Future of the ‘Big Three’

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Future of the ‘Big Three’

Future of the ‘Big Three’

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MurdnunoC

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10 Jan 2022, 11:18 am #31

(09 Jan 2022, 11:51 pm)OrangeArrow49 Hence why I travel GNE.

My point was serving part (Gateshead and North Tyneside) and Metrocentre and Wallsend make sense within that network.

Arriva running a service to Wallsend more regularly and serving Metrocentre, I would probably use Arriva sometimes for Tynemouth, North Shields, Whitley Bay, Killingworth, Wallsend, Metrocentre, Gateshead, Gosforth and Fenham etc.

Neither Metrocentre or Wallsend would make sense in that network. Wallsend to Newcastle is already served by Go North East, Stagecoach and the Tyne and Wear Metro. Where is the business case for yet another operator to do introduce a similar route?

Metrocentre hasn't had a direct Arriva service from Newcastle since around 2009/10. Admittedly, I would have pushed for an Arriva service from Newcastle to Metrocentre back then as I would have assumed some passengers might have used the 602 after alighting at the Haymarket. However 13 or 14 years have passed and Arriva haven't been in any hurry introduce a replacement suggesting that through travel was minimal at best. This left Arriva with only one service to the Metrocentre, the X24 from Durham, which was withdrawn around 6 years ago (perhaps sooner) due to low usage. To summarise, there doesn't seem to be much of a business case to serve Metrocentre either.

Fenham doesn't have much of an Arriva service either. If we are classing the West Road as Fenham, the Arriva frequency of the 685 is approximately once every two hours. Can't see many people sitting around waiting for that, can you?

MurdnunoC

10 Jan 2022, 11:18 am #31

(09 Jan 2022, 11:51 pm)OrangeArrow49 Hence why I travel GNE.

My point was serving part (Gateshead and North Tyneside) and Metrocentre and Wallsend make sense within that network.

Arriva running a service to Wallsend more regularly and serving Metrocentre, I would probably use Arriva sometimes for Tynemouth, North Shields, Whitley Bay, Killingworth, Wallsend, Metrocentre, Gateshead, Gosforth and Fenham etc.

Neither Metrocentre or Wallsend would make sense in that network. Wallsend to Newcastle is already served by Go North East, Stagecoach and the Tyne and Wear Metro. Where is the business case for yet another operator to do introduce a similar route?

Metrocentre hasn't had a direct Arriva service from Newcastle since around 2009/10. Admittedly, I would have pushed for an Arriva service from Newcastle to Metrocentre back then as I would have assumed some passengers might have used the 602 after alighting at the Haymarket. However 13 or 14 years have passed and Arriva haven't been in any hurry introduce a replacement suggesting that through travel was minimal at best. This left Arriva with only one service to the Metrocentre, the X24 from Durham, which was withdrawn around 6 years ago (perhaps sooner) due to low usage. To summarise, there doesn't seem to be much of a business case to serve Metrocentre either.

Fenham doesn't have much of an Arriva service either. If we are classing the West Road as Fenham, the Arriva frequency of the 685 is approximately once every two hours. Can't see many people sitting around waiting for that, can you?

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Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by Bazza - 06 Jan 2022, 2:49 am

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RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by 54APhotography - 06 Jan 2022, 7:48 am

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by Adrian - 06 Jan 2022, 2:07 pm

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RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by Storx - 06 Jan 2022, 8:45 am

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RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by streetdeckfan - 06 Jan 2022, 1:09 pm

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RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by Dan - 06 Jan 2022, 7:53 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by Michael - 06 Jan 2022, 7:56 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by Andreos1 - 07 Jan 2022, 12:30 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by Bazza - 08 Jan 2022, 10:48 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by Bazza - 08 Jan 2022, 11:31 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by col87 - 09 Jan 2022, 8:56 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by OrangeArrow49 - 09 Jan 2022, 10:09 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by peter - 09 Jan 2022, 10:27 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by OrangeArrow49 - 09 Jan 2022, 11:27 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by mb134 - 09 Jan 2022, 11:42 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by OrangeArrow49 - 09 Jan 2022, 11:51 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by RMF1254 - 10 Jan 2022, 9:22 am

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by MurdnunoC - 10 Jan 2022, 11:18 am

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by OrangeArrow49 - 10 Jan 2022, 3:07 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by Storx - 10 Jan 2022, 5:49 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by Jimmi - 09 Jan 2022, 10:52 pm

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by Adrian - 11 Jan 2022, 8:44 am

RE: Future of the ‘Big Three’ - by MurdnunoC - 11 Jan 2022, 8:54 am