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28 Feb 2022, 9:06 pm #21
(28 Feb 2022, 11:33 am)F114TML You mean this? https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/26730673755
Yes that's the covers I had in mind.
solsburian
28 Feb 2022, 9:06 pm #21

(28 Feb 2022, 11:33 am)F114TML You mean this? https://www.flickr.com/photos/adammalarkey/26730673755
Yes that's the covers I had in mind.

20 Apr 2022, 9:12 pm #22
Has 7445 been withdrawn?
Arriva7446
20 Apr 2022, 9:12 pm #22

Has 7445 been withdrawn?

21 Apr 2022, 5:52 pm #23
(20 Apr 2022, 9:12 pm)Arriva7446 Has 7445 been withdrawn?

Yes it has.

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Cobalt271
21 Apr 2022, 5:52 pm #23

(20 Apr 2022, 9:12 pm)Arriva7446 Has 7445 been withdrawn?

Yes it has.


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21 Apr 2022, 8:02 pm #24
(21 Apr 2022, 5:52 pm)Cobalt271 Yes it has.

That's a shame, although in recent times it seemed to miss a lot of days and was usually just allocated to the 35's. 7446 seems to be the best of those 2 as that is in use daily and sometimes on the express routes.

Do you know any more information about the remaining Volvo buses at Ashington? I'm guessing none of them really have a future and will be withdrawn soon with the new buses coming?
Arriva7446
21 Apr 2022, 8:02 pm #24

(21 Apr 2022, 5:52 pm)Cobalt271 Yes it has.

That's a shame, although in recent times it seemed to miss a lot of days and was usually just allocated to the 35's. 7446 seems to be the best of those 2 as that is in use daily and sometimes on the express routes.

Do you know any more information about the remaining Volvo buses at Ashington? I'm guessing none of them really have a future and will be withdrawn soon with the new buses coming?

21 Apr 2022, 8:03 pm #25
Ironically 7446 is a decent motor for its age.

(21 Apr 2022, 5:52 pm)Cobalt271 Yes it has.

(21 Apr 2022, 8:02 pm)Arriva7446 That's a shame, although in recent times it seemed to miss a lot of days and was usually just allocated to the 35's. 7446 seems to be the best of those 2 as that is in use daily and sometimes on the express routes.

Do you know any more information about the remaining Volvo buses at Ashington? I'm guessing none of them really have a future and will be withdrawn soon with the new buses coming?
7411 and 7486 are still in daily use but 7484 seems to have been withdrawn.
Edited 21 Apr 2022, 8:05 pm by Driver9***.
Driver9***
21 Apr 2022, 8:03 pm #25

Ironically 7446 is a decent motor for its age.


(21 Apr 2022, 5:52 pm)Cobalt271 Yes it has.

(21 Apr 2022, 8:02 pm)Arriva7446 That's a shame, although in recent times it seemed to miss a lot of days and was usually just allocated to the 35's. 7446 seems to be the best of those 2 as that is in use daily and sometimes on the express routes.

Do you know any more information about the remaining Volvo buses at Ashington? I'm guessing none of them really have a future and will be withdrawn soon with the new buses coming?
7411 and 7486 are still in daily use but 7484 seems to have been withdrawn.

21 Apr 2022, 9:37 pm #26
(21 Apr 2022, 8:02 pm)Arriva7446 Do you know any more information about the remaining Volvo buses at Ashington? I'm guessing none of them really have a future and will be withdrawn soon with the new buses coming?

The Volvos are all on borrowed time, Ashington's will be gone by August when they're displaced by new vehicles. 7445 has sustained defects deemed uneconomical to repair I believe and so has been replaced by Centro 1923.

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Cobalt271
21 Apr 2022, 9:37 pm #26

(21 Apr 2022, 8:02 pm)Arriva7446 Do you know any more information about the remaining Volvo buses at Ashington? I'm guessing none of them really have a future and will be withdrawn soon with the new buses coming?

The Volvos are all on borrowed time, Ashington's will be gone by August when they're displaced by new vehicles. 7445 has sustained defects deemed uneconomical to repair I believe and so has been replaced by Centro 1923.


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19 May 2022, 6:28 pm #27
Looks like 7446 has gone now too.
Arriva7446
19 May 2022, 6:28 pm #27

Looks like 7446 has gone now too.

20 May 2022, 12:43 am #28
(19 May 2022, 6:28 pm)Arriva7446 Looks like 7446 has gone now too.
Yes however 7484 has come back from the dead to replace it.
Driver9***
20 May 2022, 12:43 am #28

(19 May 2022, 6:28 pm)Arriva7446 Looks like 7446 has gone now too.
Yes however 7484 has come back from the dead to replace it.

mb134



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20 May 2022, 3:45 am #29
(20 May 2022, 12:43 am)Driver9*** Yes however 7484 has come back from the dead to replace it.

7484 was back before 7446 failed I believe (or was at least planned to be coming back) and was just waiting on parts hence it's lengthy spell VOR - so the plan was likely to keep all of them going bar 7445.
mb134
20 May 2022, 3:45 am #29

(20 May 2022, 12:43 am)Driver9*** Yes however 7484 has come back from the dead to replace it.

7484 was back before 7446 failed I believe (or was at least planned to be coming back) and was just waiting on parts hence it's lengthy spell VOR - so the plan was likely to keep all of them going bar 7445.

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25 Jul 2022, 7:36 pm #30
(28 Feb 2022, 12:06 am)solsburian IIRC it was 4079 T83AUA that had the Arrvia interior (and possibly tinted windows). The others had what seemed to me, a generic dealer stock interior (and didn't have the British Bus Smarties seat covers from new). An extra factoid would be that 4079 did the final 17:15 X36 journey from Newcastle.
Ikarus4079
25 Jul 2022, 7:36 pm #30

(28 Feb 2022, 12:06 am)solsburian IIRC it was 4079 T83AUA that had the Arrvia interior (and possibly tinted windows). The others had what seemed to me, a generic dealer stock interior (and didn't have the British Bus Smarties seat covers from new). An extra factoid would be that 4079 did the final 17:15 X36 journey from Newcastle.

Ryland



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31 Jul 2022, 7:09 pm #31
Seen a post on flickr of 4719 looking in a right state. Has this formally been withdrawn or awaiting repair
Ryland
31 Jul 2022, 7:09 pm #31

Seen a post on flickr of 4719 looking in a right state. Has this formally been withdrawn or awaiting repair

peter



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31 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm #32
(31 Jul 2022, 7:09 pm)Ryland Seen a post on flickr of 4719 looking in a right state. Has this formally been withdrawn or awaiting repair

There's a lot of debate on bustimes about it, people keeping withdrawing it and adding it back, someone claimed the engineering budget had been exceeded and it wouldn't be coming back into service, no idea if that's correct or not...do you have a link to the photo in question?
peter
31 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm #32

(31 Jul 2022, 7:09 pm)Ryland Seen a post on flickr of 4719 looking in a right state. Has this formally been withdrawn or awaiting repair

There's a lot of debate on bustimes about it, people keeping withdrawing it and adding it back, someone claimed the engineering budget had been exceeded and it wouldn't be coming back into service, no idea if that's correct or not...do you have a link to the photo in question?

Ryland



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31 Jul 2022, 7:53 pm #33
(31 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm)peter There's a lot of debate on bustimes about it, people keeping withdrawing it and adding it back, someone claimed the engineering budget had been exceeded and it wouldn't be coming back into service, no idea if that's correct or not...do you have a link to the photo in question?
https://flic.kr/p/2nByVdn
Ryland
31 Jul 2022, 7:53 pm #33

(31 Jul 2022, 7:16 pm)peter There's a lot of debate on bustimes about it, people keeping withdrawing it and adding it back, someone claimed the engineering budget had been exceeded and it wouldn't be coming back into service, no idea if that's correct or not...do you have a link to the photo in question?
https://flic.kr/p/2nByVdn

mb134



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31 Jul 2022, 8:16 pm #34
(31 Jul 2022, 7:53 pm)Ryland https://flic.kr/p/2nByVdn

Given that it clearly states that no parts are to be removed from the vehicle, and that it must be inspected prior to return to service, I think you could safely assume that they're at least planning on bringing it back.
mb134
31 Jul 2022, 8:16 pm #34

(31 Jul 2022, 7:53 pm)Ryland https://flic.kr/p/2nByVdn

Given that it clearly states that no parts are to be removed from the vehicle, and that it must be inspected prior to return to service, I think you could safely assume that they're at least planning on bringing it back.

31 Jul 2022, 8:19 pm #35
I once saw a Mk2 National looking quite withdrawn while operating the 777 service through Grindon and Pennywell on Chester Road.
Clifton Hignett III
31 Jul 2022, 8:19 pm #35

I once saw a Mk2 National looking quite withdrawn while operating the 777 service through Grindon and Pennywell on Chester Road.

Jimmi



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31 Jul 2022, 9:21 pm #36
(31 Jul 2022, 8:16 pm)mb134 Given that it clearly states that no parts are to be removed from the vehicle, and that it must be inspected prior to return to service, I think you could safely assume that they're at least planning on bringing it back.
The alleged intention with 4719 is to put it back on the road but requires a large list of parts.

4713 has suffered engine failure but believe that's going to be repaired too.
Jimmi
31 Jul 2022, 9:21 pm #36

(31 Jul 2022, 8:16 pm)mb134 Given that it clearly states that no parts are to be removed from the vehicle, and that it must be inspected prior to return to service, I think you could safely assume that they're at least planning on bringing it back.
The alleged intention with 4719 is to put it back on the road but requires a large list of parts.

4713 has suffered engine failure but believe that's going to be repaired too.

01 Aug 2022, 10:35 pm #37
A number of Optare Vectas at Arriva North East were withdrawn for years before many had their MAN engines replaced with Cummins Units and re-entered service.

The case with 4719 is that it has been used as a Christmas Tree, instead of having say 5 buses off with 5 different faults. They take all the required functioning bits of one of the vehicles (probably the one that has the longest wait time for a part), and distribute them amongst the other 4 vehicles, so instead of 5 buses off, you only have one bus off the road longer, whilst you have 4 available for use.

It's common practise with a lot of operators, buses, trains, metros, trams, haulage industry. They all do it.

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Rapidsnap
01 Aug 2022, 10:35 pm #37

A number of Optare Vectas at Arriva North East were withdrawn for years before many had their MAN engines replaced with Cummins Units and re-entered service.

The case with 4719 is that it has been used as a Christmas Tree, instead of having say 5 buses off with 5 different faults. They take all the required functioning bits of one of the vehicles (probably the one that has the longest wait time for a part), and distribute them amongst the other 4 vehicles, so instead of 5 buses off, you only have one bus off the road longer, whilst you have 4 available for use.

It's common practise with a lot of operators, buses, trains, metros, trams, haulage industry. They all do it.


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27 Nov 2022, 1:53 pm #38
(01 Aug 2022, 10:35 pm)Rapidsnap A number of Optare Vectas at Arriva North East were withdrawn for years before many had their MAN engines replaced with Cummins Units and re-entered service.
The case with 4719 is that it has been used as a Christmas Tree, instead of having say 5 buses off with 5 different faults. They take all the required functioning bits of one of the vehicles (probably the one that has the longest wait time for a part), and distribute them amongst the other 4 vehicles, so instead of 5 buses off, you only have one bus off the road longer, whilst you have 4 available for use.
It's common practise with a lot of operators, buses, trains, metros, trams, haulage industry. They all do it.
So has it officially been withdrawn 
Ryland
27 Nov 2022, 1:53 pm #38

(01 Aug 2022, 10:35 pm)Rapidsnap A number of Optare Vectas at Arriva North East were withdrawn for years before many had their MAN engines replaced with Cummins Units and re-entered service.
The case with 4719 is that it has been used as a Christmas Tree, instead of having say 5 buses off with 5 different faults. They take all the required functioning bits of one of the vehicles (probably the one that has the longest wait time for a part), and distribute them amongst the other 4 vehicles, so instead of 5 buses off, you only have one bus off the road longer, whilst you have 4 available for use.
It's common practise with a lot of operators, buses, trains, metros, trams, haulage industry. They all do it.
So has it officially been withdrawn 

27 Nov 2022, 2:48 pm #39
Depends on whether the type is regarded as having a future within the overall fleet.  If it's genuinely waiting parts, then when those parts arrive it'll be fixed and put back into service.  If, however, the type is regarded as not having a long-term future then any vehicles off the road will have parts removed until they've run out of bit to swap from them and the remains then scrapped.
Ianthegoon
27 Nov 2022, 2:48 pm #39

Depends on whether the type is regarded as having a future within the overall fleet.  If it's genuinely waiting parts, then when those parts arrive it'll be fixed and put back into service.  If, however, the type is regarded as not having a long-term future then any vehicles off the road will have parts removed until they've run out of bit to swap from them and the remains then scrapped.

27 Nov 2022, 6:23 pm #40
(27 Nov 2022, 2:48 pm)Ianthegoon Depends on whether the type is regarded as having a future within the overall fleet.  If it's genuinely waiting parts, then when those parts arrive it'll be fixed and put back into service.  If, however, the type is regarded as not having a long-term future then any vehicles off the road will have parts removed until they've run out of bit to swap from them and the remains then scrapped.
i am not surprised that a few temsa's are waiting parts given they are rare in the bus industry in uk and parts are hard to find for them given arriva are the only operators who own any
Phillippatt
27 Nov 2022, 6:23 pm #40

(27 Nov 2022, 2:48 pm)Ianthegoon Depends on whether the type is regarded as having a future within the overall fleet.  If it's genuinely waiting parts, then when those parts arrive it'll be fixed and put back into service.  If, however, the type is regarded as not having a long-term future then any vehicles off the road will have parts removed until they've run out of bit to swap from them and the remains then scrapped.
i am not surprised that a few temsa's are waiting parts given they are rare in the bus industry in uk and parts are hard to find for them given arriva are the only operators who own any

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