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Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022

Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022

 
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Train8261



1,016
26 Jan 2022, 2:21 pm #21
Are all the Gateshead Central Taxis Newcastle/North Tyneside contract out for tender as well
Train8261
26 Jan 2022, 2:21 pm #21

Are all the Gateshead Central Taxis Newcastle/North Tyneside contract out for tender as well

26 Jan 2022, 11:43 pm #22
So for those who wish to know what changes are being offered.

19 - Will predominately operate between Cramlington and North Shields every hour, with one morning and one afternoon service to/from Ashington. It will go via Brierdene way and seghill. And also every hour from Northumberland Park to North Shields just like it is now but will go via the Fish Quay upon departure from the ferry. Last departures will be around half eight in the evening.

342 - Will operate between Wallsend, Kingston park(replacing the 42a) and Westerhope.

317 - replacement for the 41 and 11 it seems as it will operate from Wallsend via holy cross, howdon and then the 11 route to Whitley Bay with a stop at the ferry landing as well

18 - whole service Monday - Sunday is being tendered not just evenings/sundays as it was now.

theres a few others as well, list of all services being tendered are 1 (a few evening departures), 317, 342, 41a(few evenings deps), w2, 18, w1, 553, 19, 335, 643, 75/76, 32, m6, 552, 35, 84 and 84a
AnonPM1
26 Jan 2022, 11:43 pm #22

So for those who wish to know what changes are being offered.

19 - Will predominately operate between Cramlington and North Shields every hour, with one morning and one afternoon service to/from Ashington. It will go via Brierdene way and seghill. And also every hour from Northumberland Park to North Shields just like it is now but will go via the Fish Quay upon departure from the ferry. Last departures will be around half eight in the evening.

342 - Will operate between Wallsend, Kingston park(replacing the 42a) and Westerhope.

317 - replacement for the 41 and 11 it seems as it will operate from Wallsend via holy cross, howdon and then the 11 route to Whitley Bay with a stop at the ferry landing as well

18 - whole service Monday - Sunday is being tendered not just evenings/sundays as it was now.

theres a few others as well, list of all services being tendered are 1 (a few evening departures), 317, 342, 41a(few evenings deps), w2, 18, w1, 553, 19, 335, 643, 75/76, 32, m6, 552, 35, 84 and 84a

Omega54



290
27 Jan 2022, 12:11 am #23
(26 Jan 2022, 11:43 pm)AnonPM1 So for those who wish to know what changes are being offered.

19 - Will predominately operate between Cramlington and North Shields every hour, with one morning and one afternoon service to/from Ashington. It will go via Brierdene way and seghill. And also every hour from Northumberland Park to North Shields just like it is now but will go via the Fish Quay upon departure from the ferry. Last departures will be around half eight in the evening.

342 - Will operate between Wallsend, Kingston park(replacing the 42a) and Westerhope.

317 - replacement for the 41 and 11 it seems as it will operate from Wallsend via holy cross, howdon and then the 11 route to Whitley Bay with a stop at the ferry landing as well

18 -  whole service Monday - Sunday is being tendered not just evenings/sundays as it was now.

theres a few others as well, list of all services being tendered are 1 (a few evening departures), 317, 342, 41a(few evenings deps), w2, 18, w1, 553, 19, 335, 643, 75/76, 32, m6, 552, 35, 84 and 84a
Wonder which ones GNE will go in for, probs none.
Omega54
27 Jan 2022, 12:11 am #23

(26 Jan 2022, 11:43 pm)AnonPM1 So for those who wish to know what changes are being offered.

19 - Will predominately operate between Cramlington and North Shields every hour, with one morning and one afternoon service to/from Ashington. It will go via Brierdene way and seghill. And also every hour from Northumberland Park to North Shields just like it is now but will go via the Fish Quay upon departure from the ferry. Last departures will be around half eight in the evening.

342 - Will operate between Wallsend, Kingston park(replacing the 42a) and Westerhope.

317 - replacement for the 41 and 11 it seems as it will operate from Wallsend via holy cross, howdon and then the 11 route to Whitley Bay with a stop at the ferry landing as well

18 -  whole service Monday - Sunday is being tendered not just evenings/sundays as it was now.

theres a few others as well, list of all services being tendered are 1 (a few evening departures), 317, 342, 41a(few evenings deps), w2, 18, w1, 553, 19, 335, 643, 75/76, 32, m6, 552, 35, 84 and 84a
Wonder which ones GNE will go in for, probs none.

27 Jan 2022, 12:25 am #24
(27 Jan 2022, 12:11 am)Omega54 Wonder which ones GNE will go in for, probs none.

And then what would they do with all the buses and drivers that worked those routes? I guess they'll just disappear
streetdeckfan
27 Jan 2022, 12:25 am #24

(27 Jan 2022, 12:11 am)Omega54 Wonder which ones GNE will go in for, probs none.

And then what would they do with all the buses and drivers that worked those routes? I guess they'll just disappear

Omega54



290
27 Jan 2022, 12:41 am #25
(27 Jan 2022, 12:25 am)streetdeckfan And then what would they do with all the buses and drivers that worked those routes? I guess they'll just disappear
Transfer to another depot
Omega54
27 Jan 2022, 12:41 am #25

(27 Jan 2022, 12:25 am)streetdeckfan And then what would they do with all the buses and drivers that worked those routes? I guess they'll just disappear
Transfer to another depot

27 Jan 2022, 1:59 am #26
(26 Jan 2022, 11:43 pm)AnonPM1 So for those who wish to know what changes are being offered.

19 - Will predominately operate between Cramlington and North Shields every hour, with one morning and one afternoon service to/from Ashington. It will go via Brierdene way and seghill. And also every hour from Northumberland Park to North Shields just like it is now but will go via the Fish Quay upon departure from the ferry. Last departures will be around half eight in the evening.

342 - Will operate between Wallsend, Kingston park(replacing the 42a) and Westerhope.

317 - replacement for the 41 and 11 it seems as it will operate from Wallsend via holy cross, howdon and then the 11 route to Whitley Bay with a stop at the ferry landing as well

18 -  whole service Monday - Sunday is being tendered not just evenings/sundays as it was now.

theres a few others as well, list of all services being tendered are 1 (a few evening departures), 317, 342, 41a(few evenings deps), w2, 18, w1, 553, 19, 335, 643, 75/76, 32, m6, 552, 35, 84 and 84a

75/76? What are they? 553 is operated by Arriva commercially I believe?

342 hourly or every 2 hours?

18 route unchanged?

Expect Gateshead Central Taxis will get most, if not all, of the contracts.
Edited 27 Jan 2022, 2:04 am by OrangeArrow49.
OrangeArrow49
27 Jan 2022, 1:59 am #26

(26 Jan 2022, 11:43 pm)AnonPM1 So for those who wish to know what changes are being offered.

19 - Will predominately operate between Cramlington and North Shields every hour, with one morning and one afternoon service to/from Ashington. It will go via Brierdene way and seghill. And also every hour from Northumberland Park to North Shields just like it is now but will go via the Fish Quay upon departure from the ferry. Last departures will be around half eight in the evening.

342 - Will operate between Wallsend, Kingston park(replacing the 42a) and Westerhope.

317 - replacement for the 41 and 11 it seems as it will operate from Wallsend via holy cross, howdon and then the 11 route to Whitley Bay with a stop at the ferry landing as well

18 -  whole service Monday - Sunday is being tendered not just evenings/sundays as it was now.

theres a few others as well, list of all services being tendered are 1 (a few evening departures), 317, 342, 41a(few evenings deps), w2, 18, w1, 553, 19, 335, 643, 75/76, 32, m6, 552, 35, 84 and 84a

75/76? What are they? 553 is operated by Arriva commercially I believe?

342 hourly or every 2 hours?

18 route unchanged?

Expect Gateshead Central Taxis will get most, if not all, of the contracts.

27 Jan 2022, 2:14 am #27
(27 Jan 2022, 12:11 am)Omega54 Wonder which ones GNE will go in for, probs none.

Presumably 1, 18, 19, 41A, 317, 342 as they operate them now. Maybe 32.

I'd like to see GNE get the 18, 41A, 317 and possibly 32. Phoenix would be good for the 342 I think. Arriva the 19. Maybe A-Line for the 1 and 643.

I think I would award the following :

1 - A-Line
18 - Go North East
19 - Arriva
32 - Go North East
35 - Go North East
41A - Go North East
75/76 - Stagecoach
84/84A - A-Line
317 - Go North East or Arriva
335 - Gateshead Central Taxis or Arriva
342 - Phoenix Coaches
552 - Arriva
553 - Arriva
643 - A-Line
M6 - Go North East
W1 - Arriva
Edited 27 Jan 2022, 2:24 am by OrangeArrow49.
OrangeArrow49
27 Jan 2022, 2:14 am #27

(27 Jan 2022, 12:11 am)Omega54 Wonder which ones GNE will go in for, probs none.

Presumably 1, 18, 19, 41A, 317, 342 as they operate them now. Maybe 32.

I'd like to see GNE get the 18, 41A, 317 and possibly 32. Phoenix would be good for the 342 I think. Arriva the 19. Maybe A-Line for the 1 and 643.

I think I would award the following :

1 - A-Line
18 - Go North East
19 - Arriva
32 - Go North East
35 - Go North East
41A - Go North East
75/76 - Stagecoach
84/84A - A-Line
317 - Go North East or Arriva
335 - Gateshead Central Taxis or Arriva
342 - Phoenix Coaches
552 - Arriva
553 - Arriva
643 - A-Line
M6 - Go North East
W1 - Arriva

Train8261



1,016
27 Jan 2022, 3:21 am #28
(26 Jan 2022, 11:43 pm)AnonPM1 So for those who wish to know what changes are being offered.

19 - Will predominately operate between Cramlington and North Shields every hour, with one morning and one afternoon service to/from Ashington. It will go via Brierdene way and seghill. And also every hour from Northumberland Park to North Shields just like it is now but will go via the Fish Quay upon departure from the ferry. Last departures will be around half eight in the evening.

342 - Will operate between Wallsend, Kingston park(replacing the 42a) and Westerhope.

317 - replacement for the 41 and 11 it seems as it will operate from Wallsend via holy cross, howdon and then the 11 route to Whitley Bay with a stop at the ferry landing as well

18 -  whole service Monday - Sunday is being tendered not just evenings/sundays as it was now.

theres a few others as well, list of all services being tendered are 1 (a few evening departures), 317, 342, 41a(few evenings deps), w2, 18, w1, 553, 19, 335, 643, 75/76, 32, m6, 552, 35, 84 and 84a
Interested about the 342 service & 317. The 19 one I'm quite shocked about cutting Cramlington to Ashington link
18 is quite a shock as I'm wondering who will take that as the 18 is quite a vital service during the day

(27 Jan 2022, 2:14 am)OrangeArrow49 Presumably 1, 18, 19, 41A, 317, 342 as they operate them now. Maybe 32.

I'd like to see GNE get the 18, 41A, 317 and possibly 32. Phoenix would be good for the 342 I think. Arriva the 19. Maybe A-Line for the 1 and 643.

I think I would award the following :

1 - A-Line
18 - Go North East
19 - Arriva
32 - Go North East
35 - Go North East
41A - Go North East
75/76 - Stagecoach
84/84A - A-Line
317 - Go North East or Arriva
335 - Gateshead Central Taxis or Arriva
342 - Phoenix Coaches
552 - Arriva
553 - Arriva
643 - A-Line
M6 - Go North East
W1 - Arriva
The A Line ones I ain't sure about nor Phoenix for the 342. A Line for the 643 would see a bus in use all day. It would fit in with there school&worker contracts 
Id like to see the 19 ran by Arriva
Edited 27 Jan 2022, 3:25 am by Train8261.
Train8261
27 Jan 2022, 3:21 am #28

(26 Jan 2022, 11:43 pm)AnonPM1 So for those who wish to know what changes are being offered.

19 - Will predominately operate between Cramlington and North Shields every hour, with one morning and one afternoon service to/from Ashington. It will go via Brierdene way and seghill. And also every hour from Northumberland Park to North Shields just like it is now but will go via the Fish Quay upon departure from the ferry. Last departures will be around half eight in the evening.

342 - Will operate between Wallsend, Kingston park(replacing the 42a) and Westerhope.

317 - replacement for the 41 and 11 it seems as it will operate from Wallsend via holy cross, howdon and then the 11 route to Whitley Bay with a stop at the ferry landing as well

18 -  whole service Monday - Sunday is being tendered not just evenings/sundays as it was now.

theres a few others as well, list of all services being tendered are 1 (a few evening departures), 317, 342, 41a(few evenings deps), w2, 18, w1, 553, 19, 335, 643, 75/76, 32, m6, 552, 35, 84 and 84a
Interested about the 342 service & 317. The 19 one I'm quite shocked about cutting Cramlington to Ashington link
18 is quite a shock as I'm wondering who will take that as the 18 is quite a vital service during the day

(27 Jan 2022, 2:14 am)OrangeArrow49 Presumably 1, 18, 19, 41A, 317, 342 as they operate them now. Maybe 32.

I'd like to see GNE get the 18, 41A, 317 and possibly 32. Phoenix would be good for the 342 I think. Arriva the 19. Maybe A-Line for the 1 and 643.

I think I would award the following :

1 - A-Line
18 - Go North East
19 - Arriva
32 - Go North East
35 - Go North East
41A - Go North East
75/76 - Stagecoach
84/84A - A-Line
317 - Go North East or Arriva
335 - Gateshead Central Taxis or Arriva
342 - Phoenix Coaches
552 - Arriva
553 - Arriva
643 - A-Line
M6 - Go North East
W1 - Arriva
The A Line ones I ain't sure about nor Phoenix for the 342. A Line for the 643 would see a bus in use all day. It would fit in with there school&worker contracts 
Id like to see the 19 ran by Arriva

27 Jan 2022, 8:01 am #29
75 is West Denton - Walbottle- Newburn- Throckley- Newburn- Walbottle- West Denton
76 is West Denton Shops - West Denton park- Dumpling Hall

19 requires a single decker so no solo or other mini buses.

the 553 is only tendered for the 06:53 morning service

The 342 is every hour, last bus around 10 with the westerhope section stopping at 6. Doesnt serve the airport, prestwick, bank foot but does go into tesco.
AnonPM1
27 Jan 2022, 8:01 am #29

75 is West Denton - Walbottle- Newburn- Throckley- Newburn- Walbottle- West Denton
76 is West Denton Shops - West Denton park- Dumpling Hall

19 requires a single decker so no solo or other mini buses.

the 553 is only tendered for the 06:53 morning service

The 342 is every hour, last bus around 10 with the westerhope section stopping at 6. Doesnt serve the airport, prestwick, bank foot but does go into tesco.

busmanT



933
27 Jan 2022, 9:48 am #30
(27 Jan 2022, 12:11 am)Omega54 Wonder which ones GNE will go in for, probs none.

As GNE have the drivers, and there is a national driver shortage, I would expect GNE to tender for everything that they currently operate (or equivalent replacements) and possibly be the only operator to tender for these - none of the others have spare drivers, and recruiting extra drivers in the next 8 weeks will be impossible. 

Similarly, I would expect SNE to focus on winning the tenders for what they already operate.
busmanT
27 Jan 2022, 9:48 am #30

(27 Jan 2022, 12:11 am)Omega54 Wonder which ones GNE will go in for, probs none.

As GNE have the drivers, and there is a national driver shortage, I would expect GNE to tender for everything that they currently operate (or equivalent replacements) and possibly be the only operator to tender for these - none of the others have spare drivers, and recruiting extra drivers in the next 8 weeks will be impossible. 

Similarly, I would expect SNE to focus on winning the tenders for what they already operate.

Thomas12



467
27 Jan 2022, 10:26 am #31
(26 Jan 2022, 11:43 pm)AnonPM1 So for those who wish to know what changes are being offered.

19 - Will predominately operate between Cramlington and North Shields every hour, with one morning and one afternoon service to/from Ashington. It will go via Brierdene way and seghill. And also every hour from Northumberland Park to North Shields just like it is now but will go via the Fish Quay upon departure from the ferry. Last departures will be around half eight in the evening.

342 - Will operate between Wallsend, Kingston park(replacing the 42a) and Westerhope.

317 - replacement for the 41 and 11 it seems as it will operate from Wallsend via holy cross, howdon and then the 11 route to Whitley Bay with a stop at the ferry landing as well

18 -  whole service Monday - Sunday is being tendered not just evenings/sundays as it was now.

theres a few others as well, list of all services being tendered are 1 (a few evening departures), 317, 342, 41a(few evenings deps), w2, 18, w1, 553, 19, 335, 643, 75/76, 32, m6, 552, 35, 84 and 84a

Thanks for sharing, they sound sensible. 

Do you know if the 11 will operate via Coniston Road and Ridley Avenue, or via Churchill Street and Tynemouth Road after Holy Cross? Bit concerned that Coniston Road will be left without a bus service.

Also, the M6 sounds interesting - any ideas on that one?

(27 Jan 2022, 3:21 am)Train8261 Interested about the 342 service & 317. The 19 one I'm quite shocked about cutting Cramlington to Ashington link
18 is quite a shock as I'm wondering who will take that as the 18 is quite a vital service during the day

The A Line ones I ain't sure about nor Phoenix for the 342. A Line for the 643 would see a bus in use all day. It would fit in with there school&worker contracts 
Id like to see the 19 ran by Arriva

Not that surprising really as the 57 covers that section.
Edited 27 Jan 2022, 10:27 am by Thomas12.
Thomas12
27 Jan 2022, 10:26 am #31

(26 Jan 2022, 11:43 pm)AnonPM1 So for those who wish to know what changes are being offered.

19 - Will predominately operate between Cramlington and North Shields every hour, with one morning and one afternoon service to/from Ashington. It will go via Brierdene way and seghill. And also every hour from Northumberland Park to North Shields just like it is now but will go via the Fish Quay upon departure from the ferry. Last departures will be around half eight in the evening.

342 - Will operate between Wallsend, Kingston park(replacing the 42a) and Westerhope.

317 - replacement for the 41 and 11 it seems as it will operate from Wallsend via holy cross, howdon and then the 11 route to Whitley Bay with a stop at the ferry landing as well

18 -  whole service Monday - Sunday is being tendered not just evenings/sundays as it was now.

theres a few others as well, list of all services being tendered are 1 (a few evening departures), 317, 342, 41a(few evenings deps), w2, 18, w1, 553, 19, 335, 643, 75/76, 32, m6, 552, 35, 84 and 84a

Thanks for sharing, they sound sensible. 

Do you know if the 11 will operate via Coniston Road and Ridley Avenue, or via Churchill Street and Tynemouth Road after Holy Cross? Bit concerned that Coniston Road will be left without a bus service.

Also, the M6 sounds interesting - any ideas on that one?

(27 Jan 2022, 3:21 am)Train8261 Interested about the 342 service & 317. The 19 one I'm quite shocked about cutting Cramlington to Ashington link
18 is quite a shock as I'm wondering who will take that as the 18 is quite a vital service during the day

The A Line ones I ain't sure about nor Phoenix for the 342. A Line for the 643 would see a bus in use all day. It would fit in with there school&worker contracts 
Id like to see the 19 ran by Arriva

Not that surprising really as the 57 covers that section.

Storx



4,582
27 Jan 2022, 10:38 am #32
Seen someone has leaked them, also to note the 33/33A is missing aswell as the W3, K1, K2, 333, 359, 13, M71 so can assume they're all withdrawn / replaced (rumoured Q3 for the former).

The 19 replacing the Northern section of the 359. It does the X7 route between Seghill and top end of Delaval, assuming it's a future proof route for the B&T railway if it comes. It's also nice to see it connects with the Metro 7 minutes before it's due to depart / arrives in both directions compared to the current situation where the Metro pulls in and the Bus pulls out.
The 335 is dropped to hourly via Murton replacing the other section.
The W1 is replacing the section of W3 over the bridge.
The 335 is also extended to Killingworth replacing the K1/K2.
The 342 is replacing the M71.
The 76 is the 13.
The 75 is to 'keep links between Throckley and West Denton' so seems the 71 is gone.

Also whoever asked the M6 is just the current 6 not sure why the renumber.
Storx
27 Jan 2022, 10:38 am #32

Seen someone has leaked them, also to note the 33/33A is missing aswell as the W3, K1, K2, 333, 359, 13, M71 so can assume they're all withdrawn / replaced (rumoured Q3 for the former).

The 19 replacing the Northern section of the 359. It does the X7 route between Seghill and top end of Delaval, assuming it's a future proof route for the B&T railway if it comes. It's also nice to see it connects with the Metro 7 minutes before it's due to depart / arrives in both directions compared to the current situation where the Metro pulls in and the Bus pulls out.
The 335 is dropped to hourly via Murton replacing the other section.
The W1 is replacing the section of W3 over the bridge.
The 335 is also extended to Killingworth replacing the K1/K2.
The 342 is replacing the M71.
The 76 is the 13.
The 75 is to 'keep links between Throckley and West Denton' so seems the 71 is gone.

Also whoever asked the M6 is just the current 6 not sure why the renumber.

27 Jan 2022, 11:42 am #33
(27 Jan 2022, 10:38 am)Storx Seen someone has leaked them, also to note the 33/33A is missing aswell as the W3, K1, K2, 333, 359, 13, M71 so can assume they're all withdrawn / replaced (rumoured Q3 for the former).

The 19 replacing the Northern section of the 359. It does the X7 route between Seghill and top end of Delaval, assuming it's a future proof route for the B&T railway if it comes. It's also nice to see it connects with the Metro 7 minutes before it's due to depart / arrives in both directions compared to the current situation where the Metro pulls in and the Bus pulls out.
The 335 is dropped to hourly via Murton replacing the other section.
The W1 is replacing the section of W3 over the bridge.
The 335 is also extended to Killingworth replacing the K1/K2.
The 342 is replacing the M71.
The 76 is the 13.
The 75 is to 'keep links between Throckley and West Denton' so seems the 71 is gone.

Also whoever asked the M6 is just the current 6 not sure why the renumber.

33/33A must be replaced by the 35?

71 is just renumbered to 75?
13 is just renumbered to 76?
6 is just renumbered to M6?
342 reduces the frequency of the M71, could Phoenix run this as they currently operate the M71?

Interested what is happening with the Q3. 18 replacing it Walker/Wallsend, operated by GNE, is the Great Park end staying and is the numbering remaining unchanged?
OrangeArrow49
27 Jan 2022, 11:42 am #33

(27 Jan 2022, 10:38 am)Storx Seen someone has leaked them, also to note the 33/33A is missing aswell as the W3, K1, K2, 333, 359, 13, M71 so can assume they're all withdrawn / replaced (rumoured Q3 for the former).

The 19 replacing the Northern section of the 359. It does the X7 route between Seghill and top end of Delaval, assuming it's a future proof route for the B&T railway if it comes. It's also nice to see it connects with the Metro 7 minutes before it's due to depart / arrives in both directions compared to the current situation where the Metro pulls in and the Bus pulls out.
The 335 is dropped to hourly via Murton replacing the other section.
The W1 is replacing the section of W3 over the bridge.
The 335 is also extended to Killingworth replacing the K1/K2.
The 342 is replacing the M71.
The 76 is the 13.
The 75 is to 'keep links between Throckley and West Denton' so seems the 71 is gone.

Also whoever asked the M6 is just the current 6 not sure why the renumber.

33/33A must be replaced by the 35?

71 is just renumbered to 75?
13 is just renumbered to 76?
6 is just renumbered to M6?
342 reduces the frequency of the M71, could Phoenix run this as they currently operate the M71?

Interested what is happening with the Q3. 18 replacing it Walker/Wallsend, operated by GNE, is the Great Park end staying and is the numbering remaining unchanged?

pbjd



320
27 Jan 2022, 11:45 am #34
(27 Jan 2022, 11:42 am)OrangeArrow49 33/33A must be replaced by the 35?

71 is just renumbered to 75?
13 is just renumbered to 76?
6 is just renumbered to M6?
342 reduces the frequency of the M71, could Phoenix run this as they currently operate the M71?

Interested what is happening with the Q3. 18 replacing it Walker/Wallsend, operated by GNE, is the Great Park end staying and is the numbering remaining unchanged?

33 being replaced in Jesmond by Q3, which is being cut to St Peters. Hollywood Avenue I would think an extension of the 553.
pbjd
27 Jan 2022, 11:45 am #34

(27 Jan 2022, 11:42 am)OrangeArrow49 33/33A must be replaced by the 35?

71 is just renumbered to 75?
13 is just renumbered to 76?
6 is just renumbered to M6?
342 reduces the frequency of the M71, could Phoenix run this as they currently operate the M71?

Interested what is happening with the Q3. 18 replacing it Walker/Wallsend, operated by GNE, is the Great Park end staying and is the numbering remaining unchanged?

33 being replaced in Jesmond by Q3, which is being cut to St Peters. Hollywood Avenue I would think an extension of the 553.

27 Jan 2022, 11:54 am #35
(27 Jan 2022, 11:45 am)pbjd 33 being replaced in Jesmond by Q3, which is being cut to St Peters. Hollywood Avenue I would think an extension of the 553.

Surprised the Q3 is getting pulled from Walker/Wallsend. Wasn't expecting the 33/33A to be withdrawn either. No GNE in Fawdon anymore then, just the Stagecoach 35? These are significant changes.
OrangeArrow49
27 Jan 2022, 11:54 am #35

(27 Jan 2022, 11:45 am)pbjd 33 being replaced in Jesmond by Q3, which is being cut to St Peters. Hollywood Avenue I would think an extension of the 553.

Surprised the Q3 is getting pulled from Walker/Wallsend. Wasn't expecting the 33/33A to be withdrawn either. No GNE in Fawdon anymore then, just the Stagecoach 35? These are significant changes.

Thomas12



467
27 Jan 2022, 12:20 pm #36
(27 Jan 2022, 11:54 am)OrangeArrow49 Surprised the Q3 is getting pulled from Walker/Wallsend. Wasn't expecting the 33/33A to be withdrawn either. No GNE in Fawdon anymore then, just the Stagecoach 35? These are significant changes.

It's a shame they couldn't have a least tried to operate every 30 minutes to Walker/Wallsend.

While there is some duplication with Stagecoach, it provides some unique links to Quayside, Jesmond (if it stayed), Gosforth etc. from Walker and Wallsend. It also provides a direct link from some areas of Walker which don't have a service to Wallsend/Newcastle like Westbourne Avenue and the western end of Walker Road.
Thomas12
27 Jan 2022, 12:20 pm #36

(27 Jan 2022, 11:54 am)OrangeArrow49 Surprised the Q3 is getting pulled from Walker/Wallsend. Wasn't expecting the 33/33A to be withdrawn either. No GNE in Fawdon anymore then, just the Stagecoach 35? These are significant changes.

It's a shame they couldn't have a least tried to operate every 30 minutes to Walker/Wallsend.

While there is some duplication with Stagecoach, it provides some unique links to Quayside, Jesmond (if it stayed), Gosforth etc. from Walker and Wallsend. It also provides a direct link from some areas of Walker which don't have a service to Wallsend/Newcastle like Westbourne Avenue and the western end of Walker Road.

Storx



4,582
27 Jan 2022, 6:45 pm #37
(27 Jan 2022, 11:42 am)OrangeArrow49 33/33A must be replaced by the 35?

71 is just renumbered to 75?
13 is just renumbered to 76?
6 is just renumbered to M6?
342 reduces the frequency of the M71, could Phoenix run this as they currently operate the M71?

Interested what is happening with the Q3. 18 replacing it Walker/Wallsend, operated by GNE, is the Great Park end staying and is the numbering remaining unchanged?
(27 Jan 2022, 11:45 am)pbjd 33 being replaced in Jesmond by Q3, which is being cut to St Peters. Hollywood Avenue I would think an extension of the 553.

There's no tender out for the Hollywood Avenue bit so it's either been bid by someone else as part of an existing route or it's getting dropped altogether (which I doubt).
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27 Jan 2022, 6:45 pm #37

(27 Jan 2022, 11:42 am)OrangeArrow49 33/33A must be replaced by the 35?

71 is just renumbered to 75?
13 is just renumbered to 76?
6 is just renumbered to M6?
342 reduces the frequency of the M71, could Phoenix run this as they currently operate the M71?

Interested what is happening with the Q3. 18 replacing it Walker/Wallsend, operated by GNE, is the Great Park end staying and is the numbering remaining unchanged?
(27 Jan 2022, 11:45 am)pbjd 33 being replaced in Jesmond by Q3, which is being cut to St Peters. Hollywood Avenue I would think an extension of the 553.

There's no tender out for the Hollywood Avenue bit so it's either been bid by someone else as part of an existing route or it's getting dropped altogether (which I doubt).

Adrian



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27 Jan 2022, 7:37 pm #38
(27 Jan 2022, 2:14 am)OrangeArrow49 I think I would award the following :

1 - A-Line
18 - Go North East
19 - Arriva
32 - Go North East
35 - Go North East
41A - Go North East
75/76 - Stagecoach
84/84A - A-Line
317 - Go North East or Arriva
335 - Gateshead Central Taxis or Arriva
342 - Phoenix Coaches
552 - Arriva
553 - Arriva
643 - A-Line
M6 - Go North East
W1 - Arriva

Based on what? I don't know how you can decide what you'd award to who, when you haven't seen what price any of them have bid at.

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27 Jan 2022, 7:37 pm #38

(27 Jan 2022, 2:14 am)OrangeArrow49 I think I would award the following :

1 - A-Line
18 - Go North East
19 - Arriva
32 - Go North East
35 - Go North East
41A - Go North East
75/76 - Stagecoach
84/84A - A-Line
317 - Go North East or Arriva
335 - Gateshead Central Taxis or Arriva
342 - Phoenix Coaches
552 - Arriva
553 - Arriva
643 - A-Line
M6 - Go North East
W1 - Arriva

Based on what? I don't know how you can decide what you'd award to who, when you haven't seen what price any of them have bid at.


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27 Jan 2022, 8:05 pm #39
(27 Jan 2022, 7:37 pm)Adrian Based on what? I don't know how you can decide what you'd award to who, when you haven't seen what price any of them have bid at.

Well based on cost the whole lot would be awarded to Gateshead Central Taxis. My  awards would be about fairer distribution of contracts and links for onaward  travel.
OrangeArrow49
27 Jan 2022, 8:05 pm #39

(27 Jan 2022, 7:37 pm)Adrian Based on what? I don't know how you can decide what you'd award to who, when you haven't seen what price any of them have bid at.

Well based on cost the whole lot would be awarded to Gateshead Central Taxis. My  awards would be about fairer distribution of contracts and links for onaward  travel.

Adrian



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27 Jan 2022, 8:07 pm #40
(27 Jan 2022, 8:05 pm)OrangeArrow49 Well based on cost the whole lot would be awarded to Gateshead Central Taxis. My  awards would be about fairer distribution of contracts and links for onaward  travel.

It's a tender process though. Not names out of the hat. 

I do somewhat agree about links for onward travel, and indeed things like ticket acceptance, but it all depends on what weighting Nexus are using. I think it was quoted 95% price 5% quality previously, but that may have changed to 100% price in the last lot...

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27 Jan 2022, 8:07 pm #40

(27 Jan 2022, 8:05 pm)OrangeArrow49 Well based on cost the whole lot would be awarded to Gateshead Central Taxis. My  awards would be about fairer distribution of contracts and links for onaward  travel.

It's a tender process though. Not names out of the hat. 

I do somewhat agree about links for onward travel, and indeed things like ticket acceptance, but it all depends on what weighting Nexus are using. I think it was quoted 95% price 5% quality previously, but that may have changed to 100% price in the last lot...


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