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Adrian

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29 Dec 2021, 8:48 pm #20

(29 Dec 2021, 8:10 pm)L469 YVK I do think BSIP if implemented and marketed correctly will bring benefits.

Clear standout examples include some of the examples for Durham. Others could include:

- GNE 1 & SNE 22 coordinated frequency (maybe every 15 mins each and every 7-8 combined on common sections).

- ANE 308 & GNE 309 coordinated frequency (every 20 mins each and approximately every 10 mins combined on common sections). Evening journeys also re-timed to provide a 30 mins combined frequency on common sections and Sunday journeys re-timed to provide an approx 15 minute frequency on common sections.

You should have a look through the BSIP plan in full, because the proposed Superbus routes (Red and Green) are included in the document. I use the term routes and not services, because it's illustrated as point to point between two places, not as GNE 1 or SNE 22 for example. See Page 99.

Doesn't look like the GNE 1 or SNE 22 in their current forms will be a Superbus route, as there's nothing between Wallsend and North Shields. There doesn't need to be either, as the Metro exists. North Shields to Whitley Bay and to Blyth are a Green route, so the proposal is a 10 minute daytime frequency along there.

I don't even think it's about BSIP being implemented or marked correctly at this stage. It's how much of the £804 million is going to be on offer, because around 40% of what was being asked for is revenue support "to subsidise the continuation of existing services in light of Covid-related financial shortfalls" and revenue support "to support the introduction of lower fares and expanded route networks."

There's no published plan B, so it remains to be seen what can be done with the minimal amount of funding that we're likely to receive. We'll be lucky if we get 20% of what we've put in for.

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Adrian

29 Dec 2021, 8:48 pm #20

(29 Dec 2021, 8:10 pm)L469 YVK I do think BSIP if implemented and marketed correctly will bring benefits.

Clear standout examples include some of the examples for Durham. Others could include:

- GNE 1 & SNE 22 coordinated frequency (maybe every 15 mins each and every 7-8 combined on common sections).

- ANE 308 & GNE 309 coordinated frequency (every 20 mins each and approximately every 10 mins combined on common sections). Evening journeys also re-timed to provide a 30 mins combined frequency on common sections and Sunday journeys re-timed to provide an approx 15 minute frequency on common sections.

You should have a look through the BSIP plan in full, because the proposed Superbus routes (Red and Green) are included in the document. I use the term routes and not services, because it's illustrated as point to point between two places, not as GNE 1 or SNE 22 for example. See Page 99.

Doesn't look like the GNE 1 or SNE 22 in their current forms will be a Superbus route, as there's nothing between Wallsend and North Shields. There doesn't need to be either, as the Metro exists. North Shields to Whitley Bay and to Blyth are a Green route, so the proposal is a 10 minute daytime frequency along there.

I don't even think it's about BSIP being implemented or marked correctly at this stage. It's how much of the £804 million is going to be on offer, because around 40% of what was being asked for is revenue support "to subsidise the continuation of existing services in light of Covid-related financial shortfalls" and revenue support "to support the introduction of lower fares and expanded route networks."

There's no published plan B, so it remains to be seen what can be done with the minimal amount of funding that we're likely to receive. We'll be lucky if we get 20% of what we've put in for.

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Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Andreos1 - 29 Dec 2021, 1:58 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by L469 YVK - 29 Dec 2021, 8:10 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by DeltaMan - 29 Dec 2021, 8:38 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Adrian - 29 Dec 2021, 8:48 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Michael - 29 Dec 2021, 8:54 pm

Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Dan - 29 Dec 2021, 8:54 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Keeiajs - 29 Dec 2021, 8:55 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Adrian - 29 Dec 2021, 10:06 pm

Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Dan - 29 Dec 2021, 9:23 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Adrian - 29 Dec 2021, 9:24 pm

Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Dan - 29 Dec 2021, 10:05 pm

Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by streetdeckfan - 30 Dec 2021, 9:59 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by deanmachine - 31 Dec 2021, 1:13 am

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by L469 YVK - 13 Jan 2022, 9:58 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by OrangeArrow49 - 13 Jan 2022, 10:19 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Thomas12 - 13 Jan 2022, 10:29 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by OrangeArrow49 - 13 Jan 2022, 10:36 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Thomas12 - 14 Jan 2022, 9:51 am

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Train8261 - 14 Jan 2022, 10:27 am

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Storx - 13 Jan 2022, 11:27 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by L469 YVK - 15 Jan 2022, 2:30 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by RMF1254 - 16 Jan 2022, 10:22 am

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by L469 YVK - 16 Jan 2022, 10:48 am

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by RMF1254 - 16 Jan 2022, 11:58 am

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by OrangeArrow49 - 13 Jan 2022, 11:39 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by RMF1254 - 14 Jan 2022, 9:15 am

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Storx - 14 Jan 2022, 11:35 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Ambassador - 14 Jan 2022, 11:49 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Train8261 - 16 Jan 2022, 12:24 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by DeltaMan - 16 Jan 2022, 2:05 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Dan - 16 Jan 2022, 2:31 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by RMF1254 - 16 Jan 2022, 3:13 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Train8261 - 16 Jan 2022, 3:47 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by peter - 16 Jan 2022, 4:11 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Train8261 - 16 Jan 2022, 4:41 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by V514DFT - 16 Jan 2022, 6:06 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by DeltaMan - 16 Jan 2022, 9:19 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by Andreos1 - 16 Jan 2022, 11:20 pm

RE: Route Development | Network Expansion & New Services - by L469 YVK - 17 Jan 2022, 8:07 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by L469 YVK - 29 Dec 2021, 2:36 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by Andreos1 - 29 Dec 2021, 2:43 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by Dan - 29 Dec 2021, 2:47 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by Dan - 29 Dec 2021, 2:54 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by Keeiajs - 29 Dec 2021, 2:57 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by Dan - 29 Dec 2021, 3:13 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by streetdeckfan - 29 Dec 2021, 3:14 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by Dan - 29 Dec 2021, 3:20 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by BusLoverMum - 30 Dec 2021, 11:56 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by streetdeckfan - 29 Dec 2021, 3:49 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by L469 YVK - 29 Dec 2021, 3:52 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by Keeiajs - 29 Dec 2021, 4:02 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by Andreos1 - 29 Dec 2021, 4:40 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by Keeiajs - 29 Dec 2021, 4:55 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by Dan - 29 Dec 2021, 5:50 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by Andreos1 - 29 Dec 2021, 8:54 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by L469 YVK - 29 Dec 2021, 5:53 pm

RE: Enviro 400MMC's for the X9 and X10 - by Dan - 29 Dec 2021, 5:56 pm