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27 Jan 2022, 1:05 pm #261
(24 Jan 2022, 5:49 pm)Omega54 If possible can someone confirm whether 6337 will be on the X84/85 on Wednesday

6337 is on the X84/X85 today. Might be tomorrow as well.
OrangeArrow49
27 Jan 2022, 1:05 pm #261

(24 Jan 2022, 5:49 pm)Omega54 If possible can someone confirm whether 6337 will be on the X84/85 on Wednesday

6337 is on the X84/X85 today. Might be tomorrow as well.

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27 Jan 2022, 3:54 pm #262
6353 standing in the sun at Riverside this afternoon after repaint into Xlines X10

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27 Jan 2022, 3:54 pm #262

6353 standing in the sun at Riverside this afternoon after repaint into Xlines X10

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28 Jan 2022, 5:33 pm #263
[Image: 51847831581_1750a652f9_z.jpg]Go North East 6353 / YX70 OKN by kieron mathews, on Flickr

6353 on road test earlier today passing Riverside
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28 Jan 2022, 5:33 pm #263

[Image: 51847831581_1750a652f9_z.jpg]Go North East 6353 / YX70 OKN by kieron mathews, on Flickr

6353 on road test earlier today passing Riverside

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28 Jan 2022, 7:43 pm #264
What is the PVR for the X10, as I think it is 3 - And 4 buses a branded. So if it is 3 then 1 will be spare.
Omega54
28 Jan 2022, 7:43 pm #264

What is the PVR for the X10, as I think it is 3 - And 4 buses a branded. So if it is 3 then 1 will be spare.

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28 Jan 2022, 8:10 pm #265
(28 Jan 2022, 7:43 pm)Omega54 What is the PVR for the X10, as I think it is 3 - And 4 buses a branded. So if it is 3 then 1 will be spare.
PVR is 4 (4 hour round trip with 16 min layover at each end).

6377 or a B9TL will most likely stand in as needed.
L469 YVK
28 Jan 2022, 8:10 pm #265

(28 Jan 2022, 7:43 pm)Omega54 What is the PVR for the X10, as I think it is 3 - And 4 buses a branded. So if it is 3 then 1 will be spare.
PVR is 4 (4 hour round trip with 16 min layover at each end).

6377 or a B9TL will most likely stand in as needed.

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29 Jan 2022, 2:03 pm #266
Seems like the 10:10 from Newcastle came off the wrong turning on the A19 towards Dalton Park.
Omega54
29 Jan 2022, 2:03 pm #266

Seems like the 10:10 from Newcastle came off the wrong turning on the A19 towards Dalton Park.

29 Jan 2022, 2:28 pm #267
(28 Jan 2022, 8:10 pm)L469 YVK PVR is 4 (4 hour round trip with 16 min layover at each end).

6377 or a B9TL will most likely stand in as needed.
or likely 6337 if it gets transferred over from Hexham or unless that goes back to Consett
KingSlayerRBLX
29 Jan 2022, 2:28 pm #267

(28 Jan 2022, 8:10 pm)L469 YVK PVR is 4 (4 hour round trip with 16 min layover at each end).

6377 or a B9TL will most likely stand in as needed.
or likely 6337 if it gets transferred over from Hexham or unless that goes back to Consett

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29 Jan 2022, 3:02 pm #268
(29 Jan 2022, 2:28 pm)KingSlayerRBLX or likely 6337 if it gets transferred over from Hexham or unless that goes back to Consett
Consett would be the most sensible option for 6337.
L469 YVK
29 Jan 2022, 3:02 pm #268

(29 Jan 2022, 2:28 pm)KingSlayerRBLX or likely 6337 if it gets transferred over from Hexham or unless that goes back to Consett
Consett would be the most sensible option for 6337.

29 Jan 2022, 4:00 pm #269
(29 Jan 2022, 3:02 pm)L469 YVK Consett would be the most sensible option for 6337.
I wouldn't say so, it's not as low as the rest of the E400s, so it'd be the obvious choice to go with the X10 if they wanted the same type as a spare

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streetdeckfan
29 Jan 2022, 4:00 pm #269

(29 Jan 2022, 3:02 pm)L469 YVK Consett would be the most sensible option for 6337.
I wouldn't say so, it's not as low as the rest of the E400s, so it'd be the obvious choice to go with the X10 if they wanted the same type as a spare

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29 Jan 2022, 4:16 pm #270
Ik this is for the X10, however they have came off the X84/X85

The main reason I think X85/X84 lost over the train is when the train was every 30 mins it was, compared from X84/X85 which left within 5 mins at Hexham - Not to mention that while it was direct going Via Central Station may have helped them. I Don't see why they didn't use 6337 as a always in service bus, to give them a every 30 mins frequency with the X85 having a PVR 2 with 5 mins a each end and the X84 having a PVR 3 and sending it a local way through Darras Hall or somewhere extra to give them a 20 mins lay over at each end.
Omega54
29 Jan 2022, 4:16 pm #270

Ik this is for the X10, however they have came off the X84/X85

The main reason I think X85/X84 lost over the train is when the train was every 30 mins it was, compared from X84/X85 which left within 5 mins at Hexham - Not to mention that while it was direct going Via Central Station may have helped them. I Don't see why they didn't use 6337 as a always in service bus, to give them a every 30 mins frequency with the X85 having a PVR 2 with 5 mins a each end and the X84 having a PVR 3 and sending it a local way through Darras Hall or somewhere extra to give them a 20 mins lay over at each end.

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29 Jan 2022, 4:27 pm #271
(29 Jan 2022, 4:00 pm)streetdeckfan I wouldn't say so, it's not as low as the rest of the E400s, so it'd be the obvious choice to go with the X10 if they wanted the same type as a spare

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But it can get under Dunston bridge, that's the key point. If anything going off the current PVRs out of Consett, 6338-40 & 6336-37 will provide more than enough suitable Euro 6 spares out of Consett as well as 6064 as a very last resort.

And as a spare, would you rather have 6337 which will be 8 year old this year or 6377 which is not even 2 year old?
L469 YVK
29 Jan 2022, 4:27 pm #271

(29 Jan 2022, 4:00 pm)streetdeckfan I wouldn't say so, it's not as low as the rest of the E400s, so it'd be the obvious choice to go with the X10 if they wanted the same type as a spare

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But it can get under Dunston bridge, that's the key point. If anything going off the current PVRs out of Consett, 6338-40 & 6336-37 will provide more than enough suitable Euro 6 spares out of Consett as well as 6064 as a very last resort.

And as a spare, would you rather have 6337 which will be 8 year old this year or 6377 which is not even 2 year old?

29 Jan 2022, 9:36 pm #272
(29 Jan 2022, 4:27 pm)L469 YVK But it can get under Dunston bridge, that's the key point. If anything going off the current PVRs out of Consett, 6338-40 & 6336-37 will provide more than enough suitable Euro 6 spares out of Consett as well as 6064 as a very last resort.

And as a spare, would you rather have 6337 which will be 8 year old this year or 6377 which is not even 2 year old?
Tbh I'd be fine with either! They're both comfortable, the only downside with 6337 doesn't have 240v sockets, but neither do any of the E400s

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streetdeckfan
29 Jan 2022, 9:36 pm #272

(29 Jan 2022, 4:27 pm)L469 YVK But it can get under Dunston bridge, that's the key point. If anything going off the current PVRs out of Consett, 6338-40 & 6336-37 will provide more than enough suitable Euro 6 spares out of Consett as well as 6064 as a very last resort.

And as a spare, would you rather have 6337 which will be 8 year old this year or 6377 which is not even 2 year old?
Tbh I'd be fine with either! They're both comfortable, the only downside with 6337 doesn't have 240v sockets, but neither do any of the E400s

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30 Jan 2022, 9:18 am #273
(29 Jan 2022, 9:36 pm)streetdeckfan Tbh I'd be fine with either! They're both comfortable, the only downside with 6337 doesn't have 240v sockets, but neither do any of the E400s

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the seats on that bus are bloody awful, rock hard and slippy - interior is very dated for a relatively new bus, needs an internal refurb like 6336.  It’s always been a bit of a jinx bus reliability wise too, frequently expired near st James park for some reason.
xpm
30 Jan 2022, 9:18 am #273

(29 Jan 2022, 9:36 pm)streetdeckfan Tbh I'd be fine with either! They're both comfortable, the only downside with 6337 doesn't have 240v sockets, but neither do any of the E400s

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the seats on that bus are bloody awful, rock hard and slippy - interior is very dated for a relatively new bus, needs an internal refurb like 6336.  It’s always been a bit of a jinx bus reliability wise too, frequently expired near st James park for some reason.

30 Jan 2022, 9:51 am #274
Followed an X10 branded MMC from Dunston to Newcastle earlier this morning. Entering service?
omnicity4659
30 Jan 2022, 9:51 am #274

Followed an X10 branded MMC from Dunston to Newcastle earlier this morning. Entering service?

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30 Jan 2022, 9:57 am #275
(30 Jan 2022, 9:51 am)omnicity4659 Followed an X10 branded MMC from Dunston to Newcastle earlier this morning. Entering service?


Yes, all four into service today in line with the service changes which see the X10 return to Eldon Square.


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30 Jan 2022, 9:57 am #275

(30 Jan 2022, 9:51 am)omnicity4659 Followed an X10 branded MMC from Dunston to Newcastle earlier this morning. Entering service?


Yes, all four into service today in line with the service changes which see the X10 return to Eldon Square.


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30 Jan 2022, 11:47 am #276
(30 Jan 2022, 9:57 am)Dan Yes, all four into service today in line with the service changes which see the X10 return to Eldon Square.


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So I presume that's the last we'll see of the Interdecks?

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streetdeckfan
30 Jan 2022, 11:47 am #276

(30 Jan 2022, 9:57 am)Dan Yes, all four into service today in line with the service changes which see the X10 return to Eldon Square.


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So I presume that's the last we'll see of the Interdecks?

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30 Jan 2022, 11:50 am #277
(30 Jan 2022, 9:57 am)Dan Yes, all four into service today in line with the service changes which see the X10 return to Eldon Square.


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I’m surprised that the X10 on Sundays doesn’t run every 2 hours, is there a demand on a Sunday for an hourly service?.


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cbma06
30 Jan 2022, 11:50 am #277

(30 Jan 2022, 9:57 am)Dan Yes, all four into service today in line with the service changes which see the X10 return to Eldon Square.


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I’m surprised that the X10 on Sundays doesn’t run every 2 hours, is there a demand on a Sunday for an hourly service?.


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30 Jan 2022, 12:14 pm #278
(29 Jan 2022, 2:03 pm)Omega54 Seems like the 10:10 from Newcastle came off the wrong turning on the A19 towards Dalton Park.

Well whilst I’m unsure if this was simple driver error or perhaps a conscious decision based on traffic, I wonder if that could be permanent route change to serve the top of Seaham. Considering the X10 is no longer as fast as it used to be, I wonder if it would create new connections/increase passengers - and would it increase journey times all that much? Obviously, limited stop serving - Seaton Crescent, New Seaham Mill Inn & Mount Pleasant.
Drifter60
30 Jan 2022, 12:14 pm #278

(29 Jan 2022, 2:03 pm)Omega54 Seems like the 10:10 from Newcastle came off the wrong turning on the A19 towards Dalton Park.

Well whilst I’m unsure if this was simple driver error or perhaps a conscious decision based on traffic, I wonder if that could be permanent route change to serve the top of Seaham. Considering the X10 is no longer as fast as it used to be, I wonder if it would create new connections/increase passengers - and would it increase journey times all that much? Obviously, limited stop serving - Seaton Crescent, New Seaham Mill Inn & Mount Pleasant.

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30 Jan 2022, 12:35 pm #279
(30 Jan 2022, 12:14 pm)Drifter60 Well whilst I’m unsure if this was simple driver error or perhaps a conscious decision based on traffic, I wonder if that could be permanent route change to serve the top of Seaham. Considering the X10 is no longer as fast as it used to be, I wonder if it would create new connections/increase passengers - and would it increase journey times all that much? Obviously, limited stop serving - Seaton Crescent, New Seaham Mill Inn & Mount Pleasant.


I wonder if it’s 50/50 or efficient for service x10 to come off southbound at Seaham and serve couple of stops at mill in as you say as by the time the x10 gone south on a19 then turn off a19 then double back to get to Dalton park probably roughly the same amount of time

Traffic lights at Seaham crossroads might cause a problem during peak times with traffic tailbacks though

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cbma06
30 Jan 2022, 12:35 pm #279

(30 Jan 2022, 12:14 pm)Drifter60 Well whilst I’m unsure if this was simple driver error or perhaps a conscious decision based on traffic, I wonder if that could be permanent route change to serve the top of Seaham. Considering the X10 is no longer as fast as it used to be, I wonder if it would create new connections/increase passengers - and would it increase journey times all that much? Obviously, limited stop serving - Seaton Crescent, New Seaham Mill Inn & Mount Pleasant.


I wonder if it’s 50/50 or efficient for service x10 to come off southbound at Seaham and serve couple of stops at mill in as you say as by the time the x10 gone south on a19 then turn off a19 then double back to get to Dalton park probably roughly the same amount of time

Traffic lights at Seaham crossroads might cause a problem during peak times with traffic tailbacks though

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30 Jan 2022, 1:01 pm #280
(30 Jan 2022, 11:50 am)cbma06 I’m surprised that the X10 on Sundays doesn’t run every 2 hours, is there a demand on a Sunday for an hourly service?.


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Good job it's not! https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...YOVNSEE0Rw&s=19

Seriously though, not sure if it would work from a passenger perspective (particularly on a match day). It might look good from an ops perspective, but I can't see passengers taking to it too well. Might sway them towards the train or other means even more. Which is the last thing GNE need!

They've been relying too much on the product imo and the product hasn't provided the results they want or need.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
30 Jan 2022, 1:01 pm #280

(30 Jan 2022, 11:50 am)cbma06 I’m surprised that the X10 on Sundays doesn’t run every 2 hours, is there a demand on a Sunday for an hourly service?.


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Good job it's not! https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...YOVNSEE0Rw&s=19

Seriously though, not sure if it would work from a passenger perspective (particularly on a match day). It might look good from an ops perspective, but I can't see passengers taking to it too well. Might sway them towards the train or other means even more. Which is the last thing GNE need!

They've been relying too much on the product imo and the product hasn't provided the results they want or need.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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