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15 Mar 2022, 3:00 pm #21
(20 Feb 2022, 10:23 am)IRHardy The Autobus Review book "Northern and its subsidiaries" published in 1995 gives a very good history of Northern General from the 1880s up until the mid 1990s:  https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookD...1089679833&cm_sp=rec-_-pd_hw_i_1-_-bdp&reftag=pd_hw_i_1.

5 new subsidiaries were created in Jan 1991:
The Northern General Transport Co. Ltd. - Chester-le-Street, Consett & Stanley
The Tyneside Omnibus Co Ltd. (trading as South Tyne Buses) – South Shields
The Tynemouth & District Omnibus Co. (trading as Coastline Buses) – Percy Main & Wallsend
The Sunderland & District Omnibus Co. (trading as Wear Buses) – Sunderland, Philadelphia & Washington
The Gateshead & District Omnibus Co. (trading as Go-Ahead Gateshead) – Gateshead & Winlaton

During 1992 the new brands were introduced but Tyneside Omnibus Co Ltd. rebranded their ops as VFM rather than South Tyne Buses, and Northern General Transport Co. Ltd. rebranded their ops as Northern.

Didn't a couple of these "jump the gun" or have an extended transition. I remember as a lad that some of the North Tyne double decks had "Coastline Service" (not in the Coastline font we got to know) emblazoned in vinyl on the upper park of the top deck window. Also a few of the fleet did gain the temporary South Tyne Buses name before the transition fully to VFM https://live.staticflickr.com/5144/56536...b808_b.jpg (picture not mine)
anvil1984
15 Mar 2022, 3:00 pm #21

(20 Feb 2022, 10:23 am)IRHardy The Autobus Review book "Northern and its subsidiaries" published in 1995 gives a very good history of Northern General from the 1880s up until the mid 1990s:  https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookD...1089679833&cm_sp=rec-_-pd_hw_i_1-_-bdp&reftag=pd_hw_i_1.

5 new subsidiaries were created in Jan 1991:
The Northern General Transport Co. Ltd. - Chester-le-Street, Consett & Stanley
The Tyneside Omnibus Co Ltd. (trading as South Tyne Buses) – South Shields
The Tynemouth & District Omnibus Co. (trading as Coastline Buses) – Percy Main & Wallsend
The Sunderland & District Omnibus Co. (trading as Wear Buses) – Sunderland, Philadelphia & Washington
The Gateshead & District Omnibus Co. (trading as Go-Ahead Gateshead) – Gateshead & Winlaton

During 1992 the new brands were introduced but Tyneside Omnibus Co Ltd. rebranded their ops as VFM rather than South Tyne Buses, and Northern General Transport Co. Ltd. rebranded their ops as Northern.

Didn't a couple of these "jump the gun" or have an extended transition. I remember as a lad that some of the North Tyne double decks had "Coastline Service" (not in the Coastline font we got to know) emblazoned in vinyl on the upper park of the top deck window. Also a few of the fleet did gain the temporary South Tyne Buses name before the transition fully to VFM https://live.staticflickr.com/5144/56536...b808_b.jpg (picture not mine)

F114TML



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15 Mar 2022, 7:10 pm #22
So I'm assuming this livery was very short-lived and replaced by all-over white pretty quickly. Was a particular reason for that, as it seems to be a base for the branded liveries at the time (much like now), so would make sense to be the 'spare' livery?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/38...otostream/
F114TML
15 Mar 2022, 7:10 pm #22

So I'm assuming this livery was very short-lived and replaced by all-over white pretty quickly. Was a particular reason for that, as it seems to be a base for the branded liveries at the time (much like now), so would make sense to be the 'spare' livery?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/emdjt42/38...otostream/

Chris 1



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16 Mar 2022, 12:23 pm #23
I believe the time taken and subsequent cost to repaint buses in this livery ruled it out. On the likes of the Geminis on the 724 it looked stunning. As a general rule of thumb, all the brands at the time were based on one overall colour and then vinyls added on top.
Chris 1
16 Mar 2022, 12:23 pm #23

I believe the time taken and subsequent cost to repaint buses in this livery ruled it out. On the likes of the Geminis on the 724 it looked stunning. As a general rule of thumb, all the brands at the time were based on one overall colour and then vinyls added on top.

col87



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11 Aug 2022, 12:29 pm #24
I believe the original Go North East livery lasted between 1997 - 2012 as several Go North East buses where still about in that livery in the Autumn of 2012 especially around Chester Le Street.

As for branding it’s always been there ( Wear Express was first used in the 1990s for the original X5 between Hartlepool - Newcastle) along with Superliner ( for the original X1 between Middlesbrough- Newcastle).
The Go Wear buses , Northern, Xpress Coastline names started to go in 2006 to be replaced by Go North East as the official name for them all. I think Tyne Tess express was one of the first as early as 2004 although then just branded as X10 with Fab 56 and Angel 21 both starting the branding in 2006 the likes of Fast Cats then coming in over the following years. Northern came back in 2012 with the all over red to replace what was left of the original livery’s and like said the all over white. This was the case till 2016 when the new livery was introduced with a slight change in 2019.
col87
11 Aug 2022, 12:29 pm #24

I believe the original Go North East livery lasted between 1997 - 2012 as several Go North East buses where still about in that livery in the Autumn of 2012 especially around Chester Le Street.

As for branding it’s always been there ( Wear Express was first used in the 1990s for the original X5 between Hartlepool - Newcastle) along with Superliner ( for the original X1 between Middlesbrough- Newcastle).
The Go Wear buses , Northern, Xpress Coastline names started to go in 2006 to be replaced by Go North East as the official name for them all. I think Tyne Tess express was one of the first as early as 2004 although then just branded as X10 with Fab 56 and Angel 21 both starting the branding in 2006 the likes of Fast Cats then coming in over the following years. Northern came back in 2012 with the all over red to replace what was left of the original livery’s and like said the all over white. This was the case till 2016 when the new livery was introduced with a slight change in 2019.

Unber43



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11 Aug 2022, 12:46 pm #25
(11 Aug 2022, 12:29 pm)col87 I believe the original Go North East livery lasted between 1997 - 2012 as several Go North East buses where still about in that livery in the Autumn of 2012 especially around Chester Le Street. 

As for branding it’s always been there ( Wear Express was first used in the 1990s for the original X5 between Hartlepool - Newcastle) along with Superliner ( for the original X1 between Middlesbrough- Newcastle).
The Go Wear buses , Northern, Xpress Coastline names started to go in 2006 to be replaced by Go North East as the official name for them all.  I think Tyne Tess express was one of the first as early as 2004 although then just branded as X10 with  Fab 56 and Angel 21 both starting the branding in 2006 the likes of Fast Cats then coming in over the following years. Northern came back in 2012 with the all over red to replace what was left of the original livery’s and like said the all over white.  This was the case till 2016 when the new livery was introduced with a slight change in 2019.
Didn't the Coaster/Drifter start in 2005 aswell.
Unber43
11 Aug 2022, 12:46 pm #25

(11 Aug 2022, 12:29 pm)col87 I believe the original Go North East livery lasted between 1997 - 2012 as several Go North East buses where still about in that livery in the Autumn of 2012 especially around Chester Le Street. 

As for branding it’s always been there ( Wear Express was first used in the 1990s for the original X5 between Hartlepool - Newcastle) along with Superliner ( for the original X1 between Middlesbrough- Newcastle).
The Go Wear buses , Northern, Xpress Coastline names started to go in 2006 to be replaced by Go North East as the official name for them all.  I think Tyne Tess express was one of the first as early as 2004 although then just branded as X10 with  Fab 56 and Angel 21 both starting the branding in 2006 the likes of Fast Cats then coming in over the following years. Northern came back in 2012 with the all over red to replace what was left of the original livery’s and like said the all over white.  This was the case till 2016 when the new livery was introduced with a slight change in 2019.
Didn't the Coaster/Drifter start in 2005 aswell.

11 Aug 2022, 11:27 pm #26
(11 Aug 2022, 12:46 pm)Unber43 Didn't the Coaster/Drifter start in 2005 aswell.
Both 2007, as was Angel (the route was branded as The Twenty One on corporate base colours prior to that).  It was the core Sunderland and Washington routes that started the technicolour branding, in July 2006.
stagecoachbusdepot
11 Aug 2022, 11:27 pm #26

(11 Aug 2022, 12:46 pm)Unber43 Didn't the Coaster/Drifter start in 2005 aswell.
Both 2007, as was Angel (the route was branded as The Twenty One on corporate base colours prior to that).  It was the core Sunderland and Washington routes that started the technicolour branding, in July 2006.

Unber43



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11 Aug 2022, 11:51 pm #27
(11 Aug 2022, 11:27 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Both 2007, as was Angel (the route was branded as The Twenty One on corporate base colours prior to that).  It was the core Sunderland and Washington routes that started the technicolour branding, in July 2006.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoach...Si-cbPpQ5/ This was from 2005, however Coaster was 2007.

Tho I did find an SPD which as Sub Branding for the 150 (60 before it was renumbered) https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoach...Vu-2nf2zkC

It was later repainted into Doxford Clipper (something I did find out that 39A went via Durham Road if anyone has a map of that it would be appreciated I would be intrested in the route it went), then Venture then East Durham
Unber43
11 Aug 2022, 11:51 pm #27

(11 Aug 2022, 11:27 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Both 2007, as was Angel (the route was branded as The Twenty One on corporate base colours prior to that).  It was the core Sunderland and Washington routes that started the technicolour branding, in July 2006.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoach...Si-cbPpQ5/ This was from 2005, however Coaster was 2007.

Tho I did find an SPD which as Sub Branding for the 150 (60 before it was renumbered) https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoach...Vu-2nf2zkC

It was later repainted into Doxford Clipper (something I did find out that 39A went via Durham Road if anyone has a map of that it would be appreciated I would be intrested in the route it went), then Venture then East Durham

12 Aug 2022, 12:28 am #28
(11 Aug 2022, 11:51 pm)Unber43 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoach...Si-cbPpQ5/ This was from 2005, however Coaster was 2007.

Tho I did find an SPD which as Sub Branding for the 150 (60 before it was renumbered) https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoach...Vu-2nf2zkC

It was later repainted into Doxford Clipper (something I did find out that 39A went via Durham Road if anyone has a map of that it would be appreciated I would be intrested in the route it went), then Venture then East Durham

No it wasn't - Drifter was introduced in 2007.
See here for photo of the same vehicle, still in corporate livery, in 2006... https://www.flickr.com/photos/andyburbid...YSi-7s6VDG

Re 150, several routes had that form of sub branding applied to fleet livery (as well as various other forms of sub branding over the years).  2006 was when the step change was made from sub branding to full on multicolour designs.
stagecoachbusdepot
12 Aug 2022, 12:28 am #28

(11 Aug 2022, 11:51 pm)Unber43 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoach...Si-cbPpQ5/ This was from 2005, however Coaster was 2007.

Tho I did find an SPD which as Sub Branding for the 150 (60 before it was renumbered) https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoach...Vu-2nf2zkC

It was later repainted into Doxford Clipper (something I did find out that 39A went via Durham Road if anyone has a map of that it would be appreciated I would be intrested in the route it went), then Venture then East Durham

No it wasn't - Drifter was introduced in 2007.
See here for photo of the same vehicle, still in corporate livery, in 2006... https://www.flickr.com/photos/andyburbid...YSi-7s6VDG

Re 150, several routes had that form of sub branding applied to fleet livery (as well as various other forms of sub branding over the years).  2006 was when the step change was made from sub branding to full on multicolour designs.

cbma06



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12 Aug 2022, 6:38 am #29
(11 Aug 2022, 11:51 pm)Unber43 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoach...Si-cbPpQ5/ This was from 2005, however Coaster was 2007.

Tho I did find an SPD which as Sub Branding for the 150 (60 before it was renumbered) https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoach...Vu-2nf2zkC

It was later repainted into Doxford Clipper (something I did find out that 39A went via Durham Road if anyone has a map of that it would be appreciated I would be intrested in the route it went), then Venture then East Durham


Doxford clipper 29/29a/39/39a sequence took over the 135/136/139/140, while the 26/26a/36/36a sequence took over the 126/160/163

The 139/140 circular service was original put on in replace of pte old x14 route between Doxford park moor side to Sunderland via Durham road and replaced service 101 between Sunderland and Grangetown via toward road and extended from Grangetown to Doxford park.


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cbma06
12 Aug 2022, 6:38 am #29

(11 Aug 2022, 11:51 pm)Unber43 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoach...Si-cbPpQ5/ This was from 2005, however Coaster was 2007.

Tho I did find an SPD which as Sub Branding for the 150 (60 before it was renumbered) https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoach...Vu-2nf2zkC

It was later repainted into Doxford Clipper (something I did find out that 39A went via Durham Road if anyone has a map of that it would be appreciated I would be intrested in the route it went), then Venture then East Durham


Doxford clipper 29/29a/39/39a sequence took over the 135/136/139/140, while the 26/26a/36/36a sequence took over the 126/160/163

The 139/140 circular service was original put on in replace of pte old x14 route between Doxford park moor side to Sunderland via Durham road and replaced service 101 between Sunderland and Grangetown via toward road and extended from Grangetown to Doxford park.


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06 Mar 2023, 6:51 pm #30
(15 Mar 2022, 11:29 am)Ambassador X66 Supershuttle was branded from the early 90s with the Optare Deltas and then the later DAFs - I have in my mind that the Leyland Nationals were in X66 livery too but they may not have been - I couldn't find a pic of one.

I guess there was also Superliner in the early 90s and Expresslink in the late 80s (you could argue they are the 'parents' of what is now X-Lines)

As they are technically owned by Go Ahead - the Low Fell Coaches 'Cross Tyne' service pre-dated most of GNE's efforts

Nah, X66 Supershuttle goes back to the Leyland National days, as the first buses to go on the X66 were Nationals, back then it was just the 66

(12 Aug 2022, 6:38 am)cbma06 Doxford clipper 29/29a/39/39a sequence took over the 135/136/139/140, while the 26/26a/36/36a sequence took over the 126/160/163

The 139/140 circular service was original put on in replace of pte old x14 route between Doxford park moor side to Sunderland via Durham road and replaced service 101 between Sunderland and Grangetown via toward road and extended from Grangetown to Doxford park.


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Edited 06 Mar 2023, 6:53 pm by adavies3774.
adavies3774
06 Mar 2023, 6:51 pm #30

(15 Mar 2022, 11:29 am)Ambassador X66 Supershuttle was branded from the early 90s with the Optare Deltas and then the later DAFs - I have in my mind that the Leyland Nationals were in X66 livery too but they may not have been - I couldn't find a pic of one.

I guess there was also Superliner in the early 90s and Expresslink in the late 80s (you could argue they are the 'parents' of what is now X-Lines)

As they are technically owned by Go Ahead - the Low Fell Coaches 'Cross Tyne' service pre-dated most of GNE's efforts

Nah, X66 Supershuttle goes back to the Leyland National days, as the first buses to go on the X66 were Nationals, back then it was just the 66

(12 Aug 2022, 6:38 am)cbma06 Doxford clipper 29/29a/39/39a sequence took over the 135/136/139/140, while the 26/26a/36/36a sequence took over the 126/160/163

The 139/140 circular service was original put on in replace of pte old x14 route between Doxford park moor side to Sunderland via Durham road and replaced service 101 between Sunderland and Grangetown via toward road and extended from Grangetown to Doxford park.


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