irony is that extra StreetDecks before COVID plus 6330-33 were to make up the PVR of the X21 when it was 12x alongside 6304-07.
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I would have thought range would be an issue for electric vehicles on the x21. It's a long route.
(14 Dec 2021, 11:05 pm)BusLoverMum I would have thought range would be an issue for electric vehicles on the x21. It's a long route.
(14 Dec 2021, 11:05 pm)BusLoverMum I would have thought range would be an issue for electric vehicles on the x21. It's a long route.
(14 Dec 2021, 9:57 pm)L469 YVK The irony is that extra StreetDecks before COVID plus 6330-33 were to make up the PVR of the X21 when it was 12x alongside 6304-07.
But my argument given Consett's interworking patterns (evening 47/X30/X45/X72 and Sunday X30/X45/X46/X72) and the above initial order is that brand new StreetDecks are parked up in Consett depot during evenings & Sundays when they should be out on the road reducing running costs & making revenue.
Now if GNE used them (albeit diluting the XLines brand) on the Sunday 47/47A over fuel hungry B9TLs, that would make sense. But based on the September service changes, I would certainly opt from a cost based perspective to have Volvo B5TLs parked up during evenings & Sundays over brand new StreetDecks taking into account age, vehicle history and enhanced BSOG mileage. Not forgetting common decker fleet commonality across Washington & CLS depots.
(14 Dec 2021, 9:57 pm)L469 YVK The irony is that extra StreetDecks before COVID plus 6330-33 were to make up the PVR of the X21 when it was 12x alongside 6304-07.
But my argument given Consett's interworking patterns (evening 47/X30/X45/X72 and Sunday X30/X45/X46/X72) and the above initial order is that brand new StreetDecks are parked up in Consett depot during evenings & Sundays when they should be out on the road reducing running costs & making revenue.
Now if GNE used them (albeit diluting the XLines brand) on the Sunday 47/47A over fuel hungry B9TLs, that would make sense. But based on the September service changes, I would certainly opt from a cost based perspective to have Volvo B5TLs parked up during evenings & Sundays over brand new StreetDecks taking into account age, vehicle history and enhanced BSOG mileage. Not forgetting common decker fleet commonality across Washington & CLS depots.
(15 Dec 2021, 12:05 am)idiot Why are gas buses a failure.?I don't think Busyways see the Scania Gas as a failure, yes the drivers complain about their lack of grunt and hill climbing power, but the intention still seems to be long term gas is going to be concentrated on Sunderland. the £ per mile figures are what makes the accountants happy..
(15 Dec 2021, 12:05 am)idiot Why are gas buses a failure.?I don't think Busyways see the Scania Gas as a failure, yes the drivers complain about their lack of grunt and hill climbing power, but the intention still seems to be long term gas is going to be concentrated on Sunderland. the £ per mile figures are what makes the accountants happy..
(15 Dec 2021, 12:05 am)idiot Why are gas buses a failure.?
(15 Dec 2021, 12:05 am)idiot Why are gas buses a failure.?
(15 Dec 2021, 10:10 am)Storx Lack of any future orders, can't really say whether they will at Sunderland but long term it suggests it's a one time thing. Maybe they will at Sunderland but who knows yet.Problem is atm all these alternative fueled buses are still more expensive to buy than a conventional diesel so for the most part companies aren't getting them unless they receive funding from somewhere such as councils.
Darlington have already bought Diesel buses instead (Streetlites in 2017).
Then again I don't believe a single clean bus has been bought outright up here, unsure on the second batch of Yutongs coming.
(15 Dec 2021, 10:10 am)Storx Lack of any future orders, can't really say whether they will at Sunderland but long term it suggests it's a one time thing. Maybe they will at Sunderland but who knows yet.Problem is atm all these alternative fueled buses are still more expensive to buy than a conventional diesel so for the most part companies aren't getting them unless they receive funding from somewhere such as councils.
Darlington have already bought Diesel buses instead (Streetlites in 2017).
Then again I don't believe a single clean bus has been bought outright up here, unsure on the second batch of Yutongs coming.
(15 Dec 2021, 3:49 pm)Jimmi Problem is atm all these alternative fueled buses are still more expensive to buy than a conventional diesel so for the most part companies aren't getting them unless they receive funding from somewhere such as councils.Part of me wonders if the reason for them still being so expensive it's because of the grants available.
(15 Dec 2021, 3:49 pm)Jimmi Problem is atm all these alternative fueled buses are still more expensive to buy than a conventional diesel so for the most part companies aren't getting them unless they receive funding from somewhere such as councils.Part of me wonders if the reason for them still being so expensive it's because of the grants available.
(15 Dec 2021, 3:49 pm)Jimmi Problem is atm all these alternative fueled buses are still more expensive to buy than a conventional diesel so for the most part companies aren't getting them unless they receive funding from somewhere such as councils.
(15 Dec 2021, 3:49 pm)Jimmi Problem is atm all these alternative fueled buses are still more expensive to buy than a conventional diesel so for the most part companies aren't getting them unless they receive funding from somewhere such as councils.
(22 Jan 2022, 11:20 am)Omega54 There is only 3 branded ones on today.6310 will be off as it was involved in an incident at Croxdale last night.
(22 Jan 2022, 11:20 am)Omega54 There is only 3 branded ones on today.6310 will be off as it was involved in an incident at Croxdale last night.
(22 Jan 2022, 11:20 am)Omega54 There is only 3 branded ones on today.Is it actual reliability issues or just parts / labour shortages. If the latter, can't be helped.
(22 Jan 2022, 11:20 am)Omega54 There is only 3 branded ones on today.Is it actual reliability issues or just parts / labour shortages. If the latter, can't be helped.
(22 Jan 2022, 12:10 pm)L469 YVK Is it actual reliability issues or just parts / labour shortages. If the latter, can't be helped.They are releasing more streetdecks to Washington & CLS
But if the former, you'd hope GNE would address it either by re-allocations, other vehicles from other GAG subsidaries or in-line for an upgrade should new deckers ever get ordered, either new or suitable cascades.
(22 Jan 2022, 12:10 pm)L469 YVK Is it actual reliability issues or just parts / labour shortages. If the latter, can't be helped.They are releasing more streetdecks to Washington & CLS
But if the former, you'd hope GNE would address it either by re-allocations, other vehicles from other GAG subsidaries or in-line for an upgrade should new deckers ever get ordered, either new or suitable cascades.
(22 Jan 2022, 12:34 pm)Omega54 They are releasing more streetdecks to Washington & CLSThat's due to the ULEZ and ensuring that there are sufficient Euro 6 spares available.
(22 Jan 2022, 12:34 pm)Omega54 They are releasing more streetdecks to Washington & CLSThat's due to the ULEZ and ensuring that there are sufficient Euro 6 spares available.
(22 Jan 2022, 1:32 pm)Omega54 I thought i would put this in here as i regarded the X21, but there was a X21 which operated 2 hours late, arriving in West Aukland.Assuming this was yesterday? Believable considering the A1(M) was shut at Bowburn from about 10am yesterday morning until early this morning as a car went through the barriers on the flyover at junction 61 and landed on the central reservation with traffic being diverted via alternative routes, the main one being the A167 which was made worse by the temporary lights at Sunderland Bridge (Croxdale) with more incidents occurring in the evening including one at Croxdale involving 6310.
(22 Jan 2022, 1:32 pm)Omega54 I thought i would put this in here as i regarded the X21, but there was a X21 which operated 2 hours late, arriving in West Aukland.Assuming this was yesterday? Believable considering the A1(M) was shut at Bowburn from about 10am yesterday morning until early this morning as a car went through the barriers on the flyover at junction 61 and landed on the central reservation with traffic being diverted via alternative routes, the main one being the A167 which was made worse by the temporary lights at Sunderland Bridge (Croxdale) with more incidents occurring in the evening including one at Croxdale involving 6310.
(22 Jan 2022, 6:45 pm)Jimmi Assuming this was yesterday? Believable considering the A1(M) was shut at Bowburn from about 10am yesterday morning until early this morning as a car went through the barriers on the flyover at junction 61 and landed on the central reservation with traffic being diverted via alternative routes, the main one being the A167 which was made worse by the temporary lights at Sunderland Bridge (Croxdale) with more incidents occurring in the evening including one at Croxdale involving 6310.Yes it was. I hope the driver and everyone on 6310 is okay
(22 Jan 2022, 6:45 pm)Jimmi Assuming this was yesterday? Believable considering the A1(M) was shut at Bowburn from about 10am yesterday morning until early this morning as a car went through the barriers on the flyover at junction 61 and landed on the central reservation with traffic being diverted via alternative routes, the main one being the A167 which was made worse by the temporary lights at Sunderland Bridge (Croxdale) with more incidents occurring in the evening including one at Croxdale involving 6310.Yes it was. I hope the driver and everyone on 6310 is okay
(22 Jan 2022, 6:57 pm)Omega54 Yes it was. I hope the driver and everyone on 6310 is okaySadly, not
(22 Jan 2022, 6:57 pm)Omega54 Yes it was. I hope the driver and everyone on 6310 is okaySadly, not
(25 Jan 2022, 5:17 pm)BusLoverMum Sadly, notThat is a awful shame. I wonder if there will be any arrests, or if it was a pure accident.
Woman in 30s dies after being struck by bus in County Durham
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(25 Jan 2022, 5:17 pm)BusLoverMum Sadly, notThat is a awful shame. I wonder if there will be any arrests, or if it was a pure accident.
Woman in 30s dies after being struck by bus in County Durham
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