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Northumberland County Council Tenders - April 2022

Northumberland County Council Tenders - April 2022

 
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peter



993
28 Feb 2022, 1:45 am #1
Dan has confirmed on flickr here that most of the Northumberland County Council contracts (at least those with GNE) expire 3rd April. This was in direct relation to the 434/448 but likely also includes the Hexham locals. As far as other operators, there'll presumably be the Wooler services, X14 Morpeth to Thropton, 418, and 58 coming up for renewal, along with the many one day a week/one journey a day rural services.
peter
28 Feb 2022, 1:45 am #1

Dan has confirmed on flickr here that most of the Northumberland County Council contracts (at least those with GNE) expire 3rd April. This was in direct relation to the 434/448 but likely also includes the Hexham locals. As far as other operators, there'll presumably be the Wooler services, X14 Morpeth to Thropton, 418, and 58 coming up for renewal, along with the many one day a week/one journey a day rural services.

peter



993
01 Mar 2022, 3:08 pm #2
Arriva have cancelled service 58 on VOSA which may indicate the service will pass to another operator. There will also be changes to the X15/X18 from 10th April likely relating to the contract changes.
peter
01 Mar 2022, 3:08 pm #2

Arriva have cancelled service 58 on VOSA which may indicate the service will pass to another operator. There will also be changes to the X15/X18 from 10th April likely relating to the contract changes.

Andreos1



14,202
01 Mar 2022, 3:21 pm #3
(01 Mar 2022, 3:08 pm)peter Arriva have cancelled service 58 on VOSA which may indicate the service will pass to another operator. There will also be changes to the X15/X18 from 10th April likely relating to the contract changes. 
Isn't it around then they traditionally change to the summer timetables?

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
01 Mar 2022, 3:21 pm #3

(01 Mar 2022, 3:08 pm)peter Arriva have cancelled service 58 on VOSA which may indicate the service will pass to another operator. There will also be changes to the X15/X18 from 10th April likely relating to the contract changes. 
Isn't it around then they traditionally change to the summer timetables?


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

peter



993
01 Mar 2022, 3:33 pm #4
(01 Mar 2022, 3:21 pm)Andreos1 Isn't it around then they traditionally change to the summer timetables?

It is indeed - however in previous years the details on VOSA for the X18 have always said 'Revised timetable - daily up to every 2 hours' for the summer timetable whereas this time it says 'Revised timetable and route' which makes me think it could be a contract related change as well. Could easily just be the summer timetables tho that they've done to coincide with contract changes such as the 58 which is (potentially) withdrawn 10th April.

Update: The X14 will also be changing from the same date - again possibly related to the current contracted section between Morpeth and Thropton
peter
01 Mar 2022, 3:33 pm #4

(01 Mar 2022, 3:21 pm)Andreos1 Isn't it around then they traditionally change to the summer timetables?

It is indeed - however in previous years the details on VOSA for the X18 have always said 'Revised timetable - daily up to every 2 hours' for the summer timetable whereas this time it says 'Revised timetable and route' which makes me think it could be a contract related change as well. Could easily just be the summer timetables tho that they've done to coincide with contract changes such as the 58 which is (potentially) withdrawn 10th April.

Update: The X14 will also be changing from the same date - again possibly related to the current contracted section between Morpeth and Thropton

peter



993
26 Mar 2022, 9:05 pm #5
The new X14/15/18 timetables now available on Bustimes/Arriva's website. From what I could make out Monday-Friday changes are:

X14:
06:40 from Morpeth to Thropton will run 5 minutes later throughout
07:34 from Thropton to Newcastle will run 5 minutes later throughout
13:00 from Morpeth to Thropton withdrawn (12:23 NCL to Morpeth still runs)
13:54 from Thropton to Morpeth withdrawn (14:43 from Morpeth to NCL still runs)
15:28 from Newcastle to Thropton will run 5 minutes earlier throughout
17:09 from Thropton to Newcastle will run 5 minutes earlier to Morpeth

X15:
07:43 will now depart 10 minutes later from Alnwick and 5 minutes later from Morpeth

X18:
15:13 from Newcastle will run 5 minutes earlier

58:
Unless another operator's got the contract and yet to register on VOSA, seemingly withdrawn without replacement.
peter
26 Mar 2022, 9:05 pm #5

The new X14/15/18 timetables now available on Bustimes/Arriva's website. From what I could make out Monday-Friday changes are:

X14:
06:40 from Morpeth to Thropton will run 5 minutes later throughout
07:34 from Thropton to Newcastle will run 5 minutes later throughout
13:00 from Morpeth to Thropton withdrawn (12:23 NCL to Morpeth still runs)
13:54 from Thropton to Morpeth withdrawn (14:43 from Morpeth to NCL still runs)
15:28 from Newcastle to Thropton will run 5 minutes earlier throughout
17:09 from Thropton to Newcastle will run 5 minutes earlier to Morpeth

X15:
07:43 will now depart 10 minutes later from Alnwick and 5 minutes later from Morpeth

X18:
15:13 from Newcastle will run 5 minutes earlier

58:
Unless another operator's got the contract and yet to register on VOSA, seemingly withdrawn without replacement.

Dan

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18,114
26 Mar 2022, 9:09 pm #6
(26 Mar 2022, 9:05 pm)peter 58:
Unless another operator's got the contract and yet to register on VOSA, seemingly withdrawn without replacement.

Northumberland County Council are currently tendering this service, as well as Rural Link’s town services in Morpeth.

From memory the 58 starts on 10 April (or thereabouts) with contract award next week, and the Morpeth services towards the end of April.

All require contactless-enabled ticket machines. One of the Morpeth services required a bus with 44 seats, which likely rules Rural Link out of providing that one - imagine Arriva will be keen to win it.


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Dan
26 Mar 2022, 9:09 pm #6

(26 Mar 2022, 9:05 pm)peter 58:
Unless another operator's got the contract and yet to register on VOSA, seemingly withdrawn without replacement.

Northumberland County Council are currently tendering this service, as well as Rural Link’s town services in Morpeth.

From memory the 58 starts on 10 April (or thereabouts) with contract award next week, and the Morpeth services towards the end of April.

All require contactless-enabled ticket machines. One of the Morpeth services required a bus with 44 seats, which likely rules Rural Link out of providing that one - imagine Arriva will be keen to win it.


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peter



993
26 Mar 2022, 9:47 pm #7
(26 Mar 2022, 9:09 pm)Dan Northumberland County Council are currently tendering this service, as well as Rural Link’s town services in Morpeth.

From memory the 58 starts on 10 April (or thereabouts) with contract award next week, and the Morpeth services towards the end of April.

All require contactless-enabled ticket machines. One of the Morpeth services required a bus with 44 seats, which likely rules Rural Link out of providing that one - imagine Arriva will be keen to win it.


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Ah okay, thanks for the info Dan...thought it would have been awarded further in advance than this tbh!
peter
26 Mar 2022, 9:47 pm #7

(26 Mar 2022, 9:09 pm)Dan Northumberland County Council are currently tendering this service, as well as Rural Link’s town services in Morpeth.

From memory the 58 starts on 10 April (or thereabouts) with contract award next week, and the Morpeth services towards the end of April.

All require contactless-enabled ticket machines. One of the Morpeth services required a bus with 44 seats, which likely rules Rural Link out of providing that one - imagine Arriva will be keen to win it.


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Ah okay, thanks for the info Dan...thought it would have been awarded further in advance than this tbh!

Unber43



3,549
26 Mar 2022, 9:50 pm #8
(26 Mar 2022, 9:09 pm)Dan Northumberland County Council are currently tendering this service, as well as Rural Link’s town services in Morpeth.

From memory the 58 starts on 10 April (or thereabouts) with contract award next week, and the Morpeth services towards the end of April.

All require contactless-enabled ticket machines. One of the Morpeth services required a bus with 44 seats, which likely rules Rural Link out of providing that one - imagine Arriva will be keen to win it.


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I do wonder which companies want to run this. 

Arriva, GNE. Wonder if GCT would like a daily service.
Unber43
26 Mar 2022, 9:50 pm #8

(26 Mar 2022, 9:09 pm)Dan Northumberland County Council are currently tendering this service, as well as Rural Link’s town services in Morpeth.

From memory the 58 starts on 10 April (or thereabouts) with contract award next week, and the Morpeth services towards the end of April.

All require contactless-enabled ticket machines. One of the Morpeth services required a bus with 44 seats, which likely rules Rural Link out of providing that one - imagine Arriva will be keen to win it.


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I do wonder which companies want to run this. 

Arriva, GNE. Wonder if GCT would like a daily service.

Jimmi



10,969
26 Mar 2022, 10:09 pm #9
(26 Mar 2022, 9:09 pm)Dan Northumberland County Council are currently tendering this service, as well as Rural Link’s town services in Morpeth.

From memory the 58 starts on 10 April (or thereabouts) with contract award next week, and the Morpeth services towards the end of April.

All require contactless-enabled ticket machines. One of the Morpeth services required a bus with 44 seats, which likely rules Rural Link out of providing that one - imagine Arriva will be keen to win it.


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I would assume the 44 seater contract is the Stannington service, remember seeing it at school finishing time one afternoon a while back and it was a 24 seater MPD with kids standing much of the way down the bus.

Would be great if the 44 could be extended again but don't know how it would work considering the route has changed a bit at that end since PCL Travel won it.
Jimmi
26 Mar 2022, 10:09 pm #9

(26 Mar 2022, 9:09 pm)Dan Northumberland County Council are currently tendering this service, as well as Rural Link’s town services in Morpeth.

From memory the 58 starts on 10 April (or thereabouts) with contract award next week, and the Morpeth services towards the end of April.

All require contactless-enabled ticket machines. One of the Morpeth services required a bus with 44 seats, which likely rules Rural Link out of providing that one - imagine Arriva will be keen to win it.


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I would assume the 44 seater contract is the Stannington service, remember seeing it at school finishing time one afternoon a while back and it was a 24 seater MPD with kids standing much of the way down the bus.

Would be great if the 44 could be extended again but don't know how it would work considering the route has changed a bit at that end since PCL Travel won it.

busmanT



932
26 Mar 2022, 11:29 pm #10
(26 Mar 2022, 9:05 pm)peter The new X14/15/18 timetables now available on Bustimes/Arriva's website. From what I could make out Monday-Friday changes are:

X14:
06:40 from Morpeth to Thropton will run 5 minutes later throughout
07:34 from Thropton to Newcastle will run 5 minutes later throughout
13:00 from Morpeth to Thropton withdrawn (12:23 NCL to Morpeth still runs)
13:54 from Thropton to Morpeth withdrawn (14:43 from Morpeth to NCL still runs)
17:09 from Thropton to Newcastle will run 5 minutes earlier to Morpeth

X15:
07:43 will now depart 10 minutes later from Alnwick and 5 minutes later from Morpeth

X18:
15:13 from Newcastle will run 5 minutes earlier

58:
Unless another operator's got the contract and yet to register on VOSA, seemingly withdrawn without replacement.

So no summer frequency uplift on X18 this year?
busmanT
26 Mar 2022, 11:29 pm #10

(26 Mar 2022, 9:05 pm)peter The new X14/15/18 timetables now available on Bustimes/Arriva's website. From what I could make out Monday-Friday changes are:

X14:
06:40 from Morpeth to Thropton will run 5 minutes later throughout
07:34 from Thropton to Newcastle will run 5 minutes later throughout
13:00 from Morpeth to Thropton withdrawn (12:23 NCL to Morpeth still runs)
13:54 from Thropton to Morpeth withdrawn (14:43 from Morpeth to NCL still runs)
17:09 from Thropton to Newcastle will run 5 minutes earlier to Morpeth

X15:
07:43 will now depart 10 minutes later from Alnwick and 5 minutes later from Morpeth

X18:
15:13 from Newcastle will run 5 minutes earlier

58:
Unless another operator's got the contract and yet to register on VOSA, seemingly withdrawn without replacement.

So no summer frequency uplift on X18 this year?

peter



993
27 Mar 2022, 12:19 am #11
(26 Mar 2022, 11:29 pm)busmanT So no summer frequency uplift on X18 this year?

Unless it's coming later, it doesn't look like it! My only thought is that, if I'm correct in my logic, the 418 is coming up for tender so perhaps they're waiting to see the result of that as then that could either replace or be merged into the extra journeys
peter
27 Mar 2022, 12:19 am #11

(26 Mar 2022, 11:29 pm)busmanT So no summer frequency uplift on X18 this year?

Unless it's coming later, it doesn't look like it! My only thought is that, if I'm correct in my logic, the 418 is coming up for tender so perhaps they're waiting to see the result of that as then that could either replace or be merged into the extra journeys

Storx



4,564
27 Mar 2022, 9:57 am #12
Just looking at the X14 timetable, I have a feeling Arriva have already won something in Morpeth as the timetable just doesn't work.

The 10:55 service into Morpeth doesn't have a return journey until 12:43 and the 12:55 service into Morpeth doesn't have a return journey until 14:43 and the 14:55 journey doesn't have a return journey until 16:48

Plenty time to run something inbetween ie. the S1 which conveniently runs very close to those times and the very early run towards Chantry could run empty to Longframlington and run that board down.
Storx
27 Mar 2022, 9:57 am #12

Just looking at the X14 timetable, I have a feeling Arriva have already won something in Morpeth as the timetable just doesn't work.

The 10:55 service into Morpeth doesn't have a return journey until 12:43 and the 12:55 service into Morpeth doesn't have a return journey until 14:43 and the 14:55 journey doesn't have a return journey until 16:48

Plenty time to run something inbetween ie. the S1 which conveniently runs very close to those times and the very early run towards Chantry could run empty to Longframlington and run that board down.

busmanT



932
27 Mar 2022, 12:15 pm #13
(27 Mar 2022, 9:57 am)Storx Just looking at the X14 timetable, I have a feeling Arriva have already won something in Morpeth as the timetable just doesn't work.

The 10:55 service into Morpeth doesn't have a return journey until 12:43 and the 12:55 service into Morpeth doesn't have a return journey until 14:43 and the 14:55 journey doesn't have a return journey until 16:48

Plenty time to run something inbetween ie. the S1 which conveniently runs very close to those times and the very early run towards Chantry could run empty to Longframlington and run that board down.
Or perhaps these gaps assist with driver mealbreaks
busmanT
27 Mar 2022, 12:15 pm #13

(27 Mar 2022, 9:57 am)Storx Just looking at the X14 timetable, I have a feeling Arriva have already won something in Morpeth as the timetable just doesn't work.

The 10:55 service into Morpeth doesn't have a return journey until 12:43 and the 12:55 service into Morpeth doesn't have a return journey until 14:43 and the 14:55 journey doesn't have a return journey until 16:48

Plenty time to run something inbetween ie. the S1 which conveniently runs very close to those times and the very early run towards Chantry could run empty to Longframlington and run that board down.
Or perhaps these gaps assist with driver mealbreaks

27 Mar 2022, 1:07 pm #14
Yeah, those gaps were already a thing, drivers have mealbreaks or head off onto another route.
omnicity4659
27 Mar 2022, 1:07 pm #14

Yeah, those gaps were already a thing, drivers have mealbreaks or head off onto another route.

Storx



4,564
27 Mar 2022, 2:31 pm #15
(27 Mar 2022, 12:15 pm)busmanT Or perhaps these gaps assist with driver mealbreaks

(27 Mar 2022, 1:07 pm)omnicity4659 Yeah, those gaps were already a thing, drivers have mealbreaks or head off onto another route.

I see it now, my mistake always thought Ashington done driver changeovers at Morpeth so wouldn't need them. Learnt something new today.
Storx
27 Mar 2022, 2:31 pm #15

(27 Mar 2022, 12:15 pm)busmanT Or perhaps these gaps assist with driver mealbreaks

(27 Mar 2022, 1:07 pm)omnicity4659 Yeah, those gaps were already a thing, drivers have mealbreaks or head off onto another route.

I see it now, my mistake always thought Ashington done driver changeovers at Morpeth so wouldn't need them. Learnt something new today.

peter



993
01 Apr 2022, 10:25 pm #16
Interesting development with the X18/418...
-Boulmer will no longer be served by X18 but will now be served by the 418
-The summer extra X18's will now be operated by Travelsure
-418 will have a revised timetable running a regular 2 hour frequency
peter
01 Apr 2022, 10:25 pm #16

Interesting development with the X18/418...
-Boulmer will no longer be served by X18 but will now be served by the 418
-The summer extra X18's will now be operated by Travelsure
-418 will have a revised timetable running a regular 2 hour frequency

03 Apr 2022, 7:03 pm #17
(01 Apr 2022, 10:25 pm)peter Interesting development with the X18/418...
-Boulmer will no longer be served by X18 but will now be served by the 418
-The summer extra X18's will now be operated by Travelsure
-418 will have a revised timetable running a regular 2 hour frequency

What are the summer extra X18s? I'm not familiar with many of Arriva's services. How will it be different with Travelsure operating the extras?
OrangeArrow49
03 Apr 2022, 7:03 pm #17

(01 Apr 2022, 10:25 pm)peter Interesting development with the X18/418...
-Boulmer will no longer be served by X18 but will now be served by the 418
-The summer extra X18's will now be operated by Travelsure
-418 will have a revised timetable running a regular 2 hour frequency

What are the summer extra X18s? I'm not familiar with many of Arriva's services. How will it be different with Travelsure operating the extras?

peter



993
03 Apr 2022, 9:38 pm #18
(03 Apr 2022, 7:03 pm)OrangeArrow49 What are the summer extra X18s? I'm not familiar with many of Arriva's services. How will it be different with Travelsure operating the extras?

During summer, the frequency of the X18 north of Alnwick through to Berwick increases from every four hours to every two hours. Usually operated by Arriva as a through service, now operated by Travelsure so a. will no longer be a through service to Newcastle and b. will no longer operate with a double decker.
peter
03 Apr 2022, 9:38 pm #18

(03 Apr 2022, 7:03 pm)OrangeArrow49 What are the summer extra X18s? I'm not familiar with many of Arriva's services. How will it be different with Travelsure operating the extras?

During summer, the frequency of the X18 north of Alnwick through to Berwick increases from every four hours to every two hours. Usually operated by Arriva as a through service, now operated by Travelsure so a. will no longer be a through service to Newcastle and b. will no longer operate with a double decker.

peter



993
04 Apr 2022, 11:00 am #19
Rural Link's T1A/T1C and S1 cancelled on VOSA presumably pending re-award
peter
04 Apr 2022, 11:00 am #19

Rural Link's T1A/T1C and S1 cancelled on VOSA presumably pending re-award

04 Apr 2022, 11:27 am #20
(03 Apr 2022, 9:38 pm)peter During summer, the frequency of the X18 north of Alnwick through to Berwick increases from every four hours to every two hours. Usually operated by Arriva as a through service, now operated by Travelsure so a. will no longer be a through service to Newcastle and b. will no longer operate with a double decker.

Thanks, Peter. It's a shame it won't be a through service to Newcastle as it would be good to see what Travelsure is like, and be something different to see from an enthusiast point of view.
OrangeArrow49
04 Apr 2022, 11:27 am #20

(03 Apr 2022, 9:38 pm)peter During summer, the frequency of the X18 north of Alnwick through to Berwick increases from every four hours to every two hours. Usually operated by Arriva as a through service, now operated by Travelsure so a. will no longer be a through service to Newcastle and b. will no longer operate with a double decker.

Thanks, Peter. It's a shame it won't be a through service to Newcastle as it would be good to see what Travelsure is like, and be something different to see from an enthusiast point of view.

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