Arriva North East - Order Predictions / Suggestions
Arriva North East - Order Predictions / Suggestions
(20 Feb 2022, 9:16 pm)9920up It could be , based on the suggested numbers alone, the E200s could go directly to see off the more elderly vehicles in the fleet, namely the squadron of Omnicities, that will be, by Summer, well into their 18th year.
(20 Feb 2022, 9:16 pm)9920up It could be , based on the suggested numbers alone, the E200s could go directly to see off the more elderly vehicles in the fleet, namely the squadron of Omnicities, that will be, by Summer, well into their 18th year.
(20 Feb 2022, 3:52 pm)mb134 Not that they won't opt for ZF now that they can have stop start with a ZF setup, but the current MMCs with Voith 'boxes are fantastic performers on anything they're thrown at. Reasonably good acceleration on stop-start work, but equally more than happy sitting at 60 on dual carriageways.Funnily enough, Voiths would be ideal for the exact routes (bar the X10) that GNE use their E400MMCs on for the likes of Lobley Hill Bank, Dunston Bank, parts of Derwentside etc. Likewise, Stagecoach use them as they're off the mark around the doors. Flat out though, ZF is a better performer.
(20 Feb 2022, 3:52 pm)mb134 Not that they won't opt for ZF now that they can have stop start with a ZF setup, but the current MMCs with Voith 'boxes are fantastic performers on anything they're thrown at. Reasonably good acceleration on stop-start work, but equally more than happy sitting at 60 on dual carriageways.Funnily enough, Voiths would be ideal for the exact routes (bar the X10) that GNE use their E400MMCs on for the likes of Lobley Hill Bank, Dunston Bank, parts of Derwentside etc. Likewise, Stagecoach use them as they're off the mark around the doors. Flat out though, ZF is a better performer.
(20 Feb 2022, 11:22 pm)L469 YVK Funnily enough, Voiths would be ideal for the exact routes (bar the X10) that GNE use their E400MMCs on for the likes of Lobley Hill Bank, Dunston Bank, parts of Derwentside etc. Likewise, Stagecoach use them as they're off the mark around the doors. Flat out though, ZF is a better performer.
Arriva with their Dennis Tridents/E400/E400MMC went:
- Dennis Trident ALX400 - Voith
- Enviro 400 Classic - ZF
- Enviro 400 MMC - Voith
(20 Feb 2022, 11:22 pm)L469 YVK Funnily enough, Voiths would be ideal for the exact routes (bar the X10) that GNE use their E400MMCs on for the likes of Lobley Hill Bank, Dunston Bank, parts of Derwentside etc. Likewise, Stagecoach use them as they're off the mark around the doors. Flat out though, ZF is a better performer.
Arriva with their Dennis Tridents/E400/E400MMC went:
- Dennis Trident ALX400 - Voith
- Enviro 400 Classic - ZF
- Enviro 400 MMC - Voith
(21 Feb 2022, 12:47 am)mb134 Do you have much experience driving the Voith equipped MMCs that Arriva have? Drivers I've talked to at Ashington much prefer the MMCs with their Voith boxes on express work to pretty much anything else. Ultimately, they hold 60 on long dual carriageway stretches (i.e A1 Gosforth to Clifton, or A189 Moor Farm to North Seaton) more than comfortably, and it never sounds as if the engine is too strained.But why did Arriva originally move away from Voith to ZF instead of going for Voith in the classic E400s? Obviously enhanced BSOG made the decision quite easy for the case of going down the Voith S/S route for the E400MMC.
Mechanically those MMCs are rock solid too, so unless there's a substantial cost difference or something along those lines, I don't see why they'd switch away from a reliable setup.
(21 Feb 2022, 12:47 am)mb134 Do you have much experience driving the Voith equipped MMCs that Arriva have? Drivers I've talked to at Ashington much prefer the MMCs with their Voith boxes on express work to pretty much anything else. Ultimately, they hold 60 on long dual carriageway stretches (i.e A1 Gosforth to Clifton, or A189 Moor Farm to North Seaton) more than comfortably, and it never sounds as if the engine is too strained.But why did Arriva originally move away from Voith to ZF instead of going for Voith in the classic E400s? Obviously enhanced BSOG made the decision quite easy for the case of going down the Voith S/S route for the E400MMC.
Mechanically those MMCs are rock solid too, so unless there's a substantial cost difference or something along those lines, I don't see why they'd switch away from a reliable setup.
